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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:53:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Ford trucks look like Amy Schmuer.
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:54:12 PM EDT
[#2]
FPNI
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:54:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Why?
No thanks. 
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:59:14 PM EDT
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Why? No thanks. 
Ford positives -Better MPG -Slightly better towing -more bells a whistles Toyota positives -More reliable -Not as "new" (not 100% sold on the aluminum concept). Toyota builds a truck that just plain runs. Very pleased with my old Tacoma. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:59:19 PM EDT
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I like my 2012 F150
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:01:02 AM EDT
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My 2010 F150 SuperCrew FX4 is still a great truck. No plans to sell it, it's been trouble free.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:06:43 AM EDT
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Last year I bought a new truck.
It came down to a tundra trd pro vs a f150 fx4. I got the Ford. The tundra was awesome but the Ford just did everything better imo. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:11:11 AM EDT
[#8]
I used to have a Tacoma and I like my F150 a lot more.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:19:27 AM EDT
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Ford as a company is a real POS disgrace bunch of MFers
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:21:30 AM EDT
[#10]
Tundra is outdated by the Ford by about 10 years.
I vote F150 |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:23:02 AM EDT
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Tundra is a dinosaur, pretty sure covered wagons had a better interior.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:32:58 AM EDT
[#12]
I love my 08 Tundra, but the new ones are basically the same thing with cosmetic changes. No opinion on newer Fords. I wont be buying a new truck until this one costs more to fix than it's scrap value.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:33:41 AM EDT
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The answer to this question depends on specifics.
I would absolutely not buy a Gen1 EcoBoost, and I'd be hesitant to buy a newer version used. I would seriously consider buying an EcoBoost new, though. The other issue when buying used is the "Toyota Tax." This is compounded by the availability of both trucks used. In any given area, you'll have a much better supply of F-150s to choose from. For these reasons, when I was shopping for a 2014ish used truck, I bought a 5.0 F-150. I'm hoping it holds up well. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:38:24 AM EDT
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Ford as a company is a real POS disgrace bunch of MFers |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:38:41 AM EDT
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Because I need a new truck.
Ford positives -Better MPG -Slightly better towing -more bells a whistles Toyota positives -More reliable -Not as "new" (not 100% sold on the aluminum concept). Toyota builds a truck that just plain runs. Very pleased with my old Tacoma. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:40:01 AM EDT
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Well this is arfcom, so there's only two options, f150 or you don't need a full size and should buy a Tacoma!
Also you should own a mustang, cuz GD |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:47:37 AM EDT
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Tundra economy sucks. Ford builds a much more advanced product. Ford prices are also better and you can make better deals with the dealers.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:48:53 AM EDT
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Ford as a company is a real POS disgrace bunch of MFers click |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:54:23 AM EDT
[#19]
ive owned both, prefer the F150
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:55:07 AM EDT
[#20]
Full Size: F150 or GM/Chevy
Compact: Toyota. Go F-150 OP. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 2:10:17 AM EDT
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If you get the F150 get the non turbo 5.0. One less thing that will fail. E locking diffs a definite plus.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 2:30:34 AM EDT
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The Tundra lags way behind the F150 in most every category.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 2:39:18 AM EDT
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It blows my mind that people actually buy new tundras.
I'd just buy an older one for way less money, its been the same truck for 10 years now. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:33:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:51:47 AM EDT
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This is a thread in which the hive is absolutely wrong. Almost every anti-Toyota post in this thread is wrong on at least one point. My business partner has an F150 that he gets washed every week and takes things from one parking lot to the next, and drives about 1000 miles per month. I have a Tundra that I also work out of, and tow things to AR a few times a year, and tow things all over our hunting areas in AR, and I drive 5000 miles per month. The Toyota is better if you use your truck. If off-road is a gravel driveway, and if you don't tow things, then they are probably equal...until of course you get some miles on the Ford.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:54:52 AM EDT
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Ford as a company is a real POS disgrace bunch of MFers I voted Ford. They've been doing truck things since the beginning. Better truck IMO. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 8:06:58 AM EDT
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Good luck getting a helpful answer here. Brand loyalty is blind and dumb. The research is on you and your needs.
That said, I have a '13 Tundra CMRW. I average 16.6mpg empty with 60% non-highway miles. I regularly tow up to 8k, no issues at all. All trucks are good these days, try to remove the blinders and evaluate what works best for you.... and drive them all first. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 8:09:18 AM EDT
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Bil bought a new Ford a few months ago, nice truck but ford already replaced the transfer case and the steering column was mounted crooked which also caused shaking and some steering parts to fail. He brought it in for the transfer case to be checked " to confirm it's gtg" 3 days ago and the tech dropped it off the lift.
He is shopping for a tundra or Titan now. Tundras I think hold up better since it's basically the same truck for the last 10ish years and any bugs are worked out but that's my opinion. Aren't toyotas more USA made than fords as well? Maybe that's the Tacoma and not tundra? |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:07:10 AM EDT
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I'm a big Toyota fanboy, but mostly the smaller trucks and Land Cruisers. I like the Tundra, but it's way outclassed when comparing 2014+ models.
I actually really like the new F150 and I would go 5.0. It's also a very safe truck in crash tests. If I were to buy a new 1/2 ton today, it would be a Ford. If used 6-7 years old Toyota would be my choice. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:11:58 AM EDT
[#30]
GMC
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:14:22 AM EDT
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Tundra. If it wasn't for the fuel economy...I'd have gone with a Tundra.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:14:55 AM EDT
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Ram 1500. Coil springs make the ride awesome and 20-22 mpg for the 8 speed hemi. I've owned 3 and would buy another in a second.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:15:30 AM EDT
[#33]
I'm a die hard Toyota guy, but my company car is a new F-150 and it terrific.
In fact our entire fleet is F-150's and F-250's and we've been very happy. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:16:36 AM EDT
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2011 tundra 105,000 miles , all I've done is scheduled maintence and brakes ! I'm happy with it
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:19:47 AM EDT
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This is a thread in which the hive is absolutely wrong. Almost every anti-Toyota post in this thread is wrong on at least one point. My business partner has an F150 that he gets washed every week and takes things from one parking lot to the next, and drives about 1000 miles per month. I have a Tundra that I also work out of, and tow things to AR a few times a year, and tow things all over our hunting areas in AR, and I drive 5000 miles per month. The Toyota is better if you use your truck. If off-road is a gravel driveway, and if you don't tow things, then they are probably equal...until of course you get some miles on the Ford. 
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:22:47 AM EDT
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Tundra is a dinosaur, pretty sure covered wagons had a better interior. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:32:02 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61708/ozt-305433.JPG Toyota, because we're done buying American. I didn't get any bailout. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:33:34 AM EDT
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And Go... We're talking 2014 and newer. Looking at the slightly used but newish/low miles route. Have owned both. (2006 F150 XLT SCab, 2007 F150 FX4 SCab, 2013 Taco DCSB, 2016 Tundra CrewMax SR5) Currently own the Tundra. The question you have to REALLY ask yourself; how long will you keep it? I have yet to see a Ford truck be flawless and not develop SOME kind of issue/engineering problem during a 5 year lifespan. Stupid Sparkplug design, Cam phasors, Trans issues, etc etc. Yes, the Tundra is an older design. But it's rock solid, and proven. Like you noted yourself. If you're going to keep it for a few years and change, do a lease, etc, the Ford will provide more creature comforts for sure. One of the few things I miss in my Tundra. Probably worth the gamble and will be reliable 'enough'. If you're going to keep this until the wheel fall off, would you rather have luxury creature comforts or rock solid reliability? (And as noted by someone else, a higher trimline Tundra does add some nice things back in, at a price of course... :| ) Cheers, E. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:39:46 AM EDT
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Tundra is a dinosaur, pretty sure covered wagons had a better interior. My vote is Ford, but I do think the Tundra is a better truck. I just think the Toyota is horribly outdated. I drive a 17 F-350, and my dad drives a 17' Tundra. He just traded his 14' Tundra two weeks ago with 120k miles on it. They gave home $24k trade value  Toyota Tax is real, and they have a following for a reason. That said I'll take my nicer truck everyday of the week.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:39:59 AM EDT
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On my second Tundra. First was a 2008 SR5 TRD Crewmax that I had for 8 years and never had an issue with it. Sold it for 20K and purchased a 2016 Limited TRD Crewmax. Never owned a F150 so cant compare, but my 2008 was as solid after 8 years and 150,000 miles as the day I bought it new. Expect the same out of my 2016.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:46:50 AM EDT
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Ram 1500. Coil springs make the ride awesome and 20-22 mpg for the 8 speed hemi. I've owned 3 and would buy another in a second. I've had a couple minor suspension issues (front end rattle), but the dealer has addressed it both times. I REALLY like my truck, but something I'll throw out there...if I'd gone with a Toyota...I doubt very much that my truck would have had to go to the shop twice to have the suspension tweaked in under 30k miles. The big three trucks all have one issue or another. If you go that route...just pick the $h1t sandwich that you prefer. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:47:37 AM EDT
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Only 1,200 miles in on my '17 F-150 3.5 EB 10 speed. Fast little truck! Got 20.4 MPG last tank calculated on paper, 70% Hwy 30% city. Aint even broke in yet.
Super quiet hwy cruise at only 1,900 RPM @ 75 MPH, great seats, decent stereo, digital readout tranny temp gauge and low RPM torque monster engine were unexpected bonuses. Only one little quirk, jerky 3ed to 1st downshift just as you come to a stop. Hoping this decreases after break in. I never even considered a 14-16 MPG gas hog Tundra. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:56:02 AM EDT
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Ford sold my family crap for decades, fell apart, caught on fire, stopped running when nearly brand new. On my second Tundra
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:56:58 AM EDT
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A couple years ago I was in nearly the exact same position. I ended up buying a lightly used 2013 F150 with the v8 and I love it. I love the look of the Tundra's exterior, but as many other posters said, the interior is grade A awful not too mention they are way overpriced for what you get IMO.
I had a Tacoma before this purchase and loved that thing, so I'm no Toyota hater by any means. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:00:03 AM EDT
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ITT: F-150 owners vote for F-150s, Tundra owners vote for Tundra. Since the F-150 is the best-selling vehicle in the United States, F-150 is going to win this poll. It's inherently biased.
AKA: don't trust the poll results. The objective answer is the Tundra. Unless you're concerned about your range between fill-ups, fuel economy is a very small expense in terms of lifetime cost difference. A transmission blow-up or turbo failure, however, will kill you. Which one gives you significantly higher risk of such? Yeah, the F-150. For comparison: Tundra reliability: http://dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Toyota_Tundra.html F-series reliability: http://dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Ford_F_Series.html On one hand, you have one of the most reliable vehicles ever sold in the United States (Tundra). On the other hand, you have a mediocre piece of rattling turd made by the UAW that has a much higher chance of offing itself earlier than you'd like or costing you thousands in repairs (F-150). The answer is easy: Tundra. P.S.: how many F-150s do you think could do this? http://www.trucktrend.com/features/1602-the-million-mile-2007-toyota-tundra/ |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:02:33 AM EDT
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I love my F-150 - I won't own foreign badged shit (even if the foreign badged shit is supposedly better - which it isn't).
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:04:09 AM EDT
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Both built in the USA. F-150 by Americans in Kansas City, Tundra by Mexicans in San Antonio. I'll take the F-150, please.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:04:24 AM EDT
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Full Size: F150 or GM/Chevy Compact: Toyota. Go F-150 OP. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:12:54 AM EDT
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It blows my mind that people actually buy new tundras. I'd just buy an older one for way less money, its been the same truck for 10 years now. It is insane. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:16:12 AM EDT
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The Ford has been updated numerous times in the last five years, the Tundra is an old piece of shit running on a 10-year-old chassis. Toyota has obviously taken zero interest in updating it.
Both will do just fine as the family sedans people use them for these days. |
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