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Posted: 12/17/2003 10:00:32 AM EDT
They'd probably be appalled if the even saw Red Dawn

Monday's Frankfurter Allgemeine -- the arts and letters section (Feuilleton) -- includes a column by Andreas Platthaus about the use of the term "Wolverine" in the assault. The article features a photo of the actor who played Wolverine is "The X-Men," with the caption: "Saddam's hiding place carried his name: Wolverine, from the movie, "X-Men."

It's not online that I found, but excerpted here.

Predictably, Platthaus goes on and on about Wolverine and the X-Men as being metaphors for America's post September 11 existence. Excerpts and my rocky translation:
[Wolverine's] battered, and yet still a tough fighter, and his triumph is certain, for he possesses supernatural powers of recuperation -- the ideal embodiment for America post September 11.
and . . .
You could interpret the codeword chosen for Saddam's hideaway as reflecting a bitter cynicism. For Wolverine's rage and brutality are consequences of his super powers, which were first given to him through American help.

volokh.com/2003_12_14_volokh_archive.html#107163127366226897
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 10:08:02 AM EDT
It didn't?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 10:13:42 AM EDT
What a dumbass. Eh, what do you expect? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 10:16:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By John91498: It didn't?
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You haven't seen Red Dawn?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 10:48:46 AM EDT
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Eurotrash[puke] Aren't they the same people who wash their arses in a drinking fountain after they shit? [brick]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:08:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raven: with the caption: "Saddam's hiding place carried his name: Wolverine, from the [red]movie[/red], "X-Men."
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X-men was a movie ?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:12:34 AM EDT
Aren't these the same people that celebrate Jerry Lewis Day.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:20:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:22:30 AM EDT
I absolutely loved the names when I heard them..... operation--"Red Dawn" groups--"Wolverine One" and "Wolverine Two" You have got to love the guys making up these names...sure products of an '80's youth. I was laughing when I told my wife about them. Then there was the blown out tank picture with "Wolverine" written on the side, just like the movie. There must be a lot of fans of that movie over there right now.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:29:26 AM EDT
Weeeeeeeellllll, if I remember correctly (can't be arsed to find the DVD), the movies starts with a few captions, like "NATO is falling apart" and "In Germany, the Socialists and the Green Party have been elected to govern the country", or words to that effect. Now look at the current German government...
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:31:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ANGST:
Originally Posted By raven: with the caption: "Saddam's hiding place carried his name: Wolverine, from the [red]movie[/red], "X-Men."
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X-men was a movie ?
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Jesus Christ, man! There have been [b]TWO[/b] X-Maen movies!
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:31:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kar98: Weeeeeeeellllll, if I remember correctly (can't be arsed to find the DVD), the movies starts with a few captions, like "NATO is falling apart" and "In Germany, the Socialists and the Green Party have been elected to govern the country", or words to that effect. Now look at the current German government...
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Hmmm would life be imitating art?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:36:54 AM EDT
somebody please repost the pic of the burnt out tank with wolverines on it.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:39:57 AM EDT
ok im lost. I hadnt heard anything about a "wolverine" in saddams capture until now, i watched the movie "red dawn" (although its been awhile) and im still lost. care to explain?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:41:09 AM EDT
Given a break, maybe those folks have never seen the movie Red Dawn.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:49:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FRO: somebody please repost the pic of the burnt out tank with wolverines on it.
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[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=766&iGalleryUnq=32&iImageUnq=20082[/img]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 11:53:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WolfAR15: ok im lost. I hadnt heard anything about a "wolverine" in saddams capture until now, i watched the movie "red dawn" (although its been awhile) and im still lost. care to explain?
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When General Sanchez briefed the press on Sunday morning, he said the operation was code-named Red Dawn. I laughed my ass off at that, because it was a reference to the most right-wing (and first PG-13 movie ever) flick of the 80's's. The objectoves of the operation were to search two locations, code-named Wolverine 1 and Wolverine 2. That's when I really lost it, because the teenage guerrilla group in the movie Red Dawn called themselves "Wolverines" after their high school mascot. There was no doubt whoever planned the mission to capture Saddam Hussein was an unapologetic fan of John Milius's film, Red Dawn. [:D] But the Europeans, who have no pop-culture reference to that masterpiece, assumed it referred to the X-Men superhero Wolverine, who they only knew because of the blockbuster Hollywood movie their superior culture allowed in to pollutte their refinded, cultured minds.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 12:01:13 PM EDT
Am I the only one who was just a tiny bit taken aback by the apparent fact that the [b]targets[/b] were called "Wolverines?"
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 12:06:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FLAL1A: Am I the only one who was just a tiny bit taken aback by the apparent fact that the [b]targets[/b] were called "Wolverines?"
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Yes; because Team W1 was looking at Location W1, and Team W2 checked out Location W2.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 12:41:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kar98:
Originally Posted By FLAL1A: Am I the only one who was just a tiny bit taken aback by the apparent fact that the [b]targets[/b] were called "Wolverines?"
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Yes; because Team W1 was looking at Location W1, and Team W2 checked out Location W2.
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Thanks. I feel much better now.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 1:05:56 PM EDT
Afrekanski Baveon...
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 1:10:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Originally Posted By John91498: It didn't?
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You haven't seen Red Dawn?
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[:D]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 1:33:33 PM EDT
I personally hope that when they go in for the kill on Osama, a fitting operation name should be something like... Irene! Anybody else have some good titles for the operation to kill/capture Osama?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 2:19:19 PM EDT
From the Volokh blog:
How many prior operations could have captured Saddam, but didn't? We may have been discussing "Operation Tron" or "Operation Breakfast Club" if earlier raids had been successful . . . .
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Link Posted: 12/17/2003 3:02:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By guns762: I personally hope that when they go in for the kill on Osama, a fitting operation name should be something like... Irene! Anybody else have some good titles for the operation to kill/capture Osama?
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Operation.... Dirty Dancing North and South Donnie Darko The Outsiders Point Break Ghost Youngblood City of Joy Road House Next of Kin...... You get the idea.[;)]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 3:09:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By guns762: Anybody else have some good titles for the operation to kill/capture Osama?
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Barbarossa Fall Weiss Market Garden Sea Lion Weserübung Wacht am Rhein Winter Tempest You get the idea ;)
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 3:49:30 PM EDT
Of course the CG may be a UMich grad. How about Operation Big Jake?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 3:52:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/17/2003 3:55:34 PM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
Originally Posted By Kar98:
Originally Posted By guns762: Anybody else have some good titles for the operation to kill/capture Osama?
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Barbarossa Fall Weiss Market Garden Sea Lion Weserübung Wacht am Rhein Winter Tempest You get the idea ;)
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Masher Torch Fledermaus Apache Snow Zulu Dawn Ceader Falls Junction City Overlord. or better GOTTERDAMMERUNG
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 4:02:35 PM EDT
I think Operation Sixteen Candles was scrubbed in favor to Red Dawn. They're saving Operation Karate Kid for Osama.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 4:03:50 PM EDT
Operation Dinner Out.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 4:26:50 PM EDT
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Ok, only you baby boomers out there will get this one: Operation A Goofy Game For Dopey Doctors (Ya know, like the commercial.... oh, forget it!) [:D] Makes you wonder what the Nazi high command thought about all of those Mickeys, Donalds, Popeyes and naked ladies painted on bombers during WWII. Bet they spent a lot of time trying to figure that out. Didn't one of the Luftwaffe aces have Felix the Cat painted on his ME-109? Edited for spelling.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 4:34:40 PM EDT
Operation "DUNE"
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 4:46:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 73wcf4440: Ok, only you baby boomers out there will get this one: Operation A Goofy Game For Dopey Doctors (Ya know, like the commercial.... oh, forget it!) [:D] Makes you wonder what the Nazi high command thought about all of those Mickeys, Donalds, Popeyes and naked ladies painted on bombers during WWII. Bet they spent a lot of time trying to figure that out. Didn't one of the Luftwaffe aces have Felix the Cat painted on his ME-109? Edited for spelling.
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Don't know about Felix but Adolf Galland had Mickey Mouse on the nose of his.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 4:57:36 PM EDT
Saddam was captured?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 5:03:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kar98:
Originally Posted By guns762: Anybody else have some good titles for the operation to kill/capture Osama?
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Barbarossa Fall Weiss Market Garden Sea Lion Weserübung Wacht am Rhein Winter Tempest You get the idea ;)
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Didn't all of those operations ultimately lead to failure and the subjegation of their perpetrators to nearly 60 years of occupation?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 5:19:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By osprey21:
Originally Posted By FRO: somebody please repost the pic of the burnt out tank with wolverines on it.
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[url]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=766&iGalleryUnq=32&iImageUnq=20082[/url]
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!­!! I'm gonna grab my AK and go watch Red Dawn on DVD right now! God Bless America and her troops!
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 5:26:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack: Operation Dinner Out.
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Great movie.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:03:12 PM EDT
[Nerd Hat] Err according to the story americans didn't give wolverine his power. I do believe it was a german scientist in canada. [/Nerd Hat]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:04:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Valkyre: Saddam was captured?
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Were you in a rats hole too?
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:17:53 PM EDT
Operation Pig Roast
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:27:05 PM EDT
For OBL how about Operation Porky Pig- TTTHHats all folks!
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:34:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Max_Power:
Originally Posted By guns762: I personally hope that when they go in for the kill on Osama, a fitting operation name should be something like... Irene! Anybody else have some good titles for the operation to kill/capture Osama?
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Operation.... Dirty Dancing North and South Donnie Darko The Outsiders Point Break Ghost Youngblood City of Joy Road House Next of Kin...... You get the idea.[;)]
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Operation: Skate town USA Operation: To Won Foo: Thanks for everything. Julie Newmar. [:D]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:44:41 PM EDT
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By capturing saddam GWB effectivly avenged his father. When I heard the names of the ops and teams, I pictured Bush Sr standing behind a fence yelling at GWB...AVENGE ME! AVENGE ME!!!
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:55:17 PM EDT
Porky's [:D]
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 7:57:13 PM EDT
Operation "Unintended Consequences" Teams "Henry" "Bowman"
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 12:14:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
Originally Posted By 73wcf4440: Ok, only you baby boomers out there will get this one: Operation A Goofy Game For Dopey Doctors (Ya know, like the commercial.... oh, forget it!) [:D] Makes you wonder what the Nazi high command thought about all of those Mickeys, Donalds, Popeyes and naked ladies painted on bombers during WWII. Bet they spent a lot of time trying to figure that out. Didn't one of the Luftwaffe aces have Felix the Cat painted on his ME-109? Edited for spelling.
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Don't know about Felix but Adolf Galland had Mickey Mouse on the nose of his.
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In the Pacific Theater, a B-24 named "The Dragon and it's Tail" was adorned with a HUGE painting covering almost the entire length of the fuselage. It depicted a Dragon and a naked, well endowed woman in a suggestive position. During the war, the flight crew reported that the aircraft was a tremendous distraction for the Japanese pilots. "The Dragon and it's Tail" ,one of the last (if not THE last) flyable B-24s, receintly paid a visit to a local airport for an airshow. Needless to say it STILL gets a lot of attention. I took a picture, but I dare not post it here.....
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 3:33:29 AM EDT
How uncultured, how uncouth are these Europeans!
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 10:07:11 AM EDT
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Ok, I'm getting pelted by IMs for the pic. I saw THAT coming a mile a way.... Here's the official web site for the organization that owns the aircraft: [url=http://www.collingsfoundation.org/]The Collings Foundation[/url]
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