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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:31:56 AM EST
An FBI Denver Joint Terrorism Task Force handout being distributed to Colorado military surplus store owners lists the purchase of popular preparedness items and firearms accessories as “suspicious” and “potential indicators of terrorist activities,” instructing store owners to keep records on and report people who:
“Make bulk purchase of items to include:
Weatherproofed ammunition or match containers
Meals Ready to Eat
Night Vision Devices; night flashlights; gas masks
High capacity magazines
Bi-pods or tri-pods for rifles”

More @
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/08/10/7769/

PDF of Handout
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:33:02 AM EST
[#1]
Night flashlights?????





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Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:34:24 AM EST
[#2]
Quoted:
Night flashlights?????





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Yeah, well you know, those daytime flashlights are pretty useless outside of AK.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:35:05 AM EST
[#3]
Quoted:
Night flashlights?????





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Sounds like a polish joke.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:36:16 AM EST
[#4]



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Night flashlights?????
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Illuminators for night vision use I guess.

 
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:38:14 AM EST
[#5]
So they list anything made by a ARFCOM Site Sponser...

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:38:49 AM EST
[#6]
Whats "Weatherproofed ammunition " ?

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:39:15 AM EST
[#7]
Terrorists eating MRE's?

Really?
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:39:55 AM EST
[#8]
<facepalm.gif>
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:40:48 AM EST
[#9]
I'm going to try and purchase a knockoff harris bipod at Wal Mart and see if they ask for ID
Speed
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:40:56 AM EST
[#10]
Quoted:
Whats "Weatherproofed ammunition " ?



The kind you lose in a horrible boating accident silly
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:42:18 AM EST
[#11]
Go read the PDF.   They are encouraging the stores to collect ID on all customers, and a bunch of other crap too.

Such bullshit.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:42:59 AM EST
[#12]
I wonder what a Post Ban flashlight will look like?
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:43:29 AM EST
[#13]
Oh for fuck sake.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:44:52 AM EST
[#14]
Sorry, surpluss stores are not operator / tier 1 enough for the folks they thin thhey need to worry about.



They just sell a bunch of musty and knock off shit at insane rates.

I can get civi gear of much higher util,ity and quality at the same price by shopping on arfcom vendor sights or hopping in to see what all the new gear is in a typical travis/chris mancrush thread



Regardless, surplus store operators are old school, ornery, cantankerous, and not willing to cooperate.  They pretty much peaked during the goofy and now dead militia movement of the 90s where you had fat old men running around inna woods in mismatched east and westgerman uniforms with their damn hunting rifles or a mini 14 at best
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:46:08 AM EST
[#15]
Fucking idiots.

It seems that the gov is unwilling to hire anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:46:36 AM EST
[#16]
Quoted:
Whats "Weatherproofed ammunition " ?



Sealer on the primer and case mouth, I presume.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:46:55 AM EST
[#17]
Do surplus stores even carry ammo? I don't think I've ever seen an ammunition section in any surplus store I've been to.


That said, I don't frequent them. I do remember airsoft displays though...
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:48:21 AM EST
[#18]
Quoted:
Terrorists eating MRE's?

Really?


Anyone who would not be totally dependent on the .gov in the event of a disruption in the food supply chain is a "terrorist" in .gov newspeak.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:48:35 AM EST
[#19]
Amazing... fucking amazing
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:49:29 AM EST
[#20]



Quoted:


Whats "Weatherproofed ammunition " ?





It's the kind that you get for your Glock so you can shoot it in your kiddie pool to impress you neighbors.



 
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:50:31 AM EST
[#21]
What's next?  Suspicious purchasing of tents and thermal sleeping bags? Cargo pants and flip-flops?
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:52:14 AM EST
[#22]
Maybe they mean weatherproofed ammo and match containers, like weatherproof storage, ammo cans ect. You gotta watch those ammo cans.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:52:51 AM EST
[#23]
aw fer fucks sake.

are they really that bored?  sounds like some ATF's brown-noser idea for an OPR/EPR bullet to me....
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:54:25 AM EST
[#24]
Quoted:
Maybe they mean weatherproofed ammo and match containers, like weatherproof storage, ammo cans ect. You gotta watch those ammo cans.


That's how I read it.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:54:27 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:57:42 AM EST
[#26]
You realize now, that there is active monitoring of this and every site now,  don't you?

We are the list.

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 5:59:46 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:01:39 AM EST
[#28]
Quoted:
I'm going to try and purchase a knockoff harris bipod at Wal Mart and see if they ask for ID
Speed


pssssssssst.

Speed- IM me. I'll do a FTF.

Better yet. I'll leave it under the bridge and you leave the money in the hollow log.



Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:01:51 AM EST
[#29]
I think I'll take a little jaunt to my local surplus shop today on my lunch hour.  Mr. Rusty Shackleford needs some new ammo cans and MREs.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:02:16 AM EST
[#30]
Gun shops are getting them too... only they are tailored to gun shops. I got one in the mail a few days ago.

Mine says: "Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities Related to Firearms Shops and Ranges"
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:03:19 AM EST
[#31]
Quoted:
"It is important to remember that just because someone's speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different; it does not mean that he or she is suspicious."

What this statement means is, just because some shifty looking Arab guy named Achmed and his ten best friends on work visas from Saudi Arabia comes in, does not mean that you should pay them any extra attention. But when Joe the Marine just back from his third tour in the sandbox comes in and buys ammo cans, MREs to show his kids, and waterproof matches, one should demand ID and contact DHS...

Am I reading the liberal NewSpeak correctly?

TR85.


Don't forget, "Insists on paying with Cash..."
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:04:31 AM EST
[#32]
Quoted:
I think I'll take a little jaunt to my local surplus shop today on my lunch hour.  Mr. Rusty Shackleford needs some new ammo cans and MREs.


My pal Hank Bowman goes to those places all the time.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:05:11 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:05:17 AM EST
[#34]
So happy I don't live in a police state.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:06:41 AM EST
[#35]
Quoted:
We are the list.


Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:07:03 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:07:07 AM EST
[#37]
Quoted:
Terrorists eating MRE's?

Really?



Let-'em eat MRE's. That'll teach them.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:07:24 AM EST
[#38]
Quoted:
Gun shops are getting them too... only they are tailored to gun shops. I got one in the mail a few days ago.

Mine says: "Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities Related to Firearms Shops and Ranges"


We got one of those too. Must have gone out to all ffl's because we don't sell firearms, we make cast bullets. Is it fishy when someone buys 5000 9mm bullets?
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:08:57 AM EST
[#39]
Quoted:
You realize now, that there is active monitoring of this and every site now,  don't you?

We are the list.



I am on so many .gov lists at this point that i don't mind the lists anymore.  Try flying from Iraq to the US one way, with no return ticket and no way to prove how you got there.  Oh, and do it while not being .mil.  See how many lists you are added too and how many people's head explode when you do it.  At Gatwick Airport, you would have thought i had a gun and a bomb, by the reaction i got.

The only list that matters now is the "Don't Fuck With Me List"!
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:09:17 AM EST
[#40]
Not sure what Mil Surp stores the FBI thinks will actually cooperate with this directive. Most of the mil surp stores I've been in are run by folks are are just a wee bit wary of the government overlords...
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:09:18 AM EST
[#41]
"Imagine what those pumpkins do
with each other when they' re alone!"

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:09:48 AM EST
[#42]
I remember  reading what the Libtards had in their "AWB II".
They wanted to regulate ammo cans  & have serial numbers on them. Only a racist Tea Party Terrorist type could have ANY use for a water-proof storage device.



The Ol' Crew Chief
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:10:01 AM EST
[#43]
Somebody needs to cross post this in the colorado hometown forum.

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:11:08 AM EST
[#44]
I like these statements:
It is important to remember that just because someone's speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different; it does not mean that he or she is suspicious.


And this little gem:
Some of the activities, taken individually, could be innocent and must be examined by law enforcement professionals in a larger context to determine whether there is a basis to investigate.


So they need to investigate someone to find out if they need to investigate them?
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:11:11 AM EST
[#45]


What next? ID and fingerprints to buy BDU pants?  
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:11:13 AM EST
[#46]
Letter just sent to my congresscritter.

Dear Sir:  

I have recently seen a flyer distributed to Colorado military surplus stores by the local FBI office.  It requests that proprietors of such stores require IDs, track purchases, use "soft interrogation" techniques and report any suspicions to local law enforcement.  While this sounds fairly reasonable, "suspicious people or groups" include anyone who espouses a desire for personal privacy, pays in cash, makes "extreme statements about race, religion or violence" or "suspicious comments" against the government.  "Suspicious purchases" include bulk purchases of items such as weatherproof matches, ammunition, MREs, night vision/infra-red flashlights, standard-capacity magazines or rifle bipods.  

It seems that Colorado hunters, varminters, hikers, recreational shooters, those having an interest in preparing for emergencies and/or your constituents who are livid at the irresponsibility and incompetence rampant in this administration are considered potential terrorists by the FBI.  I sincerely hope that you are in a position to put an end to this nonsense before merely writing my representative is enough to make me appear “suspicious”.

Sincerely,
KeithC
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:11:19 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:11:21 AM EST
[#48]
Quoted:
Night flashlights?????





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Well the cool thing about day flashlights is they run on solar power.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:11:35 AM EST
[#49]
Quoted:
Whats "Weatherproofed ammunition " ?

Weatherproofed ammo container & weatherproofed MATCH container.  MATCH CONTAINER???

You know, read further down on that link and they compare that list to the Boy Scouts, how your average Boy Scout should be reported to the Feebs.  We should do that, everyone turn in your local scout down the road, he's got camping food, tents, knives, he knows how to shoot, a strange uniform with tactical special ops badges and patches, an obvious terrorist!  And his motto is the worst, "BE PREPARED"!!!

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:12:08 AM EST
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Quoted:
Gun shops are getting them too... only they are tailored to gun shops. I got one in the mail a few days ago.

Mine says: "Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities Related to Firearms Shops and Ranges"


What state? We haven't got any yet. Might be regional.


I'm in PA.

I can email a scan of the notice to someone if they want to host / post it here...  It's currently scanned and in PDF format, but photobucket won't upload it.

PM me your email address and I'll get it to you in a few minutes.
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