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Posted: 12/20/2016 2:37:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 2:39:26 PM EST by Medicfrost]
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:40:50 PM EST
is this one of the "under colt license" rifles?
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:41:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jmo371:
is this one of the "under colt license" rifles?
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I have no idea. I'm sure some fanboy will be here any minute to let us know....after hes done jerking off to the sale price.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:42:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 2:45:50 PM EST by CoyoteGray]
Not fake but a cheap model...

ETA: My bet is that Colt thought they would be selling these for $1000 today but things didn't work out that way...
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:43:39 PM EST
Can't tell from the pics if it's a slick side, or if the casting is there to install the FA and DC.  Guessing slick side tho. 
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:44:08 PM EST
#dustcovermasterrace, #notinterested.


Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:44:44 PM EST
Oh, the Anderson made Colts, right?
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:44:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CoyoteGray:
Not fake but a cheap model..
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Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:47:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Doppleganger871:
Can't tell from the pics if it's a slick side, or if the casting is there to install the FA and DC.  Guessing slick side tho. 
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"What it does lack, however, is a forward assist and a dust cover. This is done because the average user simply doesn’t need or use these features. That said, a dust cover and forward assist can easily be added if needed."

http://www.gundigest.com/tactical-gear/ar-15-review-colt-expanse-m4
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:47:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Doppleganger871:
Can't tell from the pics if it's a slick side, or if the casting is there to install the FA and DC.  Guessing slick side tho. 
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you can add it.

And really not a bad price since cloners will pay damn near $500 for a complete "M4 Carbine" colt lower. Sell lower keep upper, add a $3 dust cover and $10 forward assist throw on a PSA blem and you can be into a complete AR for like $200 after you sell the lower.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:50:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:50:24 PM EST
FA and dust cover can be added. 

Colt just had extra butt plugs laying around (#1 selling item for their fanbois) so they used them instead of actual forward assist mechanisms.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:50:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ghetto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnGhScNX24
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Holy shit, I am no colt fanboy but that guy is fucking retarded
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:51:04 PM EST
tempting
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:53:10 PM EST
That's coltarded.  FA and DC cost colt what... about $3 in quantity? 
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:54:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jmo371:
is this one of the "under colt license" rifles?
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Yes.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:55:55 PM EST
No m4 cuts on the bbl either.  Looks like a great deal.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 2:57:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 2:58:29 PM EST by failureToExtract]
Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnGhScNX24
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Holy shit, I am no colt fanboy but that guy is fucking retarded
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Retarded? He is the author of The Black Rifle and a former Colt employee.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:04:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 3:14:12 PM EST by Willmar]
I'm not seeing a problem. Add the FA and dust cover - *BOOM* - you now have a genuiune Colt without the goofy M4 barrel for a pretty good price.

ETA: Nevermind. I watched the video. Disregard my comment.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:09:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By failureToExtract:




Retarded? He is the author of The Black Rifle and a former Colt employee.
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnGhScNX24


Holy shit, I am no colt fanboy but that guy is fucking retarded




Retarded? He is the author of The Black Rifle and a former Colt employee.


Then why the hell is he spending 20 minutes arguing that a $600 rifle "isn't colt" because it's not the same as a $1,000 rifle. His argument is retarded. Oh this part isn't the exact same as the le6920 so it must be made by someone else. Uhhh because it's NOT the same as the 6920 you don't get a $400 cheaper gun by putting the same damn parts as a $1,000 gun. If he wants to argue quality, fine but his whole argument is it's not a 6920, therefore its not a colt. Its like saying a GI model Springfield 1911 isn't a Springfield because it doesn't have the same parts as an Elite or Range Master.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:10:36 PM EST
Are those barrels chrome lined? They are not hitting that price point with just a FA and dust cover delete.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:11:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:


Holy shit, I am no colt fanboy but that guy is fucking retarded
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I think he has a broken back, not downs syndrome.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:14:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:16:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
Are those barrels chrome lined? They are not hitting that price point with just a FA and dust cover delete.
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It says non-chrome lined bbl on the details. Wonder if they also skipped all the Q/C checks that the LE models supposedly get.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:18:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:19:36 PM EST
Looks good to me.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:20:12 PM EST
So these are what people are buying then selling "Colt m4 lowers" on GB for $600?
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:20:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
Are those barrels chrome lined? They are not hitting that price point with just a FA and dust cover delete.
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Barrel is not chrome lined. 
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:21:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 3:22:33 PM EST by MadProfessor]
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Originally Posted By Ghetto:

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What is that dude wearing?


Edited: Back brace of some sort.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:21:46 PM EST
I found out my SO got me a Colt Expanse for Christmas. Should I eject...
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:23:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By USNGM2:
So these are what people are buying then selling "Colt m4 lowers" on GB for $600?
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Probably so. I think the only thing on the rifle made by Colt is the lower.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:24:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kbear:
I found out my SO got me a Colt Expanse for Christmas. Should I eject...
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If my wife bought me any sort of firearm, I'd be so stoked I might have a heart attack.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:33:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 3:35:50 PM EST by hiyaboa]
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:


Then why the hell is he spending 20 minutes arguing that a $600 rifle "isn't colt" because it's not the same as a $1,000 rifle. His argument is retarded. Oh this part isn't the exact same as the le6920 so it must be made by someone else. Uhhh because it's NOT the same as the 6920 you don't get a $400 cheaper gun by putting the same damn parts as a $1,000 gun. If he wants to argue quality, fine but his whole argument is it's not a 6920, therefore its not a colt. Its like saying a GI model Springfield 1911 isn't a Springfield because it doesn't have the same parts as an Elite or Range Master.
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You're missing the point, he's saying that Colt only produced the lower receiver and the rest of the rifle is from another manufacturer. It may be a great rifle but it isn't Colt parts.

If you want it compared to a 1911, it's like a Colt frame with RIA slide and parts.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:34:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:


Then why the hell is he spending 20 minutes arguing that a $600 rifle "isn't colt" because it's not the same as a $1,000 rifle. His argument is retarded. Oh this part isn't the exact same as the le6920 so it must be made by someone else. Uhhh because it's NOT the same as the 6920 you don't get a $400 cheaper gun by putting the same damn parts as a $1,000 gun. If he wants to argue quality, fine but his whole argument is it's not a 6920, therefore its not a colt. Its like saying a GI model Springfield 1911 isn't a Springfield because it doesn't have the same parts as an Elite or Range Master.
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Originally Posted By failureToExtract:
Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnGhScNX24


Holy shit, I am no colt fanboy but that guy is fucking retarded




Retarded? He is the author of The Black Rifle and a former Colt employee.


Then why the hell is he spending 20 minutes arguing that a $600 rifle "isn't colt" because it's not the same as a $1,000 rifle. His argument is retarded. Oh this part isn't the exact same as the le6920 so it must be made by someone else. Uhhh because it's NOT the same as the 6920 you don't get a $400 cheaper gun by putting the same damn parts as a $1,000 gun. If he wants to argue quality, fine but his whole argument is it's not a 6920, therefore its not a colt. Its like saying a GI model Springfield 1911 isn't a Springfield because it doesn't have the same parts as an Elite or Range Master.

pretty much this.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:34:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hiyaboa:


You're missing the point, he's saying that Colt only produced the lower receiver and the rest of the rifle is from another manufacturer.

If you want it compared to a 1911, it's like a Colt frame with RIA slide and parts.
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The best part is that the lower receiver is less mil-spec than the other manufacturers own lower receiver.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:35:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hiyaboa:


You're missing the point, he's saying that Colt only produced the lower receiver and the rest of the rifle is from another manufacturer.

If you want it compared to a 1911, it's like a Colt frame with RIA slide and parts.
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:


Then why the hell is he spending 20 minutes arguing that a $600 rifle "isn't colt" because it's not the same as a $1,000 rifle. His argument is retarded. Oh this part isn't the exact same as the le6920 so it must be made by someone else. Uhhh because it's NOT the same as the 6920 you don't get a $400 cheaper gun by putting the same damn parts as a $1,000 gun. If he wants to argue quality, fine but his whole argument is it's not a 6920, therefore its not a colt. Its like saying a GI model Springfield 1911 isn't a Springfield because it doesn't have the same parts as an Elite or Range Master.


You're missing the point, he's saying that Colt only produced the lower receiver and the rest of the rifle is from another manufacturer.

If you want it compared to a 1911, it's like a Colt frame with RIA slide and parts.

well colt did not make all the lowers on those rifles either. some can be found under marking variances.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:42:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hiyaboa:


You're missing the point, he's saying that Colt only produced the lower receiver and the rest of the rifle is from another manufacturer. It may be a great rifle but it isn't Colt parts.

If you want it compared to a 1911, it's like a Colt frame with RIA slide and parts.
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And being sold as a Colt.


Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:48:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By richtherake:
FA and dust cover can be added. 

Colt just had extra butt plugs laying around (#1 selling item for their fanbois) so they used them instead of actual forward assist mechanisms.
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$22 or $26 at Brownells, IIRC. I had an A2 upper receiver in my junk bin missing those parts. Now I am building an M16A2 clone.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:54:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By X-CaptHook:


And being sold as a Colt.
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Exactly, they're using their brands reputation to sell a $500 rifle for $700. It's probably a decent gun but I'll be sure to look a little closer at any Colt product before I buy it or recommend it.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 3:55:59 PM EST
not chrome lined they can keep it ....
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:00:38 PM EST
No chrome lined barrel.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:08:01 PM EST
Wonder if they also skipped all the Q/C checks that the LE models supposedly get.
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I question whether the LE models even get them. The military contract specs might call for MPI testing every bolt, and they may use the same bolts for the LE versions, but each and every single line item and check off? In some cases I suspect things get batch tested and then go on the gun. As said it's not a chromed bore - do they say it's button rifled or hammerforged? Nitrided? S&W offered hammer forged nitrided in the early runs of their AR - same pricing.

It has a Colt roll mark. It's a Colt. Sorry if you disagree, but "Colt" means it's not going to be called "almost a Colt" if introduced as evidence in a court trial. It's specious to suggest otherwise. Now, if the guy is trying to make a point that this rifle isn't an M4 compliant 6920 well who said they were? Colt isn't making that claim. Much ado about nothing.

Enjoy your Colts. Colt owners? Lump it. You just got sold out for a price, you have to move up to a Noveske or FN now.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:10:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tirod:

or FN now.
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Grabs popcorn
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:13:56 PM EST
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Grabs popcorn
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or FN now.

Grabs popcorn


Or FN-made PSA CHF...I prefer not to have Colts degrading the prestige of my gun safe.

Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:15:43 PM EST
4140 unlined barrel is the main reason why the above rifle blows
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:21:36 PM EST
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Or FN-made PSA CHF...I prefer not to have Colts degrading the prestige of my gun safe.

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Just make sure it has a gas tube.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:22:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
The guy posted the bs about lwrc and had photoshops?
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Originally Posted By failureToExtract:
Originally Posted By bjohnson425:


Holy shit, I am no colt fanboy but that guy is fucking retarded




Retarded? He is the author of The Black Rifle and a former Colt employee.
The guy posted the bs about lwrc and had photoshops?



I'm not familiar with that.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:28:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Doppleganger871:
That's coltarded.  FA and DC cost colt what... about $3 in quantity? 
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Plus labor or machine time to install them.

Apply that to 5,000 or 10,000 rifles and you're talking real money. Colt will happily sell you a 6920 if you want a dust cover.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:30:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 4:33:57 PM EST by cms81586]
Not a bad deal. Pull the BCG and sell the upper for $200 and you just got a $259 M4's marked colt lower and a $100 colt BCG. Perfect for the MK18 clone guys. It's essentially a 6721 without a few small parts.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:32:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Not a bad deal. Pull the BCG and sell the upper for $200 and you just got a $259 M4's marked colt lower and a $100 colt BCG. Perfect for the MK18 clone guys.
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I don't think it is a "C" marked carrier, but not 100%
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 4:35:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 4:38:35 PM EST by GracieMae]
It is the original Colt Expanse rifle, made to compete with the likes of the M&P Sport and Ruger 556. It's a pure Colt, no  like on the Competition Rifle.

The Expanse 2 has the port cover and forward assist. I'm thinking the Expanse 1 is heading out of production to be replaced with the Expanse 2. Neither is chromed lined but many people (especially at the entry level price point) don't care.

Its GTG.
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