Extremely long and convoluted article about the "hacked" election
Link to full article at esquire

Here are some of the highlights:


This shit article and horrible analysis is a classic example of misdirection, critical gaps in information and logical fallacy. What is particularly dishonest and bad are the half truths. It even starts with the title of the article claiming that the election was hacked.

No, an election wasn't hacked, a few members of a political party had their emails hacked, and the truth about their corruption exposed.

But Esquire goes to great lengths to confuse you into believing that the election was hacked. They spill thousands of words discussing cyber actions and different world/cyber events between the U.S., Russia, Putin, NSA, FSB, and other entities. Yet they do not provide any real evidence or link that definitively connects events to each other. They do this in the hopes that the reader will subconsciously connect it all and believe that an election was really hacked, when it wasn't.

The "fake news" Pizza gate has WAY more convincing data than these clowns with their fake "hacked election" story. They don't even mention that wiki leaks has denied that Russia is the source. There's no discussion in the media that the source could be a disgruntled NSA employee, another country, or another hacker group.

Lastly, there's no discussion in our lying media about the so called damages of the hacking, or how the hacking resulted in an unfair election. If these hacks were Russia, what difference does it make? All they did was expose the truth, the same truth a good media should have, and would have exposed and reported if they did their jobs. It's a sad day when a foriegn government has to be the watchdog of corrupt American officials, and our corrupt media has sour grapes afterwards, and attempts to obfuscate the truth of what has actually occurred.

The hacker/leaker of the emails manipulated the American public and helped sway the election.

They manipulated the public into seeing the truth. They shattered the public's false perception of the Clinton machine. Who hacked/leaked the emails is irrelevant and is a diversion tactic. The content of the emails is what's important.

If Russia did it, then they should be thanked by the American public.

It is likely their emails werent hacked but an insider gave up the emails to wikileaks via oldschool dead drop.

Now claims Russians hacking caused Brexit. "Labour MP claims it's 'highly probable' Russia interfered with Brexit referendum" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/russian-interference-brexit-highly-probable-referendum-hacking-putin-a7472706.html

So secret DNC emails kept on unsecured servers with Obama's blessing were discovered by foreign operatives (maybe the Ruskies?) and exposed the corruption of the DNC, Podesta, Huma, and Clintons.

What exactly is there to be outraged about?

No. You literally cannot be manipulated by the truth. Particularly truths that reveal legitimate manipulations and corruptions.



It is quite impressive what the left does. They have thrown counter accusations of manipulation at Russia, for hacking and revealing the truth. A simple understanding of the word manipulate clearly shows that to be a lie. That the Democrats who would be unfair, unscrupulous and deceiving in their practices are truly manipulators by definition.

If you are in the liberal media, you don't let facts get in the way of your headline.

The new lie is "the election was hacked" (inferring that the election was rigged on Election Day, and Trump is not a legitimate winner or representative).

If the election was rigged, your low information voters don't have to feel like they lost an election, and start wondering why. They just get angrier at the opposition. If the average Hillary voter starts reading into things, beyond headlines, they are in BIG trouble. The last thing the Dems want is their supporters wondering why the entire media and establishment was dead wrong.

So you tell your lie enough times, that it becomes the truth for your easily misled followers.

The left is like a cheating husband who gets angry at the person who busted them for cheating.

Their rationalizations are getting pathetic at this point.

Frankly, I don't care if the Russians did or did not hack.   I just want to know who in Russia to send a thank you note to.  Does anyone have Putins mailing addy?

Ironic that the Democrats are crying foul over this when the conspired to make sure that Sanders did not get the nomination..

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I thought the EU had encouraged it's own demise?  

Great point. I used the word manipulate to highlight the absurdity of the claim of manipulation, since it was simply the truth being revealed to the masses.

Media knows this works, and works well. It really ramped up during reign of the shrub and colin powell's bs on wmd's - and it worked like a freakin charm. Not sure why conservative side suddenly wants to criticize fake news now, they've played this fiddle too.

Biggest? Don't they mean only? Because libs were saying our system had never been compromised prior to this election.

That half the DNC/clinton crime family isn't stamping out "I heart Trump" license olates about now.

What system? The "election system?" How does someone hack several different types of machines in several states, on the same day, and that go unnoticed?

I don't think that is even an accusation here. The only suspected issues with voting machines, were Republican ballots getting switched to Dem ballots in a few states.

Or do you mean the larger compromise of cyber security in the U.S.? The article covers how that is a fairly regular thing, and we suspect even our own NSA has been hacked multiple times.

That doesn't mean that the election was hacked by Russia, and is somehow invalid. Especially when you consider that all the hacks did was reveal information about illicit acts by parties and candidates that should have been revealed by the media.

An interesting read a friend of mine posted

Releasing emails isn't the same as hacking an election. To do that,  they'd have to hack the voting machines. And there is no way they did that. 

Great pains are taken to secure voting machines. Email on the other hand......

The Clintons are corrupt as hell. In this case, any Russian help for Trump was good. Hillary would have set this country back DECADES if it could ever recover at all, buby having total control of the Supreme Court. And baning guns.

There you go.......way to go CIA..............oh sure, "the intelligence agencies would never be used for nefarious purposes............all they care about is the security of the U.S.A......blah, blah, blah.........".

What a crock of shit................we ALL KNEW deep down inside that some fucking scumbag politicians would get into the mix and that there would be some intelligence employees who would join into the bullshit fray so some fucking nefarious purpose could be achieved.

And CALLING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION FRAUDULENT is about as nefarious a purpose that I can come up with.

I knew this would happen............it was as fucking obvious as the nose on my face and I have a big fucking nose.

It's true, the details and evidence of who is behind the DNC email hacks is thin.

The larger issue is that hacking the DNC email, isn't hacking an election. People need to use accurate terminology. The DNC was hacked. A political party was hacked. A major candidates staff was compromised. How were they compromised? Through forced transparency. That is not hacking an election.

Hacking an election, particularly external actors hacking of an election, infers misinformation, or ballot fraud. None of this occurred, and there is no media source I've seen claiming these things occurred behind the fake headline "Russian election hack."

The hacking stories are a setup to he has no mandate for change. He is not a legitimate president because of tainted election process.

They are doing this ON FUCKING PURPOSE for god's sake.

They don't give a fuck about the TRUTH.................they are using that intelligence information for lying, scumbag, nefarious purposes.

Even a two year old back when Clapper was spouting his bullshit would have seen through the utter and complete full of shit statements inferring "oh, all we care about is the security of the U.S.A...............blah, blah, blah................".

FUCKING BULLSHIT right from the start.

Misinformation is the primary approach of socialists. They are superior, and know what's best for you, even if you don't know it. What lies it takes to convince you to go along with their schemes are justifiable in their minds.

Voter fraud is just another lie to them.

Democrats are lying scum and I hate them.

This segment shows that fake news is truly a problem. That fact that we have major media outlets which are in fact working with one side, spewing out propaganda and spinning the analysis.

This is fake news.....

Tainted polls.....
Behind the scenes cooperation with the Clinton campaign....
Not reporting the true corruption of her pay for play scheme and the foundation...

I mean the list goes on... "If you don't pay attention to the news you are uninformed. If you do then you are misinformed..." This story about fake news are the democrats laying a foundation for the future where they can try to take out the alternative news sources that they don't control...

Before the election: "Trump is insane, he's going to start a war"
After the election: Nonstop rhetoric likely start a war with Russia

This Russia bullshit is the last agonized breath of a dying power structure.

It wouldn't be a news story if I left my front door wide open and had somebody steal my tv.

This is all sore loser, no fault in me bull shit. If Clinton and her campaign had followed opsec and infosec procedures the hacks wouldn't have happened. So the hack reinforces why she lost.

First it was Comey's fault, then it was the recount, now it's 'Muh-Russians', next will be the Electors.

Why don't they blame the responsible shitty screeching candidate that they insisted to have represent them, and the process they used to fuck the democrat voters during the primaries?

They exposed these demons for what they are.  If that affected the election, good.  

Next step is the train to hell for these POS's

I still don't know why Russia would prefer Trump over Hillary. Other than maybe they just can't stand her and believe she's too corrupt to even deal with. I still don't see that as being much of a motive to do anything if they could. If were to hold an adversarial relationship with the United States I certainly would prefer Hillary as with Obama she has no real interest in the betterment of her own nation. The military can't stand her. National security would likely remain weak or even worsen with Hillary. The Dems need a motive for all this Russian activity and they just don't have one.

All hail our benevolent Russian overlords...

Stop with your logic...it's all about the FEELZZZ!!!  

I keep wondering if the DNC had the same security as the Clinton email server. If that is the case an 8th grader could have hacked it.

You are 100% correct. There was hacking and a deliberate attempt to influence the election.

No comments section?  How enlightened of them.

"penetrated the DNC servers"

His password was P@ssW0RD

Russia doesn't prefer Trump. Of course they prefer the same weak leadership they've been walking over for 8 years...

But Putin can't admit this, or have anyone thinking this, because he would look weak/afraid of Trump.

Everyday I see new MSM "we were hacked" articles beyond just the 2016 election. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-hack-almost-brought-the-u-s-military-to-its-knees/

Our government, major U.S. corporations, and millions of Americans have been routinely hacked by Russia, China, North Korea, and a whole host of non state organizations. The OPM data breech is the biggest gov example that comes to mind. There was the Sony hack by NK, the Target and Home Depot hacks, and just the other day a billion Yahoo accounts. Yet Obama and the Dems want us to believe that the Russians are the only ones who could have done this? Yeah right. Sure the Russians probably could, but they wouldn't want to.

The existence of long term, state to state, intelligence and military cyber activity back and forth betwixt Russia and the U.S., does not definitively validate the claim that the Russians hacked the Dems emails, and gave that info to wiki leaks (who claim it was not the Russians).

And even if they did... That does not equate to hacking an election.

This type of logic is only slightly more valid than saying "Nigerians scam thousands of gullible Americans out of millions of dollars every year, using their unclassified email accounts. This election is a scam, because Nigerians."

Probably Russia was involved, but they didn't hack any elections.  They released a bunch of boring emails that probably didn't sway anyone.

People that voted for Trump were still going to vote for Trump.

It really bothers me that a lot of MSM and new media sites have completely removed comments from their articles, because the readers can no longer call bullshit on their claims. A lot of people are influenced by the article comments. I noticed that just about every MSM outlet removed them in the past 1-2 years, just about in time for the election. Seemed so coincidental, perhaps not.

No disagreement, I just interpreted my impression of other Russian hacking articles as MSM creating a narrative but as you explained, a closer inspection doesn't validate the narrative.

Yep, that's the kind way of putting it.

You could call it leftist propaganda, MSM stumping for the Dems (as usual), or outright lies.