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Posted: 1/28/2014 3:16:21 PM EDT
Obama will sign an executive order lifting the minimum wage only for workers under new federal contracts to $10.10 an hour, the White House said, up from the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.

A higher minimum wage for federal contract workers will provide good value for the federal government and hence good value for the taxpayer,” the administration said

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Paying more = increased value?
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:17:00 PM EDT
The handful of people this applies to will be giddy.  
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:17:27 PM EDT
How many Federal contractors work for $7 an hour?    I would be surprised if they worked for $10 an hour.  
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Paying more = fewer contractors.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:18:13 PM EDT
Obama-nomics?
You think he will get a submarine named after him, or is he trying for a garbage scow?
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:18:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 999monkeys:
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One point I make about minimum wage is that increasing it doesn't increase the value of the work, only the cost of the work.

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Originally Posted By Sled_Dog:
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Not really.  This only applies to future contracts and everyone that's bidding will be doing so against the same numbers.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:19:53 PM EDT
he’ll work around congressional opposition wherever possible this year.

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Ding ding ding
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Originally Posted By WilliamGray:
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You can look up the minimum wages for federal contracts already:  http://www.wdol.gov/
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Originally Posted By WilliamGray:
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$15.27/hr.

Other duties in my workplace pay $9/hr.
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Probably janitors and such.

The low end of the shipyard workers, those who basically clean up and such.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:21:24 PM EDT
I just dread seeing who the American people elect next.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:21:47 PM EDT
Why only $10 per hour?  Why not $15 or $20 or more???
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I'm going to go with a mostly empty symbolic gesture that his very limited impact as well.






Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:23:17 PM EDT
This is the beginning of runaway inflation. Next the shitbags in D.C. will mandate a high minimum wage that will drive the price of everything up. When you can aford to drive to McDonalds, a quarter pounder will cost you $25.00.

Minimum wage jobs are entry level, NOT living wage, raise a family, buy a home jobs.
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Yeah really.  I say anything less than $50/hr is just plain mean.  And unfair.

 
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:24:18 PM EDT
Since most goverment contractors are union and their pay is set above minimum wage by most union contracts I believe it is a raise for a lot more people than we all realize.
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Yeah really.  I say anything less than $50/hr is just plain mean.  And unfair.  
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Why only $10 per hour?  Why not $15 or $20 or more???
Yeah really.  I say anything less than $50/hr is just plain mean.  And unfair.  


Then there is this one as well today - it's not fair for some to make $10 while others make $50

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Democrats consider President Obama’s State of the Union address on Tuesday a launching point for a year of sustained assault on Republicans over a populist economic agenda...
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D.C. Thought-process:

Who cares?  It isn't my money.  Hell... for that matter, its BORROWED money.
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They operate like one that goes ass-wild on their credit cards because they know they will file bankruptcy on them anyway.
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One point I make about minimum wage is that increasing it doesn't increase the value of the work, only the cost of the work.

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Originally Posted By 999monkeys:
Paying more = increased value?


One point I make about minimum wage is that increasing it doesn't increase the value of the work, only the cost of the work.




lol you think that fucking ratard gives a shit?
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:30:37 PM EDT
At $10.10 an hour, you will see a huge difference in that double McFucking Cheese.

No more value, just higher costs.
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Yeah, screw that pesky Constitution and only Congress being allowed to spend the money.  The dictator is getting his coup going and our elected Congress will do nothing.  They are becoming more like the Russian Duma under the Politburo in the USSR.  Useless.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:31:34 PM EDT
I thought the House held the purse strings?

Oh, that's the Constitution......
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The handful of people this applies to will be giddy.  
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Lots of Union pay scales are based off of Minimum Wage + X.  That's the real point.



Edited: beat.  





 
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:32:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 999monkeys:
Obama will sign an executive order lifting the minimum wage only for workers under new federal contracts to $10.10 an hour, the White House said, up from the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.

A higher minimum wage for federal contract workers will provide good value for the federal government and hence good value for the taxpayer,” the administration said

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just because they'll get paid more doesnt mean they'll try harder
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Not really.  This only applies to future contracts and everyone that's bidding will be doing so against the same numbers.
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Originally Posted By Sled_Dog:

Paying more = fewer contractors.


Not really.  This only applies to future contracts and everyone that's bidding will be doing so against the same numbers.
Skilled workers under federal contract are usually paid according to the prevailing wage scale....I think last time I worked a contract it was like $18.65/hr and time and a half over 40 hours....

 
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One point I make about minimum wage is that increasing it doesn't increase the value of the work, only the cost of the work.



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Originally Posted By 999monkeys:

Paying more = increased value?




One point I make about minimum wage is that increasing it doesn't increase the value of the work, only the cost of the work.







 
doesn't it actually lower the value of the work?
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Not really.  This only applies to future contracts and everyone that's bidding will be doing so against the same numbers.
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Originally Posted By Sled_Dog:


Paying more = fewer contractors.



Not really.  This only applies to future contracts and everyone that's bidding will be doing so against the same numbers.
Skilled workers under federal contract are usually paid according to the prevailing wage scale....I think last time I worked a contract it was like $18.65/hr and time and a half over 40 hours....

 
 
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Originally Posted By WilliamGray:
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They don't.

However, Federal Union contract worker's base pay is based off of x% times the minimum wage.

It's a payoff for all of those who supported him in the unions.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:36:19 PM EDT
Why can't it be you get paid by the work you put forth?
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Lets not pass judgment until we hear what the state of the union is......

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Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
Yeah, screw that pesky Constitution and only Congress being allowed to spend the money.  The dictator is getting his coup going and our elected Congress will do nothing.  They are becoming more like the Russian Duma under the Politburo in the USSR.  Useless.
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This is just it. I'm wondering if anything will be said in the State of the Union - something to the effect of "look, I don't need you. I just increased minimum wage. Play ball or I do it my way". Of course, it will be phrased in a way to make Republicans look like obstructionists.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:37:55 PM EDT
and those that actually EARNED their way to that wage?  What do THEY get?  (almost sounds FSA, but you know what i mean...)
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lol you think that fucking ratard gives a shit?
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Originally Posted By DonS:


Originally Posted By 999monkeys:

Paying more = increased value?




One point I make about minimum wage is that increasing it doesn't increase the value of the work, only the cost of the work.









lol you think that fucking ratard gives a shit?




 
<Inspector Clouseau> ratard <Inspector Clouseau>







Link Posted: 1/28/2014 3:56:54 PM EDT
Since most Federal contractors make well over that already, this is just feel-good bulshit.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 4:01:02 PM EDT
Why not order that everyone on the contract gets paid the same and foster a new era where people work out of a sense of duty to contribute to the full extent of their ability rather than for money......... lol .....progressive dumbasses bring back 70's era stagflation.
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It doesn't almost sound fsa, it is 100% fsa.

If you started at $5 per hour, Worked your way up over the years, and earned enough raises to get you to that $10 per hour,  and accepted the job based on that wage, then it matters not one bit what other people make, regardless of seniority or merit.
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Brought to you by the same party that gave us this gem:

"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program."


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Who works for the federal gov and makes min wage. Thats silly.
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"What difference does it make?" is on her way...
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 4:29:34 PM EDT
I foresee many who make less than the $10/hr he raised it to getting pissed. Trying to ruffle voter base feathers so they demand action.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 4:30:30 PM EDT
How many fast food workers will go out and buy new sneakers, video games , etc. thinking that this applies to them?  
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I am glad congress has approved the budget for this.  Bigger question - what else is tied to the minimum wage of federal contractors?  Changes like this have pesky ripples sometimes.

Link Posted: 1/28/2014 4:33:53 PM EDT
Don't we still have the Davis-Bacon Act that covers this, Union scale or some such thing?
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it's not like anyone making either of those wages in a gov type job will give a flying fuck about the quality of their work product or service.

so yeah no difference, really.
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YES. This is awesome.
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