User Panel
Posted: 4/29/2005 5:42:54 PM EDT
Alrighty folks - we're assuredly on the assault now.
We all need to start with the letters, the calls, the visits and more, and get our elected officials backing Representative Ron Paul of Texas, and his bill, H.R.1703. Here's the link: thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1703: Here's the text:
Time to get to work!! (Thanks to Buzz407 for the heads-up on this!) (Mods: Any way to get this pinned for a couple of days?) |
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It'll get killed off most assuredly, but it may the light at the end of the tunnel to motivate people to contact their reps!
Tack-a-roo |
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Writing the Congresscritters, but, sadly, it'll never see the light of day, and if it did, Bush wouldn't sign it.
SG |
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You can watch status here: thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR01703:@@@X Currently, it's still in two committees. |
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Would this free up importation of Russian and Chinese arms or is that
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I think you are correct |
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Already WAS, in a different thread, for most of last week. Unfortunately, it seems nobody READS the tacked threads. |
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We were discussing this earlier. This doesn't appear to repeal any Executive Orders - if there are EO's out there banning imports from Russia and China, then this will have nothing to do with it. Now, on the other hand, this WILL allow the import of rifles such as the SIG 55x, HK9x and other HK stuff (if anyone still builds them), FN stuff, and a whole lot more (unless that's banned by an EO I don't know about?). Someone who knows more should chime in with the Executive Order information. |
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i like that |
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Seny mail(both Kinds) but my rep is a DEM! DAMN!
attack! Attack! ATTACK! |
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Really? How do you know whether he would or would not sign it? |
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weird...
Wonder when this was introduced or written up. Give me a list on Who I must call/wright to and I will do it. My letter to the supreme court was sent and I'm tired of waiting for a reply... I think this may be it, Oh well. Give me a list on who to wright letters to from Illinois. Maybe this will Impeach Mayor (jackass) Daily. |
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Can we get a summary? I recognise that is removes the "sporting purposes" crap, but didn't understand much else.
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I just emaild my congressman, and the snail mail will be on the way tommorow. Come on guys, lets start building some preasure.
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I swear to god I will bump this every day for the next year if I have to....
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We'll see how far it gets, but it would benefit those overseas firearms makers.
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tagged, but chances are no one will take part in it. I'll go ahead and write the critters. I always do......
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That would be a first - ok, a second time that something taken away was given back. Yes, those are the clauses that keep imports out. However, other bans need only a signature. Anything Norinco is currently banned as well as about any "parts" from Russia. With our luck, they'd pass this thing then Bush would tell every country wanting to import that if they want any more Aid, they won't do it....seems to be how it works.....
But, you never know. I was really surprised they let the '94 AWB expire. Now, what exactly was it in '86 that halted new transferable MG production :) |
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Essentially. It removes the "Sporting Purposes" Clause. Currently, the way this law is interpreted is that the BATFE does not allow assembly if the rifle is not deemed "importable". We get around this by putting enough US-made parts into the rifle to remove it from the purview of 922(r) or 925(d)(3) - with enough US-made parts in it, it's a domestic-made rifle, not a foriegn-made rifle. These laws do not apply to US-made rifles or shotguns. The rifle is not importable because the BATFE does not feel that it meets the Sporting Purposes Clause - i.e. the rifle or shotgun is "not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes." The Sporting Purposes clause directly lies in 18 USC 925(d)(3). By removing that particular clause from all of these sections of US Code, the BATFE has no backing to ban the import of semiautomatic rifles - the new law would read that the Attorney General SHALL (love that word, shall) authorize firearms or ammunition for importation that is not one of the following: Short Barrel Shotguns (or shotguns under 26") Short Barrel Rifles (or rifles under 26") AOW's Machineguns Silencers Destructive Devices Essentially, if it's under the purview of the NFA, it's still not importable (unless you're an SOT). 922(r) would still prohibit assembly of a semiautomatic rifle or semiautomatic shotgun that is not importable under 925(d)(3). Since the only things that are not importable are NFA devices, you would be allowed to assemble almost anything you wanted, provided it was semiautomatic. Now, it's worth noting that this bill also changes the definition of Destructive Device. Specifically, this:
Changes to this:
I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not a politician - I can't claim to provide fully accurate interpretations of the law, but this appears that it would remove certain shotguns from the purview of the NFA, no longer classifying them as Destructive Devices. HELLO STRIKER, STREET SWEEPER AND USAS-12! Essentially, the CURRENT law says that the Secretary is the ruling body on which shotguns are not destructive devices. Under this law, at any point in time, the Secretary can say that virtually any semiauto shotgun or shotgun shell imported is not suitable for sporting purposes, and make it a Destructive Device. The bill removes this ability, and in doing so, I would imagine removes any semiautomatic shotgun previously declared a Destructive Device from that classification - the new law would be very clear - "EXCEPT A SHOTGUN OR SHOTGUN SHELL". This also appears to be backed up in the modification of 18 USC 921(a)(4) |
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for the love of happyness! we'd get the striker and USAS-12 again????? *cries tears of utter joy*
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Heck this goes beyond that! We could get 8 gauges and even larger "shotguns" back, couldn't we?
hmmmmm |
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It sure seems so.
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