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Posted: 6/15/2009 10:54:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 10:56:24 AM EST by marksman121]
http://www.kcra.com/news/19758319/detail.html

More Concealed Weapons Permits Could Be Issued
Sacramento County Sheriff Considers Move Amid Budget Cuts

SACRAMENTO, Calif. –– Faced with the potential loss of 300 deputies due to budget cuts, the Sacramento County sheriff may consider issuing more concealed weapons permits.

Sacramento County Sheriff John McGinness said at a public budget workshop in May that if the cuts happen, people would wait "long, long periods of time for the most basic public safety services, specifically uniformed officers in the field."

Spokesman Sgt. Tim Curran called the move a worst-case scenario, depending on how the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors allocates money in its budget.

"With the anticipated decrement in patrol staffing, and the resultant potential for inadequate patrol officer staffing, I will have to reconsider the criteria for issuance of CCWs [concealed weapons permits]. Nothing is etched in stone, but as circumstances change, we need to address public safety in an environment with too few patrol officer positions to meet traditional expectations," McGinness said in a statement.

The current criteria for permit applications is as follows: one-year residency in Sacramento County, U.S. citizenship, at least 21 years of age, no criminal history, and successful completion of a handgun training class.

Permit holders must complete a refresher course every other year upon renewal from a department-approved training facility and/or instructor, according to the department's Web site.

The Sacramento County Sheriff's Department could lose 370 of its employees, including 300 deputies, because of severe county budget cuts.




With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
Choice Votes Percentage of 330 Votes
Yes. 256 78%
No. 74 22%



Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:09:56 AM EST
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Percentage of 392 Votes
Yes. 301 77%
No. 91 23%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:10:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:14:17 AM EST
So is the issuing of CCW permits a threat to get more money?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:19:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
So is the issuing of CCW permits a threat to get more money?


that *seems* to be the case they are making...

"hurry up and give us more money, or we'll be forced to let people exercise their rights!"


Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:20:13 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:24:32 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:25:45 AM EST
Will said weapons be able to be carried with live ammo?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:27:10 AM EST
Its California, they'll take away your CCW as fast as you got it.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:27:15 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:40:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 11:47:27 AM EST by usp4u]
Am I the only one who sees the tremendous irony in this ? This sends a hugely positive message for CCW.
If we cant provide enough uniformed "secruity", the people must defend themselves. So what is considered "enough" ? How do you put a number on the amount of officers needed to ensure saftey.
That's a big catch-22 in our favor.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:42:07 AM EST
The current criteria for permit applications is as follows: one-year residency in Sacramento County, U.S. citizenship, at least 21 years of age, no criminal history, and successful completion of a handgun training class.


Um, yeah. That sounds very reasonable except it is virtually impossible to actually be approved. I doubt very seriously that this will change.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:46:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 11:47:51 AM EST by anekrel]
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With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
Choice Votes Percentage of 542 Votes
Yes. 430 79%
No. 112 21%

I want to know what the logic is behind the people voting "no". I don't have a CCW yet, but I have had to grab my house gun twice for either a shots fired in my complex scenario, or someone trying to break in and I have been in Cali since March and I don't live in a huge city.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:49:13 AM EST
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Choice Votes Percentage of 572 Votes
Yes. 455 80%
No. 117 20%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:52:40 AM EST
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Yes. 457 80%
No. 117 20%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:53:13 AM EST
hit 80 yea 20 no
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Choice Votes Percentage of 582 Votes
Yes. 464 80%
No. 118 20%

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:54:43 AM EST
With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
Choice Votes Percentage of 587 Votes
Yes. 469 80%
No. 118 20%
Thanks for taking part in our informal survey.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:57:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 12:00:18 PM EST by operatorerror]
Politics. It's a threat to wake the supes up so the sheriff can get his funding. I'll believe it when I see it.

eta It says that he is considering issuing more permits. I take that to mean that he was denying permits.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:59:58 AM EST
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With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
Choice Votes Percentage of 607 Votes
Yes. 486 80%
No. 121 20%



Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:04:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 12:04:28 PM EST by PinePig]
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
I take that to mean that he was denying permits.


As a Sac county resident....... Like a motherfucker.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:05:27 PM EST
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81 yes
19 no
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Yes. 509 80%
No. 125 20%
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Choice Votes Percentage of 641 Votes
Yes. 514 80%
No. 127 20%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:15:27 PM EST
Yes. 521 80%
No. 127 20%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:20:19 PM EST
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Choice Votes Percentage of 726 Votes
Yes. 587 81%
No. 139 19%


Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:54:01 PM EST
I hope KCRA 3 does a positive story on this tonight w/ the poll results.

They have been pretty good in the past. Just a couple BS "facts" from no research on some gun stories in the past.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:55:25 PM EST
Yes. 593 81%
No. 142 19%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:59:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 1:00:14 PM EST by ibm_db2]
With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
ChoiceVotesPercentage of 745 Votes
Yes.603......... 81%
No.142......... 19%
Thanks for taking part in our informal survey.
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HOT LINK http://www.kcra.com/news/19758319/detail.html
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:00:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By ibm_db2:
With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
ChoiceVotesPercentage of 745 Votes
Yes.603......... 81%
No.142......... 19%
Thanks for taking part in our informal survey.
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HOT LINK http://www.kcra.com/news/19758319/detail.html


Can't they tell if you hot link and drop the poll?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:01:08 PM EST
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We are kicking ass.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:07:11 PM EST
Yes. 622 81%
No. 149 19%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:16:22 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:37:05 PM EST
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Choice Votes Percentage of 848 Votes
Yes. 687 81%
No. 161 19%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:54:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By ibm_db2:
With law enforcement cuts possible, would you consider applying for a concealed weapon permit?
ChoiceVotesPercentage of 745 Votes
Yes.603......... 81%
No.142......... 19%
Thanks for taking part in our informal survey.
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HOT LINK http://www.kcra.com/news/19758319/detail.html


No hot links to polls, if you don't mind.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 4:57:32 PM EST
Yes. 1218 84%
No. 232 16%
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:02:24 PM EST
See...I think a lot of people are misreading it. IMO, the government just wants the revenue. It's a tax they haven't been exploiting for income yet.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:22:41 PM EST
I like our sheriff, but even if he tripled the amount of CCW's, that would make a total of 12.

This is meant to make the County Supervisors tremble in fear that those awful "gunpeople" will be walking the "lawless streets" if they cut officers.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:26:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:29:02 PM EST
Yes. 1271 84%
No. 246 16%
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