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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:22:47 AM EDT
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how did he get caught?
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:26:00 AM EDT
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I think the reluctance has more to do with somebody they dont know on thier land.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:27:19 AM EDT
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DOH!
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:29:22 AM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:34:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Title has fuckall to do with article. Title has everything to do with the article. Landowner gives permission in good faith. Permitted party breaks his word and contract with landowner. Landowner never gives permission to anyone to hunt his land again. Happens around here all the time. Poachers, thieves, people who are supposed to be hunting only tearing up property with ATVs, I could go on and on. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:34:42 AM EDT
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My mom has 240 acres in VA that includes a couple big ponds and about a third mile of riverbank. She quit allowing hunters and fishermen to use the property because too many wouldn't pack out what they brought in,just disrespectfully leaving piles of trash,unattended fires,half butcherd carcasses etc... Pretty sad really
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:35:06 AM EDT
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Quoted: I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:36:10 AM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. Actually, the numbers are somewhat reversed. 10% are good, it's the 90% you have to watch out for. 
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:36:56 AM EDT
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Am I in before the we should hunt for free crowd ?
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:36:57 AM EDT
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Title has fuckall to do with article. Title has everything to do with the article. Landowner gives permission in good faith. Permitted party breaks his word and contract with landowner. Landowner never gives permission to anyone to hunt his land again. Happens around here all the time. Poachers, thieves, people who are supposed to be hunting only tearing up property with ATVs, I could go on and on. You're right. I misread it. 
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:39:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: Am I in before the we should hunt for free crowd ? People here actually say that?  |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:40:32 AM EDT
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Am I in before the we should hunt for free crowd ? People here actually say that? You must not go to the HTF . They infest the place . |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:41:20 AM EDT
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I've never wondered why.
People don't treat other's property with respect very often. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:42:43 AM EDT
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We only let family hunt on our farms and VERY close family friends that we have known for ages.
Everyone else can fuck off. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:45:11 AM EDT
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I've never wondered why. People don't treat other's property with respect very often. This topic often comes up around hog hunting. Said hunters think they should hunt for free cause they "are doing the owner a favor" . Now, hogs are a pain. They knock down feeders, tear up round bales and mess up stock tanks, but I've never heard of a hog using the tractor for target practice, dumping old furniture or stealing cattle guards
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:47:27 AM EDT
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happens out here all the time. Its because of these people that dont have respect for the land or the people who own the land is why I am having a hard time finding a place to upland hunt this year.
I hunted a guys property off and on for several years. Last year someone shot up the land owners new 500K harvester using it as a back stop to sight in for deer season. Someone else used the house he lets the farm hands stay in as a target. According to the owner the guy who shot it thought it was just an old tractor that was left to sit. So no more hunting on his land for anyone. Do I blame the guy for not letting people on to hunt? Not one bit |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:49:13 AM EDT
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We only let family hunt on our farms and VERY close family friends that we have known for ages. Everyone else can fuck off. It's a shame but I am close to this. If you meet me or come help out , you get to come on out . If posted in numerous threads in the hometown forum over the years . People on there offer to come out and work and treat your land with respect , When you post about something you need done it's crickets. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:53:59 AM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:55:01 AM EDT
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I've never wondered why. People don't treat other's property with respect very often. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:55:46 AM EDT
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I've never wondered why. People don't treat other's property with respect very often. This topic often comes up around hog hunting. Said hunters think they should hunt for free cause they "are doing the owner a favor" . Now, hogs are a pain. They knock down feeders, tear up round bales and mess up stock tanks, but I've never heard of a hog using the tractor for target practice, dumping old furniture or stealing cattle guards 
That's because you ain't seen a hog on meth. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 11:59:45 AM EDT
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I don't allow anybody outside of a few family members and neighbors (we have agreements allowing each other free passage across property lines for hunting/hiking/etc) on my land. I don't want the liability of people I don't know out there fucking around or trashing the place. I had to put up a gate a few weeks ago. I guess the no trespassing sign was not enough.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:00:03 PM EDT
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It's pretty sad that some assholes have to go and ruin it for everybody, but that's the way it is these days. If you want to hunt, you have to either buy your land, know somebody, or take your chances with the assholes and retards on public land. It's really a shame, IMO.
Really though, how hard is it to clean up your shit and not be an asshole? My old man would get really pissed if I littered, and he always made me make sure that a campsite was cleaner than when we got there. When I was out west for a week, I picked up a few soda bottles and stuff that got dropped 20 feet from a shit can. Seriously people, there's a can right there, but you just drop it and walk on? Those motherfuckers need to be shot.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:02:32 PM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron.
I don't even have a sister. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:06:06 PM EDT
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And then there are scores of hunters who hunt ethically. I used to hunt my neighbor's land. I gave him half of each kill...packaged.
He eventually got in a financial bind and clearcut the woods, but I never gave him a reason to complain. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:06:55 PM EDT
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" A 31-year-old Franklin,Texas man accused of illegally hunting white-tailed deer was among several people indicted this week by a Brazos County grand jury. Jonathan Alan Buckley was indicted on two felony charges of taking wildlife resources without consent. Each count is punishable by up to two years in prison. Buckley told game wardens he shot four deer in November 2010 on Terrell Farms property. He told authorities he had permission to hunt on the land, but when they interviewed the landowner he said Buckley was only allowed to hunt hogs and coyotes on the property and agreed to press charges against him " . That seems a little slim for a felony. Surely there are some out-and-out trespassers of whom examples might be made. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:07:26 PM EDT
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some land owners are just as bad if not worse
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:09:50 PM EDT
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I've never wondered why. People don't treat other's property with respect very often. I was raised to believe that if I treated other people's property the way I treat my own, I was not being respectful enough of others. I'll put my own tools away dirty, but not borrowed tools. I'll park my car with the needle on Empty and a flat spare, but yours will always be returned with 4 good tires and a full tank, or cash tendered to take care of that. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:10:27 PM EDT
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We lease 3500 acres up in the Texas Panhandle (Please send rain!) & we treat the place as if it was our own. We've had a couple of issues with poachers & thieves. It is a great idea to be in regular contact with the game warden in your area. Treat the place as if you are a guest, because you are..
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:11:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. I would believe you. I know too many landowners that have issues to doubt. What's even worse are the folks that live in areas in which the sherriff/game wardens do nothing. Some people are under the impression living in the country is utopian but that's not always the case. Check out the problems people have on the homesteading forums. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:11:30 PM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron.
I don't even have a sister. Well your aunt sure favors you. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:12:47 PM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron. I once went to a public shooting spot in NC that was below an elevated railroad track. When a freight train came by every Cletus there opened up on the cars with a volley of .22 and SKS fire. No,I didn't go back. *We* are our own worst enemy sometimes. Yeah,there were plenty of executed washing machines and microwaves about too. It's a shame. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:14:32 PM EDT
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Not closing gates, taking 4x4s across planted fields, thinking a horse is a deer, leaving shot beer cans everywhere..... and on and on....
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:14:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron. Me thinks you don't talk to a lot of hunters or are just talking out your ass to stir up shit. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:15:03 PM EDT
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some land owners are just as bad if not worse Wonder why ? |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:16:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Am I in before the we should hunt for free crowd ? People here actually say that? Yes. It especially comes up on the hogs are pests threads. It's all the landowners fault. Even ones charging a nominal fee should be burned in hell. Of course these threads usuallys start out discussing paid hog hunts, which are sometimes ridiculously priced. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:19:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: I think the 10% just trash it so bad, it looks like 90% did. Quoted: Quoted: I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. Actually, the numbers are somewhat reversed. 10% are good, it's the 90% you have to watch out for. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:20:29 PM EDT
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Not closing gates, taking 4x4s across planted fields, thinking a hores is a deer, leaving shot beer cans everywhere..... and on and on.... I have a better one than that. A group of hunters stole a cattle guard. Not some little 8' thing, but one put in by the oil company to access their wells. It was made of well casing and big enough for two well trucks to pass side by side, placed over a 6' diameter culvert. Bastards came up one weekend, cut it apart with a torch and hauled it off for scrap. Damn thing weighed almost 4 tons.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:21:02 PM EDT
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I used to ask around for places to hunt in KY. Oddly I got the same story about how some hunter shot a dog off of the porch so no hunters are allowed now.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:22:51 PM EDT
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I know land owners that have had cattle shot.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:25:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've never wondered why. People don't treat other's property with respect very often. This. Ask me how I know. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:26:06 PM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron. Me thinks you don't talk to a lot of hunters or are just talking out your ass to stir up shit. I don't hang out with hunters, my only interaction with them is at the range or Bass Pro/Cabelas. Is there some place where the non-retarded ones hide? |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:30:05 PM EDT
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I work outside of Franklin, I can't wait to ask my coworkers if they know this dude.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:30:11 PM EDT
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I don't hang out with hunters, my only interaction with them is at the range or Bass Pro/Cabelas. Is there some place where the non-retarded ones hide? You can usually find them hunting and shooting on their land where they don't have to deal with idiots. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:30:32 PM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron. I once went to a public shooting spot in NC that was below an elevated railroad track. When a freight train came by every Cletus there opened up on the cars with a volley of .22 and SKS fire. No,I didn't go back. *We* are our own worst enemy sometimes. Yeah,there were plenty of executed washing machines and microwaves about too. It's a shame. The railroad just needs to put a couple of 240s with a protective plate around it in two of the cars. Train rolls by, employees manning 240s open door, cut loose with blanks. If any of the dumbasses stand their ground and shoot back, bullet proof plates protect employee. Do it a few times and paint "NEXT TIME IT WILL BE LIVE ROUNDS" in big red letters on the car the last two times the train does a "drive by". Cletuses will spread the word around. 
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:32:17 PM EDT
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My land, my rules. If i don't know you and haven't given you permission to be on my land, then I'm sure as hell not happy if you're stalking across it with a loaded weapon.
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:33:14 PM EDT
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I could tell you stories about why we don't allow hunters outside of the family, but the usual suspects would not believe me. I would. Most hunters are great, but 10% will trash the place, poach, and generally fuck shit up. And it's usually these same idiot yokels that get public ranges shut down. I've seen more stupid shit done with deer rifles and pa's shotgun than all other weapons combined. I 100% hate hunters. I have yet to meet one that wasn't a complete white trash buck toothed sister fucking moron. Me thinks you don't talk to a lot of hunters or are just talking out your ass to stir up shit. I don't hang out with hunters, my only interaction with them is at the range or Bass Pro/Cabelas. Is there some place where the non-retarded ones hide? That's like saying all the tactical guys are just like Tex Grubner. There are some idiots out there, but most are fine. Only the idiots stick out. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:33:23 PM EDT
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I don't hang out with hunters, my only interaction with them is at the range or Bass Pro/Cabelas. Is there some place where the non-retarded ones hide? You can usually find them hunting and shooting on their land where they don't have to deal with idiots. Fair enough. I don't doubt there are good ones, I've only encountered the range destroying unsafe kind. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:37:34 PM EDT
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We only let family hunt on our farms and VERY close family friends that we have known for ages. Everyone else can fuck off. It's a shame but I am close to this. If you meet me or come help out , you get to come on out . If posted in numerous threads in the hometown forum over the years . People on there offer to come out and work and treat your land with respect , When you post about something you need done it's crickets. What part of TX are you in? |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:39:15 PM EDT
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We only let family hunt on our farms and VERY close family friends that we have known for ages. Everyone else can fuck off. It's a shame but I am close to this. If you meet me or come help out , you get to come on out . If posted in numerous threads in the hometown forum over the years . People on there offer to come out and work and treat your land with respect , When you post about something you need done it's crickets. What part of TX are you in? Hill country. |
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Posted: 8/7/2011 12:44:04 PM EDT
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Am I in before the we should hunt for free crowd ? People here actually say that? You must not go to the HTF . They infest the place . Ok guys i'm on your side (to a point) but you're misrepresenting the argument. Landowner bitches that hogs are tearing up his property. There are various companies who can take care of the problem (I used to be one of them) but i'm going to charge you $$$ for my expense and time for taking care of your hog problem. x amount per hog or by the pound, various ways to charge the landowner for this service. Landowner says "What??? No WAY! I charge people to hunt on my property! Those things are worth money!" Either your hogs are a resource to cherish and sell, or they are a pest that you need help getting rid of. This "both ways" stuff is what people in the HTF bitch about. |
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