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Posted: 4/10/2011 6:42:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2011 7:26:50 AM EDT by Afterwork_Ninja]
It only takes 3 minutes, and you guys are already on a government list somewhere, so there is no excuse not to. I think the public comment period ends on May 1st, so do it now.

Here is the study if you need to refresh your memory.
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/012611-study-on-importality-of-certain-shotguns.pdf


Here is a sample letter:



Subject: I Oppose Further Restrictions on Shotgun Imports.

I strongly oppose further restrictions on the importation of shotguns and disagree with the findings in the ATF shotgun study.

The constitutional authority for import restrictions based on a vague “Sporting Purpose Test” is highly suspect in light of the recent Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions and the Court’s previous decision in Miller.

Under the definitions contained in this study, virtually all pump-action and semi-auto shotguns would be banned because all of them are capable of accepting a magazine – box or tube – capable of holding more than 5 rounds. This and other characteristics determined to be “military” in the study are utilitarian and often significantly enhance a gun’s usefulness, particularly for people with disabilities. Denying access to certain designs or features can effectively serve to disarm (for personal defense and sporting purposes) vast numbers of disabled veterans and others with disabilities resulting in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

There are a variety of popular and growing sports which utilize shotguns with “military” features. These guns are dominant in USPSA, IDPA, IPSC and other popular shooting sports. Refusing to recognize these sports as they relate to shotguns based on the implications such recognition might have on rifle and pistol importability is disingenuous at best.

Applying import restrictions does little more than increase costs and complicate compliance for US shooters and gun owners. Foreign manufacturers remove features and adapt their firearms to comply with US import restrictions and then US shooters modify the firearms back to the desired, original configurations. This can be expensive and legally dangerous since failing to comply with obscure provisions of the laws related to altering imported firearms can result in unintended commission of multiple felonies which carry serious penalties.

ATF should shelve all plans to implement any of the findings of this study.

Respectfully submitted,






Here is the email address. I am having a hard time hotlinking it so you will have to cut and paste.

shotgunstudy@atf.gov





Form letter stolen from here.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 7:04:56 AM EDT
Shot, over.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 7:10:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
Shot, over.


Thank you sir.

It may not change any of their stupid opinions, but it's better than doing nothing.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 7:24:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2011 7:25:46 AM EDT by bluefalcon]
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
Shot, over.


Thank you sir.

It may not change any of their stupid opinions, but it's better than doing nothing.



I concur. Even if it doesn't change their minds, it may be of use in a future court case to illustrate the opposition to their ruling and the points that were made. If we could only start getting some folks in that agency fined and fired, they might not be so arrogant in the future.

ETA: might want to put "FIREMISSION" in the thread title, though. It seems to mobilize the hive better.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 1:44:18 PM EDT
Done.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 1:51:53 PM EDT
done
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 1:58:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2011 1:58:19 PM EDT by Sixpack595]
Hit.


If you really want people to see it, bash the NRA in the thread title, it will be bumped every 30 seconds for 12 pages before being locked,
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 1:58:31 PM EDT
Done.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 1:59:48 PM EDT
I'd just like their agents to stop running meth rings and prostituting themselves in motel rooms.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 2:05:58 PM EDT
Yup. I've done it, and passed it on as well.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 2:10:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sixpack595:
Hit.


If you really want people to see it, bash the NRA in the thread title, it will be bumped every 30 seconds for 12 pages before being locked,


I could also mention Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, or birth certificate. Those seem to catch on fire and reach 10 pages.





Send a quick email guys. I read the whole report when the "Oh my God are they going to ban Saigas" nonsense started, but then I forgot to send a letter.

It only takes a couple minutes to copy and paste the template in the OP.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 3:54:44 PM EDT
Sunday night bump.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 4:18:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2011 4:19:21 PM EDT by scottedward58]
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:



Send a quick email guys. I read the whole report when the "Oh my God are they going to ban Saigas" nonsense started, but then I forgot to send a letter.

It only takes a couple minutes to copy and paste the template in the OP.


Do you really think emails would change anything? They have had a plan since before this was announced and with the people running the Justice Department now the only letters they might care about are about ways to further limit our freedoms.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 4:48:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:



Send a quick email guys. I read the whole report when the "Oh my God are they going to ban Saigas" nonsense started, but then I forgot to send a letter.

It only takes a couple minutes to copy and paste the template in the OP.


Do you really think emails would change anything? They have had a plan since before this was announced and with the people running the Justice Department now the only letters they might care about are about ways to further limit our freedoms.


No, but it is slightly better than just bitching about it.

I call, write letters, send emails, and vote in November. I tell my friends and acquaintances to do the same. It's about all I can manage while holding a job and keeping up with the rest of life. It may not be much, but people not paying attention and doing nothing is why they are able to do things like this. The time it took you to post that you could have sent an email to the ATF, your congress critters and a few of your friends.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 5:03:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/10/2011 5:38:43 PM EDT
Sent. and sent to my face book friends and outlook contacts..
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 5:40:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:



Send a quick email guys. I read the whole report when the "Oh my God are they going to ban Saigas" nonsense started, but then I forgot to send a letter.

It only takes a couple minutes to copy and paste the template in the OP.


Do you really think emails would change anything? They have had a plan since before this was announced and with the people running the Justice Department now the only letters they might care about are about ways to further limit our freedoms.


Speaking in opposition is better than sitting with my thumb up my ass.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 6:30:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2011 6:33:13 PM EDT by scottedward58]
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:



Send a quick email guys. I read the whole report when the "Oh my God are they going to ban Saigas" nonsense started, but then I forgot to send a letter.

It only takes a couple minutes to copy and paste the template in the OP.


Do you really think emails would change anything? They have had a plan since before this was announced and with the people running the Justice Department now the only letters they might care about are about ways to further limit our freedoms.


No, but it is slightly better than just bitching about it.

I call, write letters, send emails, and vote in November. I tell my friends and acquaintances to do the same. It's about all I can manage while holding a job and keeping up with the rest of life. It may not be much, but people not paying attention and doing nothing is why they are able to do things like this. The time it took you to post that you could have sent an email to the ATF, your congress critters and a few of your friends.


Yeah I sent a letter a while ago, when this first came out but I still think it's all a farce. They want us to think we have just enough control over the government to prevent a revolt. What's that saying, "when we can no longer vote from the ballot box, vote from the roof tops." they know that saying so they give us just enough to think we have some sort of power.
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 6:38:12 PM EDT
It takes a minute to do, and if there is any chance it will help, isn't it worth it?
Link Posted: 4/10/2011 8:26:09 PM EDT
Sent.
Link Posted: 4/11/2011 3:59:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 6:06:43 PM EDT
bttt as the public comment period expires on Sunday, 5/1/11.
Link Posted: 4/29/2011 6:39:07 PM EDT
Just a suggestion...emphasize the economic impacts of this regulation.

It will harm small businesses. It will prevent you as a shooter from participating in target practice or competition which means less trips per year and less local economic activity. Try to give hard numbers––how much you spend on gas, ammo, food, travel time, etc. to go to a match or target session when you shoot the Saiga, for example.

Lately the Obama political appointees have gotten very sensitive about the huge economic impacts their regulations have on the economy especially small businesses.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 6:49:49 AM EDT
Sent one in at the last minute...
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