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Posted: 11/14/2012 7:40:07 PM EST
What is next after first class? Is the cost to charter a private flight astronomical?

SLC to Boston / Providence.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:41:56 PM EST
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:43:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 7:45:34 PM EST by morningwood1429]
There was a thread on here recently where someone wanted to charter a flight from Austin to Cozumel. The costs ended up being ludicrous.

ETA it was around 20k for 4 people
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:44:18 PM EST
I think we have a couple charter pilots on here, I'm sure they'll chime in.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:46:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 7:56:05 PM EST by M82Assault]
Unless you're going with/splitting the cost with a decent sized group, it will be insane.

ETA: As mentioned below, depends on the size of the jet you're chartering.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:46:50 PM EST
You don't have to charter it if you own one. Dude this is Arfcom .

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Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:50:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By safes2small:
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.


First post nailed it

Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:51:45 PM EST
The most cost effective way I've seen to do a flight or two is to buy a flex card, jet card or such. Basically you are buying a block of hours. 10-25-50-100. The size of the jet will greatly effect cost. For a smaller jet 6-8 passenger count on at least 2.5k an hr.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:53:25 PM EST
I work for a company that flies charter. Mostly local midwest stuff, we broker with a company for trips we cant do in our plane.

I think the last trip I saw from here to the west coast was around $40,000. But IIRC that was for an Excel, you could go cheaper in an older Slowtation.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:53:32 PM EST
Chartered a flight from Baton Rouge, LA to South Bend, IN a number of years ago to watch LSU play Notre Dame. It wasn't astronomical and we were able to fly up the afternoon of the game and fly home that night.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:56:57 PM EST
Shit, bitches. I charter a flight to work every day. I only work 2 miles from home but I have to be awesome. Every. Day.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:58:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
You don't have to charter it if you own one. Dude this is Arfcom .

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Don't be insensitive. His jet might be undergoing maintenance or maybe he let a friend borrow it.

But seriously, at work we needed to get ten people from Seattle to San Jose for a meeting. The President knew we would save time with the TSA BS both ways so he had me look into it. IIRC, It was $42k round trip. We ended-up flying commercial.

If you're thinking about flying private more than a few times, Net Jets (http://www.netjets.com/) can be a good deal. I have several coworkers that bought the 25- or 50-hour cards, and two friends that work for them. IIRC the 25-hour card was $130k.z
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:58:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 8:01:58 PM EST by Kalahnikid]
Originally Posted By NathanL:
Chartered a flight from Baton Rouge, LA to South Bend, IN a number of years ago to watch LSU play Notre Dame. It wasn't astronomical and we were able to fly up the afternoon of the game and fly home that night.


That'd be about a $4,500~ish trip.

eta to clarify : if we were doing something of similar distance in the type of aircraft the company I work for owns. Last time this subject came up it turned into a major shit fest and dick waving contest typical of pilots, egotistical rich people, and arfcom GD.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 8:01:03 PM EST
Expensive?

Define "expensive"
5 hour flight time...each way
I assume you would like a return flight?

Light Jet
Citation Ultra, Beechjet 400A, Learjet 31
$1,950 - $2,400

Midsize Jet
Hawker 800XP, Learjet 60, Citation Excel
$2,650 - $3,300

Super Midsize Jet
Gulfstream 200, Falcon 50, Citation X
$3,950 - $4,600

Large Cabin Jet I
Gulfstream II, Gulfstream III, Challenger 601
$4,200 - $4,850

Large Cabin Jet II
Gulfstream IV, Gulfstream V, Legacy
$5,200 - $7,600


Hourly rates do not include positioning, landing fees, fuel surcharge and catering. Federal excise tax of 7.5%, or comparable international fee, not included
Taxi Time is billed at 12 minutes per leg in addition to actual flight time



Link Posted: 11/14/2012 8:04:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By luvpilot:
Expensive?

Define "expensive"
5 hour flight time...each way
I assume you would like a return flight?

Light Jet
Citation Ultra, Beechjet 400A, Learjet 31
$1,950 - $2,400

Midsize Jet
Hawker 800XP, Learjet 60, Citation Excel
$2,650 - $3,300

Super Midsize Jet
Gulfstream 200, Falcon 50, Citation X
$3,950 - $4,600

Large Cabin Jet I
Gulfstream II, Gulfstream III, Challenger 601
$4,200 - $4,850

Large Cabin Jet II
Gulfstream IV, Gulfstream V, Legacy
$5,200 - $7,600


Hourly rates do not include positioning, landing fees, fuel surcharge and catering. Federal excise tax of 7.5%, or comparable international fee, not included
Taxi Time is billed at 12 minutes per leg in addition to actual flight time





Hire this dude.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 8:07:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By safes2small:
The most cost effective way I've seen to do a flight or two is to buy a flex card, jet card or such. Basically you are buying a block of hours. 10-25-50-100. The size of the jet will greatly effect cost. For a smaller jet 6-8 passenger count on at least 2.5k an hr.


Wait til you see how many of your "hours" are used up in fees. A 25 hour card might get you 12 hours of flight. Cards may be the worst way to go.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 8:15:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Martel_C:
Originally Posted By safes2small:
The most cost effective way I've seen to do a flight or two is to buy a flex card, jet card or such. Basically you are buying a block of hours. 10-25-50-100. The size of the jet will greatly effect cost. For a smaller jet 6-8 passenger count on at least 2.5k an hr.


Wait til you see how many of your "hours" are used up in fees. A 25 hour card might get you 12 hours of flight. Cards may be the worst way to go.

Good point. It also depends on the airports you're flying to/from. I know guys that have spent over 2 hours circling SFO because of fog or sat on the runway in Dallas waiting on thunderstorms to pass that wiped-out a big chunk of their hours for nothing. A former coworker and his sales team flies private from LA to Phoenix once a month, and it's much more cost effective.z
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:08:25 PM EST

Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:15:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By safes2small:
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.


Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:17:25 PM EST
yeah. it costs a shitload

it is easier to manage if you do it often, and go fractional (jet timeshare), but that makes no sense for a one-off
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:38:22 PM EST
Why not get a quote from a charter broker? Spinnaker or Sentient for example.
FlexJet and Flight Options are the two main competitors of NetJets and are usually a little cheaper when it comes to Jet cards or fractional solutions.

http://www.spinnakerair.com/
http://www.sentient.com/
http://flexjet.com/
http://www.flightoptions.com/index.php
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:38:38 PM EST


Hey, how did you get that on the plane?

Oh wait, that's a military charter, isn't it?

Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:50:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 10:11:43 PM EST by USP45Tim]

Link Posted: 11/14/2012 9:53:32 PM EST
An example from our local north central Iowa air service to Boston is:

Piper Navajo 6 passengers
Range 800 miles
Distance - 2232 miles
Cost - $7881
One way flight time - 5 hours 20 minutes

Quote doesn't include fuel stops. Based on max range, 3 legs to destination.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:18:04 AM EST
Based on our per hour charge 2200 per hour (2years ago) a learjet 35 would take 8.7 hours round trip (you will pay for round trip even if you are only one way) ball park about 20 grand. Five to six hundred per day for the crew to wait on you. Oh, you want catering too??heh,heh.... Should have seen our Falcon bill going to Shanghai from Atlanta earlier this year....22 hours one way and it costs a lot more to operate than a lear.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:23:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/15/2012 4:40:54 AM EST by DriftPunch]
Circa '99, we did 11 grandish on a 4 passenger jet (smallest I've ever seen) from Richmond to Chicago and back. Even though the fuselage was like a small diameter highway culvert, that thing was awesome. Bonus points given when in a hold in the taxi pattern, they shut off the engines to conserve fuel.

This was with Million-air.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:38:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By Blackout762:
Originally Posted By safes2small:
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.




Yet thousands of chartered flights are flown everyday in anything from a piper Cherokee to a G6 to a BBJ......
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:44:08 AM EST
My family and another family chartered a small turboprop to fly from SE NC to the Bahamas a few years back. There were 7 or 8 of us, plus luggage, several large coolers, and two 10' board bags and I think it ended up being around $8k round trip. That was 2005 or 2006.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:46:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By Brassoe:
An example from our local north central Iowa air service to Boston is:

Piper Navajo 6 passengers
Range 800 miles
Distance - 2232 miles
Cost - $7881
One way flight time - 5 hours 20 minutes

Quote doesn't include fuel stops. Based on max range, 3 legs to destination.


um...why?
slow, expensive, two stops...
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:50:26 AM EST
My super model wife usually handles it.

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Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:51:26 AM EST
What type of airplane? Prop or jet?
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 4:58:38 AM EST
Originally Posted By zoom:
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
You don't have to charter it if you own one. Dude this is Arfcom .

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

Don't be insensitive. His jet might be undergoing maintenance or maybe he let a friend borrow it.

But seriously, at work we needed to get ten people from Seattle to San Jose for a meeting. The President knew we would save time with the TSA BS both ways so he had me look into it. IIRC, It was $42k round trip. We ended-up flying commercial.

If you're thinking about flying private more than a few times, Net Jets (http://www.netjets.com/) can be a good deal. I have several coworkers that bought the 25- or 50-hour cards, and two friends that work for them. IIRC the 25-hour card was $130k.z


NetJets can fuck themselves with a rusty pole. Until that cock smoke Warren Buffet dies they will not see a dime of my business again.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 5:01:33 AM EST
I have travelled on a private chartered jet (a couple times) but I didn't have to pick up the tab
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 5:06:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Nutro:
Originally Posted By luvpilot:
Expensive?

Define "expensive"
5 hour flight time...each way
I assume you would like a return flight?

Light Jet
Citation Ultra, Beechjet 400A, Learjet 31
$1,950 - $2,400

Midsize Jet
Hawker 800XP, Learjet 60, Citation Excel
$2,650 - $3,300

Super Midsize Jet
Gulfstream 200, Falcon 50, Citation X
$3,950 - $4,600

Large Cabin Jet I
Gulfstream II, Gulfstream III, Challenger 601
$4,200 - $4,850

Large Cabin Jet II
Gulfstream IV, Gulfstream V, Legacy
$5,200 - $7,600


Hourly rates do not include positioning, landing fees, fuel surcharge and catering. Federal excise tax of 7.5%, or comparable international fee, not included
Taxi Time is billed at 12 minutes per leg in addition to actual flight time



Hire this dude.

Last time I chartered a plane was in 2009. This is about what I paid.
If you have 4-5 people, it's really not much more expensive than paying for a last minute flight. You can have someone drive you out to the plane, no security hassle. Plus there's no waiting for connecting flights –– great if you are flying into a small town.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 5:10:20 AM EST
The company my brother in law flies for charges $4500 an hour and thats for a Hawker 850, which seats 8-9. He has had a lot of interesting passengers.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:06:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Based on our per hour charge 2200 per hour (2years ago) a learjet 35 would take 8.7 hours round trip (you will pay for round trip even if you are only one way) ball park about 20 grand. Five to six hundred per day for the crew to wait on you. Oh, you want catering too??heh,heh.... Should have seen our Falcon bill going to Shanghai from Atlanta earlier this year....22 hours one way and it costs a lot more to operate than a lear.


Flightworks quoted me $495,000 round trip from Atlanta to Bangkok in 2008 (24 hr layover). Since it was only for four pax, I sent them first class via Korean Air.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:12:49 PM EST



That aircraft looks familiar, which airline was that?

Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:15:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/15/2012 3:16:40 PM EST by Boost3dx]
Almost flew to San Jose from Las Vegas a few weeks ago on a chartered jet using Jet Suite's SuiteDeal to go pick up my friends new car. I think its $500 for the whole plane, up to 4 people.

http://www.jetsuite.com/suitedeal

They do it every week or so, they'll have a special and you can grab one of the planes if you are fast enough. We booked our flight and then it got canceled. I was so bummed, we went from 1st class VIP travelling to fucking Southwest just like that.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:15:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By safes2small:
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.

Our company has a couple jets. Operating costs are ridiculous.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:20:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:

Last time this subject came up it turned into a major shit fest and dick waving contest typical of pilots, egotistical rich people, and arfcom GD.


Sig line material right there.

TC

Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:24:00 PM EST
Many years ago when I was learning to fly, they had a Lear in Little Rock you could rent for $1200 an hour wet !

I bet it has tripled since then .
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:27:27 PM EST
Yes.

Figure about $5K
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:31:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Makarov:
I have travelled on a private chartered jet (a couple times) but I didn't have to pick up the tab

That's the best way (duh). I've been lucky one of the companies we do business with has 2 planes and I have ridden with them several times over the years to away LSU football games. But that company has been bought out now so that ticket looks to be used up now.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:32:23 PM EST


lots o green a shaved heads
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:32:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By safes2small:
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.

Truth. I had to ask. I looked. I cannot afford it.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:34:07 PM EST
I did it from Memphis to Springfield, MO. (It was an emergency and a long story)

Costs about $3,500 round trip and it was a quick roundtrip. Jet was made in the 70's and no luxury to it.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:34:15 PM EST
Nope, always blew my stash on hooker and blow.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:36:16 PM EST
My company recently chartered a plane to fly ~5 people from Grand Island, Nebraska to Sioux City, Iowa. There and back in the same business day. Cost about $4,000.

For perspective, to drive it takes about 3 1/2 hours each way.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:38:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By flyguync:


Hey, how did you get that on the plane?

Oh wait, that's a military charter, isn't it?


Could be the same way I did. I forgot about the folder I keep in my laptop bag. TSA missed it, flying out of Cleveland.

I noticed it while I was on the plane, and pulling my laptop out of the bag. I mailed it home (it's an $80 knife) when I got to Dallas.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:38:49 PM EST
Never chartered one, but I've flown on one four times.
Pretty cool way to travel if you can afford it!
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 3:39:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By Blackout762:
Originally Posted By safes2small:
If you have to ask... You cannot afford it.




Yet thousands of chartered flights are flown everyday in anything from a piper Cherokee to a G6 to a BBJ......
Thousands of people can afford it, and don't need to ask.

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