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Posted: 7/2/2012 4:51:06 PM EDT


Feds: Arizona man caused huge forest blaze with shotgun blast

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/arizona-forest-fire-879543
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 4:58:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2012 5:00:37 PM EDT by BD1a]
......
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:04:12 PM EDT
Idiot
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:05:00 PM EDT
big ups to fpsrussia for advertising that retarded shit
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:05:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2012 5:06:52 PM EDT by TexasDoubleTap]
someone fire off a 40mm flare or something?  





eta.. dragon's breath?



 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:09:04 PM EDT
that was just stupid

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:09:21 PM EDT
Ooops!  
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:09:43 PM EDT
The largest wildfire burning in Arizona was started during a bachelor party when one shotgun-toting celebrant fired a shell that promises to shoot “100 feet of fire, setting everything in its path ablaze,”...

A warning on the Fiocchi 12 gauge round’s packaging made its danger clear: “Shoots 100 feet of fire, setting everything in its path ablaze. Warning: Extreme FIRE HAZARD.”
 


Deserves everything he gets.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:14:51 PM EDT
A fucking Ginger.....go figure.



Soul-less little bastard!!!


 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:16:43 PM EDT
So, is this Shiflet character on the hook for all costs?  Uncle Sam put a lien on wages for the rest of his life or does he do time?  Both?  I must admit to not followng this fire, has anyone been killed as a result?  Knowing they have the ass that started it, I'll follow the story now to see how this plays out.

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Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:18:52 PM EDT
Well, say goodbye to those rounds... Already illegal in Florida.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:20:01 PM EDT
Is this the new more reason for gun control angle?
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:22:39 PM EDT



Originally Posted By mmf:


Is this the new more reason for gun control angle?


Yep...if they are willing to walk guns to Mexico to ban the 2A...this will be right up their alley

 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:24:27 PM EDT

And how many fires have cigarettes caused?  Guess that's why they are illegal now, too.

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:25:28 PM EDT
This is why so many laws exist - because of the lowest common denominator.

This is also why we can't have nice things.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:28:41 PM EDT
Maybe not new gun control measures but increased restrictions on any type of incendiary or tracer ammo may be forthcoming.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:28:54 PM EDT
Utah blames their fires on shooters every single year.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 5:40:28 PM EDT
I hear that they are blaming the Colorado fires on gun fire as well.

They also blamed the ones in Texas last year on shooting.

I am noticing a trend here.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 6:59:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Badass03:
I hear that they are blaming the Colorado fires on gun fire as well.

They also blamed the ones in Texas last year on shooting.

I am noticing a trend here.


yup gun owners are the badguys yet again,wonder how long before they make us have liability ins
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:06:43 PM EDT

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:09:56 PM EDT
I've started multiple grass fires while shooting.




 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:12:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Waveform:
I've started multiple grass fires while shooting.

 


I've never started a fire when shooting anything but tracer. And since I've only shot it when snowy & wet with a fire extinguisher on hand.

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:16:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:16:23 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Krink:



Originally Posted By Badass03:

I hear that they are blaming the Colorado fires on gun fire as well.



They also blamed the ones in Texas last year on shooting.



I am noticing a trend here.





yup gun owners are the badguys yet again,wonder how long before they make us have liability ins
Well, Fast and Furious failed it's objective, they're just redirecting.





 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:18:21 PM EDT
What a fucking idiot.

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:22:12 PM EDT
Mandatory suppressors should prevent most of these type of fires, there should be a law!






 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:30:05 PM EDT
He should do a cage match with Smokey The Bear.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:42:54 PM EDT
probably a good ting he didnt try shooting nearby a gas container.


Too bad the dumbass didnt read the warnings on the box.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:43:47 PM EDT
"Somebody should ban those things!"
 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 7:49:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mmf:
Is this the new more reason for gun control angle?


Pretty much, it's a culture war and they're wanting to turn public opinion against guns. What the media leaves out is that current policies are to stamp out all wild fires, which builds up more and more fuel for a really big calamity when it inevitably does catch fire. If the authorities allowed controlled burns, there would not be so much fuel.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:01:52 PM EDT
Oy....

On one hand, if it's true, then that guy is a fucking dipshit.

On the other hand...Should we really trust anything the Federal government says about firearms, now that they want to say so little about their own retarded arms trafficking program?
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:03:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2012 8:24:08 PM EDT by Isenhelm]
This was not just normal shooting, the guy used a fucking INCENDIARY ROUND





~A warning on the Fiocchi 12 gauge round’s packaging made its danger
clear: "Shoots 100 feet of fire, setting everything in its path ablaze.
Warning: Extreme FIRE HAZARD.”





You better believe it will be used as fuels against gun rights and shooting, everything true or false that can be, will be.



ETA- I have nothing against incendiary rounds and do not support any ban. But the area here is very dry, in a 19? year drought.... wrong place, wrong time to be thinking about playing with fire.



 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:07:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2012 8:08:09 PM EDT by AZ_Sky]
Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:
"Somebody should ban those things!"  


I assume you are talking about human idiots!!!  
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:23:48 PM EDT
What a moron, I wish they could get him for the 6 million sadly it would probably be deemed cruel and unusual punishment.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:34:06 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Vault_Boy:



Originally Posted By Waveform:

I've started multiple grass fires while shooting.



 




I've never started a fire when shooting anything but tracer. And since I've only shot it when snowy & wet with a fire extinguisher on hand.





One with tracer, one with propane, one with regular bullets on magnesium brake parts.





 
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:53:56 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Mac_Fan:


So, is this Shiflet character on the hook for all costs?  Uncle Sam put a lien on wages for the rest of his life or does he do time?  Both?  I must admit to not followng this fire, has anyone been killed as a result?  Knowing they have the ass that started it, I'll follow the story now to see how this plays out.



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A couple of years ago an out of work volunteer firefighter started the last huge Az fire on purpose so he'd have work. I think he's still in prison. Of course it was made worse when it joined with another fire.  That one was started when a newschopper covering the first one rescued a lost hiker andspread the coals from his signal fire everywhere
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