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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:23:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 8:24:30 AM EST by renotse]
Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties

CNSNews.com) - Iraqi intelligence documents, confiscated by U.S. forces and obtained by CNSNews.com, show numerous efforts by Saddam Hussein's regime to work with some of the world's most notorious terror organizations, including al Qaeda, to target Americans. They demonstrate that Saddam's government possessed mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction, in the summer of 2000, during the period in which United Nations weapons inspectors were not present in Iraq. And the papers show that Iraq trained dozens of terrorists inside its borders. Full Story


42 Pages of Iraqi Intelligence Service Documents

(CNSNews.com) - Forty-two pages of photocopied Iraqi Intelligence Service documents, some hand-written and some typed in 1993, serve as the basis for Scott Wheeler's article, entitled, "Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties." The memos reflect communication between the Iraqi Intelligence Service and Saddam Hussein. Wheeler obtained documents from a longstanding, reliable source. Full Story

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:28:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 8:30:30 AM EST by renotse]

National Review

DOES CNSNEWS.COM HAVE THE STORY OF THE YEAR? [10/04 12:23 PM]

CNS News is a nice little right-of-center web-based wire service operating in Alexandria, Virginia. They seem like pretty solid reporters, and not likely to bite on, say, memos that are supposed to be from an Air National Guard office from 1972 that were created on Microsoft Word.

So it's kind of surprising to see this report:

Iraqi intelligence documents, confiscated by U.S. forces and obtained by CNSNews.com, show numerous efforts by Saddam Hussein's regime to work with some of the world's most notorious terror organizations, including al Qaeda, to target Americans. They demonstrate that Saddam's government possessed mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction, in the summer of 2000, during the period in which United Nations weapons inspectors were not present in Iraq. And the papers show that Iraq trained dozens of terrorists inside its borders.

One of the Iraqi memos contains an order from Saddam for his intelligence service to support terrorist attacks against Americans in Somalia. The memo was written nine months before U.S. Army Rangers were ambushed in Mogadishu by forces loyal to a warlord with alleged ties to al Qaeda.



Link from National Review

comment : this story might have legs...it is being echoed on several blogs and News sights
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:28:27 AM EST
who is cnsnews and are any more well known networks running the story?

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:29:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
who is cnsnews and are any more well known networks running the story?







STOP IT! YOU'RE KILLING ME!

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:31:05 AM EST
At least it isn't CBS news.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:31:47 AM EST
*obtained* by them.. heh. could be the start of the oktober suprises. woo
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:32:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:





+1
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:32:49 AM EST
I won't hold my breath, but I hope this gets reported by other news agencies and gets some real media coverage.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:36:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 8:44:56 AM EST by raven]

Originally Posted By Shane333:
I won't hold my breath, but I hope this gets reported by other news agencies and gets some real media coverage.





DREAM ON! This doesn't fit the story they've already decided is the news. Remember how Dan Rather stood by the fake memos in the face of undeniable evidence they were complete bullshit? Know why? Because those fake memos fit his "reality". Hence his "fake but accurate" defense of them. Just like how people defend Michael Moore by saying "Well it's full of half truths, distortions, and ignores anything that contradicts his point. But it points at a GREATER TRUTH." If what they're talking about is so manifestly true, why do they have to play these games of deception to make other people see it? I guess we're too dumb, or something.

It doesn't matter if there's no proof that Bush used family connections to become a fighter pilot, or that he shirked his duty. The Democrats and media decided long ago that's what Bush did. They decided it back in 2000, and this Bill Burkett guy's decided it was true in 1998.

In the same way, the media decided, AS EARLY AS MAY 2003, that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Rational explainations like maybe he buried them and shot the flunkies who did it? Maybe shipped them to Syria? No no no. More likely, Bush just lied. Wasn't just wrong, the all-knowing moron KNEW there were no WMD, and lied to the country so he could make Dick Cheney rich(er).
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:37:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By Shane333:
I won't hold my breath, but I hope this gets reported by other news agencies and gets some real media coverage.





DREAM ON!



You never know. Perhaps Foxnews might air it. Again, I won't hold my breath, but I can hope. If Foxnews airs it, the other networks will certainly want a piece of the action.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:38:00 AM EST
whats drudge say?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:39:01 AM EST
It goes hand in hand with this story by the Sunday Times


The Sunday Times - World



October 03, 2004

Saddam ‘bought UN allies’ with oil
Robert Winnett



A LEAKED report has exposed the extent of alleged corruption in the United Nations’ oil-for-food scheme in Iraq, identifying up to 200 individuals and companies that made profits running into hundreds of millions of pounds from it.
The report largely implicates France and Russia, whom Saddam Hussein targeted as he sought support on the UN Security Council before the Iraq war. Both countries were influential voices against UN-backed action.



A senior UN official responsible for the scheme is identified as a major beneficiary. The report, marked “highly confidential”, also finds that the private office of Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, profited from the cheap oil. Saddam’s regime awarded this oil during the run-up to the war when military action was being discussed at the UN.

The report was drawn up on behalf of the interim Iraqi government in preparation for a possible legal action against those who may have illicitly profited under Saddam. The Iraqis hired the London-based accountants KPMG and lawyers Freshfields to advise on future action.

It details a catalogue of alleged bribery and corruption perpetrated by Saddam under the UN programme, revealing how the regime lined its pockets and those of influential politicians, journalists and UN officials.

The UN oil-for-food scheme was set up in 1995 to allow Iraq to sell controlled amounts of oil to raise money for humanitarian supplies. However, the leaked report reveals Saddam systematically abused the scheme, using it to buy “political influence” throughout the world.

The former Iraqi regime was in effect free to “allocate” oil to whom it wished. Dozens of private individuals were given oil at knockdown prices. They were able to nominate recognised traders to buy the cheap oil from the Iraqi state oil firm and sell it for a personal profit.

The report says oil was given to key countries: “The regime gave priority to Russia, China and France. This was because they were permanent members of, and hence had the ability to influence decisions made by, the UN Security Council. The regime . . . allocated ‘private oil’ to individuals or political parties that sympathised in some way with the regime.”

The report also details how the regime benefited by arranging illegal “kickbacks” from oil sales.

From September 2000, it is said Saddam made $228m (£127m) from kickbacks deposited in accounts across the Middle East. The analysis details only the export of oil — not the import of humanitarian supplies, also alleged to have been riddled with corruption.

The report is an interim analysis and therefore studies only a sample of oil contracts.

The other main allegations included in the report are that:

Benon Sevan, director of the UN oil-for-food programme, received 9.3m barrels of oil from the regime which he is estimated to have sold for a profit of £670,000. Sevan has always denied any improper conduct.

A former senior aide to Putin allegedly organised the sale of almost 4m barrels of oil at a profit of more than £330,000. At the time the oil was sold, Russia was blocking the UN from supporting America’s demands to attack Iraq. According to the report, the aide, who worked in the presidential office, received 3.9m barrels of oil between May and December 2002.

In the two months during the run-up to the war, the Iraqi regime illegally sold about £30m of oil to a Jordanian-based company with the money deposited in a Jordanian bank account established by the regime. This is suspected to have been an attempt to secure safe passage for Saddam’s family in the event of war.

A French oil company teamed up with the regime to bribe a UN-appointed inspector monitoring exports of Iraqi oil. The inspector, a Portuguese national working for Saybolt, a Dutch firm, was paid a total of £58,000 in cash to forge export documents.
The French firm is linked to a close associate of Jacques Chirac, the country’s president. A spokesman for Saybolt said it would be investigating the allegations.


Saddam imposed a surcharge of between 10 cents and 50 cents (5p to 27p) for every barrel of oil allocated by his regime between September 2000 and the end of 2002.
The money raised from this illegal surcharge was deposited in bank accounts in Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and the United Arab Emirates. Iraqi embassies, including those in Moscow, Athens, Cairo, Rome, Vienna and Geneva, collected the money.

In total, 175 firms and individuals allegedly paid bribes to secure oil from the regime. According to the report: “The only way of enforcing the surcharge was through verbal personal guarantees and promises due to the sensitivity of the surcharge and the secrecy surrounding its imposition. However, after extensive efforts in collecting these amounts, a total of $228m (£127m) out of $263m (£146m) was eventually collected (87% of the total imposed).






Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:44:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
It goes hand in hand with this story by the Sunday Times


The Sunday Times - World



October 03, 2004

Saddam ‘bought UN allies’ with oil
Robert Winnett



A LEAKED report has exposed the extent of alleged corruption in the United Nations’ oil-for-food scheme in Iraq, identifying up to 200 individuals and companies that made profits running into hundreds of millions of pounds from it.
The report largely implicates France and Russia, whom Saddam Hussein targeted as he sought support on the UN Security Council before the Iraq war. Both countries were influential voices against UN-backed action.



A senior UN official responsible for the scheme is identified as a major beneficiary. The report, marked “highly confidential”, also finds that the private office of Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, profited from the cheap oil. Saddam’s regime awarded this oil during the run-up to the war when military action was being discussed at the UN.

The report was drawn up on behalf of the interim Iraqi government in preparation for a possible legal action against those who may have illicitly profited under Saddam. The Iraqis hired the London-based accountants KPMG and lawyers Freshfields to advise on future action.

It details a catalogue of alleged bribery and corruption perpetrated by Saddam under the UN programme, revealing how the regime lined its pockets and those of influential politicians, journalists and UN officials.

The UN oil-for-food scheme was set up in 1995 to allow Iraq to sell controlled amounts of oil to raise money for humanitarian supplies. However, the leaked report reveals Saddam systematically abused the scheme, using it to buy “political influence” throughout the world.

The former Iraqi regime was in effect free to “allocate” oil to whom it wished. Dozens of private individuals were given oil at knockdown prices. They were able to nominate recognised traders to buy the cheap oil from the Iraqi state oil firm and sell it for a personal profit.

The report says oil was given to key countries: “The regime gave priority to Russia, China and France. This was because they were permanent members of, and hence had the ability to influence decisions made by, the UN Security Council. The regime . . . allocated ‘private oil’ to individuals or political parties that sympathised in some way with the regime.”

The report also details how the regime benefited by arranging illegal “kickbacks” from oil sales.

From September 2000, it is said Saddam made $228m (£127m) from kickbacks deposited in accounts across the Middle East. The analysis details only the export of oil — not the import of humanitarian supplies, also alleged to have been riddled with corruption.

The report is an interim analysis and therefore studies only a sample of oil contracts.

The other main allegations included in the report are that:

Benon Sevan, director of the UN oil-for-food programme, received 9.3m barrels of oil from the regime which he is estimated to have sold for a profit of £670,000. Sevan has always denied any improper conduct.

A former senior aide to Putin allegedly organised the sale of almost 4m barrels of oil at a profit of more than £330,000. At the time the oil was sold, Russia was blocking the UN from supporting America’s demands to attack Iraq. According to the report, the aide, who worked in the presidential office, received 3.9m barrels of oil between May and December 2002.

In the two months during the run-up to the war, the Iraqi regime illegally sold about £30m of oil to a Jordanian-based company with the money deposited in a Jordanian bank account established by the regime. This is suspected to have been an attempt to secure safe passage for Saddam’s family in the event of war.

A French oil company teamed up with the regime to bribe a UN-appointed inspector monitoring exports of Iraqi oil. The inspector, a Portuguese national working for Saybolt, a Dutch firm, was paid a total of £58,000 in cash to forge export documents.
The French firm is linked to a close associate of Jacques Chirac, the country’s president. A spokesman for Saybolt said it would be investigating the allegations.


Saddam imposed a surcharge of between 10 cents and 50 cents (5p to 27p) for every barrel of oil allocated by his regime between September 2000 and the end of 2002.
The money raised from this illegal surcharge was deposited in bank accounts in Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and the United Arab Emirates. Iraqi embassies, including those in Moscow, Athens, Cairo, Rome, Vienna and Geneva, collected the money.

In total, 175 firms and individuals allegedly paid bribes to secure oil from the regime. According to the report: “The only way of enforcing the surcharge was through verbal personal guarantees and promises due to the sensitivity of the surcharge and the secrecy surrounding its imposition. However, after extensive efforts in collecting these amounts, a total of $228m (£127m) out of $263m (£146m) was eventually collected (87% of the total imposed).









yeah. its always a "leaked report" or an "unnamed source" too bad id like to see some proveable facts.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:51:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 8:58:28 AM EST by TacticalMan]
We've known all along that Saddam had WMD. There's been reports of our troops finding gas shells, etc. and reports of WMD showing up shipped to other countries.

We've also known all along that Saddam had ties to terror organizations. He was giving money to Hamas and Hezbollah and look where Al Qaida leader Zarqawi ended up. Even the 9/11 Commission Report says that Iraq was part of the terrorist network. Hell, Saddam had a contract out on GB Sr.

The REAL question should be "Why doesn't GW Bush ever mention these facts?"
Seems like he could use those in the debates.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:53:19 AM EST
Haven't we heard this one before? We already knew about the links to al Qaeda, no surprise considering what kind of guy Saddam Hussein was.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 8:59:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By TacticalMan:
We've known all along that Saddam had WMD. There's been reports of our troops finding gas shells, etc. and reports of WMD showing up shipped to other countries.

We've also known all along that Saddam had ties to terror organizations. He was giving money to Hamas and Hezbollah and look where Al Qaida leader Zarqawi ended up. Even the 9/11 Commission Report says that Iraq was part of the terrorist network. Hell, Saddam had a contract out on GB Sr.

The REAL question should be "Why doesn't GW Bush ever mention these facts?"
Seems like he could use those in the debates.



exactly. why dont we hear about it?
hmmm???????
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:20:27 AM EST
Anyone who doesn't realize this by now will never get it. Saddam could come out and admit to everything and lead investigators to an underground cache of Sarin and Neutron Bombs and the Bush-haters would just say that it's something set up by the CIA as an October Surprise.

The only way Bush can win this thing is by tearing down Kerry. He's not going to get credit for anything good that happens in the mainstream media. It's going to be gloom and doom until the election is over, get used to it.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:35:33 AM EST
I think Rush may be talking about this right now. I just turned him on.....

Something about memos showing an Iraqi-Terror link.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:37:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
I think Rush may be talking about this right now. I just turned him on.....

Something about memos showing an Iraqi-Terror link.



Yes Rush is reading the story on air and says He will post links on his website.

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:46:10 AM EST
Quick, someone check the fonts on those memos.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:49:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By Burley:
Quick, someone check the fonts on those memos.



bwaahahhahahhahhahahaha!
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:54:19 AM EST
I went round and round with a CNSNews reporter over a similar story not long ago. He was a true believer, a neocon through and through. With that kind of objectiveness in his journalism, I don't think I can recommend that website for anything higher than entertainment value. They are a willing outlet for propaganda.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:01:54 AM EST
We've got at least 2 bomb squad guys who were exposed to pre-mix sarin compounds from spin-to-mix dispersal rounds used as IED's.

But of course, since they didn't find hundred of thousands in a pole barn or warehouse, neatly labeled "to USA with love, Uncle Scud", he must not have had any, right?

And the dead Kurds and Iranians must have had allergic reactions to american sunscreen - that's what caused all the blisters.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:36:39 AM EST
Rush is talking about it now.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:38:30 AM EST
Yawn
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:50:25 AM EST
tagged
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 10:52:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Rush is talking about it now.


hopefeully rush will make someone else pick it up. id love to see it on the news.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:03:41 AM EST
maybe all the WMDs are hidden beneath the yellow cake uranium?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:09:38 AM EST
tag. Hope this one is legit. If so, I can shove it up some pro-Kerry asses.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:14:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 11:26:31 AM EST by BUCC_Guy]
Didn't some of our Polish special op friends find 14 mustard gas warheads a few months back?


Searching for link....

EDIT: Woot:


Mustard gas
uk.news.yahoo.com/040701/323/ex4n8.html

Sarin Gas
www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-07-01-poland-iraq-sarin_x.htm


"legit" news sources as well...

- BG

Links work for me... for all yall as well?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:27:27 AM EST
BUSH LIED!!!

This story is an obvious fabrication, written up by someone on his campain team. After all, Kerry looked at the same intel and voted in favor of taking out Saddam because he thought, based on the same intel, that Saddam was a threat and had WMD.
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