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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:36:17 PM EDT

With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:37:53 PM EDT

[#1]

One more dead muslim terrorist. Where's the down side to that?

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:38:23 PM EDT

[#2]

Because he's a murdering bastard that directly ordered the execution of a US diplomat in Sudan.

Who gives a shit who replaces him, this dog turd needs to die ex post haste.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:38:30 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

No, but the kosher malls will be safer.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:39:07 PM EDT

[#4]

Yes It could destabilize the region, but it could also promote new leadership.

I hope he is out of there soon, because although he condemns bombings/terror etc.. it hasn't gotten any better on his watch either.

Hopefully someone will be able to lead, that holds the same vision, but is not double sided and on one hand condemn the bombings, but on the other hand pay for them.

that area just needs new leadership, and arafat is a kook anyways.

ETA: kook not cook.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:39:46 PM EDT

[#5]

Running out of jokes about him?

....oh thats right, its Arafat, what am I thinking.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:39:54 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

How much more can the region be de-stablized?

I hope his death is painful...

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:42:35 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

With Arafat, the region is at a stalemate.
With his death, the region might be destabilize for a while, but at least I can see a little light in a long tunnel for this conflict.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:44:29 PM EDT

[#8]

With him out of the picture and no Heir Appearant there will be much infighting and civil strife, they will be unlikely to strike outside of thier borders if they are not even able to point to a person they are doing it on the behest of, that is if they has anybody to spare for that kind of work during thier civil war.

ETA: The PLO has been given a certain level of legitimacy that it does not deserve, and Arafat is the embodiment of that organization. With him gone, and him leaving nobody to contimue his legacy, it allows the terrorsts he has been sponsoring for years to be treated as terrorists instead of heros.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:44:50 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

WTF is that supposed to mean? What stability presently exists? They want their own state. Israel says "OK, FOAD" and withdraws; the savages attack. Arafat either can't or won't keep a lid on the goatfuckers in his shitty little district. There are a number of active terror groups affiliated with Arafat's "party." Arafat has accomplished nothing that benefits anyone other than himself.

The situation is this: Arafat's death won't make things any worse. It may make them better, either by putting a semi-civilized thug in power as his replacement, or by diverting the Palestinian animals' homicidal lust to intramural murders as various tinhorn mullahs, generalissimos, and wanna-be Saladins struggle for power. In any event, Arafat's demise will mean there's one more dead Muslim terrorist, and that's always a good thing, regardless of the politics.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:45:08 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

How much more can the region be de-stablized?

Exactly. He does nothing to help the region.

And he is a filthy, evil terrorist.

I hope his death is painful...

It doesn't matter.

Shortly thereafter, he will be burning in Hell. Forever. Remembering what an idiot he was.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:47:15 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

You call that region stable?

I'm all for the internecine fighting that would result from the power vacuum of Arafat's passing. Better that they spend their time, energy, and high explosives killing each other than in blowing up Israeli busses and restaurants.

I'm all for Arafat assuming room temperature.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:47:20 PM EDT

[#12]

Not as much good as it is justified.

SGatr15

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:48:19 PM EDT

[#13]

If Arafat dies before naming a sucsessor, the militant side of the PLO will run wild. With no one to try and reign them in, they will go after the Israelis with reckless abandon. The Izzys will bring payback to the extreme.
The Israelis will have no choice but to respond hard and fast to each attack. They will go back into Gaza and not leave. Of course the Syrians will be pissed and probably do something stupid. The Israelis will fuck them up too and the End will begin.

Just one guys opinion.

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:49:34 PM EDT

[#14]

less terrorist leaders = always good.

arafat has been the biggest roadblock to Arab-Israeli peace in the last 15 years. the last 4 or 5 Palestinian 'prime ministers' have resigned b/c arafat won't give up power and crack down on hamas/islamic jihad/al aqusa martyrs/etc..

Posted: 10/29/2004 12:51:40 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
If Arafat dies before naming a sucsessor, the militant side of the PLO will run wild. With no one to try and reign them in, they will go after the Israelis with reckless abandon. The Izzys will bring payback to the extreme.
The Israelis will have no choice but to respond hard and fast to each attack. They will go back into Gaza and not leave. Of course the Syrians will be pissed and probably do something stupid. The Israelis will fuck them up too and the End will begin.

OK, I could deal with all that....

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:00:52 PM EDT

[#16]

"Explain Why The Death Of Arafat Is Good?"
I don't like him.

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:05:06 PM EDT

[#17]

Arafat is an old fool who missed the chance to create a Palistinian State back in the 80's … he blew it, and his only way to hang onto power was to play the 'zionist' card to divert the anger at the poverty and hoplelessness endemic in his totally corupt regime outside his turf in case the Palistinians realise he is the problem.

Andy

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:05:48 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

If you are not up on your 20th century history, up until 9-11-01 Arafat was the world's most successful terrorist. Most of the unrest in the displaced Jordanian Arab (Palestinian) population has been incited by him. He keeps the area unstable. Planerench out.

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:07:16 PM EDT

[#19]

one less terrorist to waste O2 on!

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:08:40 PM EDT

[#20]

I've been waiting for this fucker to die since the Lod Airport bombing.

Maybe even before.

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:12:40 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

An unstable region CANNOT be destabilized.

What they been doin' ain't been working. Let's try something new.

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:14:59 PM EDT

[#22]

It isn't really 'good' in the sense that anything will change. He's kind of yesterday's news as far as terrorism goes. 'National Liberation' as a motive force for terror is more a thing of the Cold War. They've been eclipsed by the Islamo-Facists.

He's just a vicious lowlife and murdering thug who richly deserves a painful end to his life.

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:16:03 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

you can finally fuck him in the shitter without him trying to get away

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:16:09 PM EDT

[#24]

he's a terrorist. i will not miss him.

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:28:31 PM EDT

[#25]

I hope his death is slow, fucking painful, and there are Israelis there at the last minute to piss on his grave. Good fucking riddance, you lying, murderous, two faced, power hungry piece of shit.

He has never crusaded for the actual resolution of war with Israel, but rather to perpetuate his own power and keep his place in the world. He's had hundreds of chances to sit down to a peaceful resolution, and has never seriously contemplated a single one.

May you burn in hell.

Doc

Posted: 10/29/2004 1:37:41 PM EDT

[#26]

The death or Arafat is VERY GOOD - because he has consistently shown himself to be so dishonest and untrustworthy, that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Israelis to negotiate any agreements with him. In the past, he has agreed to things, and then blatantly ignored his own promises.

As long as he is a "leader" there will be NO peace, NO real agreements, and NO progress.

So his death is a GREAT thing - because there's at least a chance that his replacement might actually be trustworthy and someone that we and the Israeli's can deal with.

Posted: 10/29/2004 5:55:24 PM EDT

[#27]

All good terrorists are dead !

Posted: 10/29/2004 6:11:42 PM EDT

[#28]

First of all, I doubt he'll die now. He's getting medical care and is likely to survive for a while.

Now comes another issue. Will Israel allow him to return to Ramallah? Exhile makes it much harder, if not impossible, to run the day-to-day operations.

Now, if he dies, where to bury him? The place he wants to be buried is also considered a holy place In Jerusalem by Jews. Problem there.

As to the original question, it's good for Pelestinians more than anyone else. He has been the sole stumbling block to a substantive peace accord with Isreal for years. He was on the verge of signing when Clinton was in office. He backed out at the last minute when he realized it would leave him in the uncomfortable position of no longer being in charge of a cause, but instead being in charge of a normalized society, living alongside their sworn enemy, Israel. How could he possibly save face by signing a peace treaty with Jews who he has spent his life trying to "push into the sea"?

Posted: 10/29/2004 7:35:41 PM EDT

[#29]

Did he fly in on a private bird to Paris? If so, intercept him and shoot it down....

That fits in with the Bush Doctrine of preemptive action against groups or nations that threaten the U.S. or it's allies

Lat time I looked he/the PLO is a terrorist group...and Israel is a ally.....

He and the PLO has be given a level of statehood by not only the Useless Nations, but by governments themselves...hell they even have a office in Washington D.C.....that is unacceptable...

Posted: 10/29/2004 7:44:02 PM EDT

[#30]

Posted: 10/29/2004 7:47:00 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

The difference is that the Izzys can kill whoever takes Arafat's place without the effects of killing Arafat.

Yassir has never been a 'stabilizing' force, he is an obstacle that the Israelis cannot just 'eliminate' like a Hamas or IJ leader...

With him gone, the next 'Pali leader' will be just-another-terrorist...

Posted: 10/29/2004 7:49:40 PM EDT

[#32]

Because he's a terrorist.

Posted: 10/29/2004 7:53:43 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

Matt.........The region is already "Destabalized"

Yes...Someone will take his place...However...Their "Head Master" Will no longer be able to collect another "Nobel Peace Prize"....Therefore...and just my 2 cents...They must be concerned about who is willing to be the next Tango

This could be Fun from the sidelines....

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:24:35 PM EDT

[#34]

Because he is a Palestinian terrorist who by the way, is as ugly as a decomposed rat.

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:36:03 PM EDT

[#35]

Because somewhere there is a diner in desperate need of one of their tablecloths back.

Woody

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:37:05 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region?

Watch the news much??????

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:37:21 PM EDT

[#37]

Because worms get hungry too.

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:38:24 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Quoted:
With no successor wouldn't that destabalize the region? What is your thoughts on this subject?

The difference is that the Izzys can kill whoever takes Arafat's place without the effects of killing Arafat.

Yassir has never been a 'stabilizing' force, he is an obstacle that the Israelis cannot just 'eliminate' like a Hamas or IJ leader...

With him gone, the next 'Pali leader' will be just-another-terrorist...

Right on. I totally agree.

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:40:10 PM EDT

[#39]

What could POSSIBLY be the downside to that POS going belly up?

My only regret is if the murderous fuck dies of natural causes rather than the Israelies dropping a building on him. They should have wasted his worthless ass years ago!!

DIE MOTHERFUCKER!!!! DIE SOON!!!!!

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:46:42 PM EDT

[#40]

Arab and Palestinian politics have ossified around a series of bad ideas from the 60's and 70's. Arafat was the old, lefty Arab secularist radical terrorist, and Hamas et al are the Islamist radicals. With Arafat out of the way there's a slim chance that some other secular or not quite so stupidly violent leadership could take over, and Hamas is in leader-of-the-week mode with the Israelis killing them off.

Stability is bad when the stable situation can be summed up as "fucked". The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Maybe another set of leaders won't be quite so blinkered.