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Posted: 5/2/2001 9:13:13 AM EDT
I got a chance to see "The Mummy Returns" last night. (Good action flick; long but very enjoyable.)

It takes place in the early 1930s, and the hero--Brendan Fraser--has a few weapons at his disposal that I've seen before like a Thompson and an Enfield.

However, the one that I wasn't familiar with was a lever-action shotgun. Anyone know what this might be? Just curious. [?]
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:16:16 AM EDT
Not sure on the model but Arnold also had one in Terminator 2, I believe it's a Winchester.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:18:53 AM EDT
I havent' seen one in person but I know they exist.  I had read somewhere that some company was going to start producing them again due to demand for Cowboy shooters.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:27:04 AM EDT
i believe it is the 1887 Winchester.Arnolds was 10ga,although they were also made in 12ga i think.Winchester has a 1894 .410 out now.Savage had a .410 conversion for there 300 Sav.takedown model.(single shot)Tri-Star was supposed to start making the 1887 agian but its been a long time since announced.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:29:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:32:02 AM EDT
By the way they were all damascus barreled
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:39:01 AM EDT
Wow, thanks for all the prompt replies. The way I figured it, if anyone was going to know, it'd be someone on this board. That's part of what keeps me coming back--the wealth of knowledge members are willing to share. (The other part is the online humor; some of the banter is pretty funny!) [^]
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:42:46 AM EDT
Marlin also offered a 12 gauge lever action. In slightly more modern times they offered the 1894 in a .410...but they are considered a high dollar collector piece.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:42:51 AM EDT
I saw one old lever action .410 in a localsports shop about a month ago.  The dealer told me that it was made by winchester for stock holders and never manufactured for the public.  He wanted 1000 buck or so for it, I think.

It looked like a lever action 30-30.  Don't know what the model was.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 10:14:35 AM EDT
The only one I've seen was on T2
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 10:21:22 AM EDT
In the January, 2001 issue of American Rifleman there is an article entitled "Whats New For 2001". They show a new model from Winchester designated as the Model 9410 .410-bore shotgun. It's a model 94 chambered for .410.

Kinda cool.

The Marlin model 410 was manufactured from 1929-1932.

Link Posted: 5/2/2001 4:43:48 PM EDT
I believe that it is a Mo 1887(or97) Winchester...that was in T2.  Small Arms Factory Lithgow, Australia is about to commence production of a modern version of these due to the demand of the Western Action groups.

Link Posted: 5/2/2001 4:49:41 PM EDT
I beleive your right on the modle 1887, the 97 was a pump action with an exposed hammer.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 4:53:56 PM EDT
Norinco has just come out with a copy of the Winchester 1897.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 4:59:27 PM EDT
the winchester 87 is the lever the 97 is the pump
i have had the honer of shooting a 87 its damn fun but really expensive becouse of cowboy action shooting the one in T2 was a heavly modded 87
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 5:05:17 PM EDT
I have two 1887's, one is shootable and the other is just a parts gun.  I hope to fix it up one day.  Needs a new stock.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 5:06:51 PM EDT
I believe that it is a Mo 1887(or97) Winchester...that was in T2.  Small Arms Factory Lithgow, Australia is about to commence production of a modern version of these due to the demand of the Western Action groups.

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Hey, mate! An Aussie on these boards, eh? Cool. I lived in Palm Beach in '99 for a couple months and had a great time in Oz. Sorry to hear about the confiscations your government instituted, however. Can you actually own a repeater now or just a double-barrel? [shotgun]
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 5:18:39 PM EDT
The shotgun is the Winchester M1887, the first successful repeating shotgun in the world.  It was one of John Moses Browinings first commercialy successful designs, his third sale after the High Wall and the M1886 Big Bore lever rifle.

The design was really a modification of Christian Spencers carbine action, scaled up to take the 10ga 2 7/8" shell.  There are actually a lot of them around because the production was overwhelmingly of cheep "commercial grade" guns with fluid steel barrels.  Very few were made with the optional Damascus barrel, though enough were that you have to have any 87' you think of shooting checked out by a gunsmith first.

   87's were made in 12ga as well, but after smokeless powder came out along with the M1897 pump gun only the 10 bore was made.  A reenginered, smokeless powder capable version, the Model 1900 was built untill about 1914, in 10ga only.  
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 9:46:21 PM EDT
Hey Kato4moto.....Palm Beach....nice area very$$$ these days though....my family had a holiday home up there....I live in the Westen Burbs...not cause I want to...but the job keeps me here...LOL

Under our present laws only Pump and Autoloading Shotguns are illegal...(without the appropriate licence anyway)...the Lever Guns will be legal but i am not sure of how they will be registered...it is still very confusing here with the laws...tere is a big push here at the moment to ban semi auto handguns....only time will tell..!!!

Andy [:(]
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 10:25:20 PM EDT
I have a bolt action if that counts.
Link Posted: 5/2/2001 10:33:01 PM EDT
i know someone who has the 10ga lever action shotgun that arnold used, it has the full length barrel.
same person has a 16ga bolt action shotgun, dont know the make of it
Link Posted: 5/3/2001 8:43:29 AM EDT
Winchester also made the Model 1901 Lever action Shotgun. This was a 10ga, pretty much like the 1887, but proofed for smokeless.

Any one looking for one of these antiques, remeber that they often short chambers ( the 87 in 12ga had 2 1/2), so don't try to run them with modern loads.
Link Posted: 5/3/2001 4:48:35 PM EDT
In my opinion, those old 1887's were the most ingenious of all Browning's designs. The action resembles the Civil War Spencer rifle somewhat, but where the Spencer had a separate lever, breech block, and locking block, the 87 has them all combined into a single piece. In fact, at first glance there doesn't appear to be anything holding it shut except your fingers on the lever. I suspect that is why they had a bit of a bad reputation back 75 years ago or so -- people were scared of what they couldn't understand. Also the way it handles that fat shotshell and gets it from the magazine to the chamber without letting it fly out the top is just amazing.
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