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Posted: 11/18/2008 11:22:11 AM EDT
Anyone know anything about him, other than he served as a deputy AG under Clinton?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:26:53 AM EDT
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:28:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.


That's just wonderful...
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:30:01 AM EDT
Wow.  With all the former Clinton people he's dealing with, where does the change part come in?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:30:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.


This.  

Eric Holder Jr. is a co-chair of the Obama campaign. Under Janet Reno, he served as deputy attorney general.



In D.C. v. Heller, Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold the handgun ban and claimed that the Department of Justice from Franklin Roosevelt through Bill Clinton had always believed that the Second Amendment does not protect any rights of individuals to own guns for personal use.



After the D.C. Circuit ruled against the handgun ban, Holder complained that the decision “opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets.”


Source: http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Mags/when-obama-wrestles-with-heller.htm

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:31:01 AM EDT
He was a leader in the Marc Rich pardon.case closed-no good at all.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:31:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:35:45 AM EDT by orangelo]
We ain't even seen REAL panic buying yet.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:31:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.





so, what you're really trying to tell us is...





we're fuct.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:31:44 AM EDT
I knew him when he was a judge at D.C. Superior Court.  He was a decent guy; very law-and-order.  He is an anti-gun liberal, but who did you think Obama was going to appoint, Ed Meese?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:35:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Wow.  With all the former Clinton people he's dealing with, where does the change part come in?


THERE IS NO CHANGE.  OBAMA IS GEORGE MCGOVERN WITH A TAN.

No one is listening to me ...
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:35:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By IShootPics:
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.





so, what you're really trying to tell us is...





we're fuct.


Well, uhh, errrrr - YES...

Lock & load boys, the next 4 years are going to be quite a ride.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:37:08 AM EDT
Shit.  Off to buy some fire extinguishers...
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:38:38 AM EDT
That's just great.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:39:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Nimrod1193:
I knew him when he was a judge at D.C. Superior Court.  He was a decent guy


Hey, even Hitler could throw a decent dinner party.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:41:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:43:18 AM EDT by ArmyInfantryVet]
LOL. They might as well be called the Clinton Administration. So much for a "team of rivals". Obama isn't fit to lick Lincoln's asshole.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:41:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MACD:
Shit.  Off to buy some fire extinguishers...



Damn, I thought the exact same thing.
Maybe a sprinkler system.

Way to go Barry, you commy twat, way to use Klintons old cronnies for your Hope and "Change".

fuck this shit.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:41:49 AM EDT
He hates guns period;the answer to BHO and him is to pack the SCOTUS and overturn everything the Constitution means to us.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:43:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
LOL. They might as well be called the Clinton Administration. So much for a "team of rivals" This guy isn't fit to lick Lincoln's asshole.


Now could you tell if he did?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:43:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:45:45 AM EDT
He is the worst pick possible for gun owners....

This mother fucker was beside Janet Reno when Waco went down IIRC...

I do know is is very ANTI gun!!!

Here comes the NIGHT....they are not playing!
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:47:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:50:07 AM EDT by orangelo]
It's obvious who Hussein considers the 'enemy' to be from his cabinet choices. Hint: it isn't Al Qaeda, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, North Korea, or Iran.

BLOAT while you still can, Kristallnacht USA 2009 is coming soon.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:48:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By trwoprod:
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Wow.  With all the former Clinton people he's dealing with, where does the change part come in?


THERE IS NO CHANGE.  OBAMA IS GEORGE MCGOVERN WITH A TAN.

No one is listening to me ...


Yes we are.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:51:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:51:44 AM EDT by Greggy_D]
I'm convinced that part of the deal for Hillary to drop out of the race, was to hire all their old cronies (and her as SoS).
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:18:56 PM EDT
If he has to be confirmed by the Senate, it might be time to send a letter telling your Senator how to keep being gainfully employed.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:22:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By IShootPics:
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.





so, what you're really trying to tell us is...





we're fuct.


If you didn't already know this then you are WAAAAY behind the times man.

Any Clinton Justice Department Appointee is going to be a foaming at the mouth anti-gunner.

Pro-2nd Amendment people are going to be completely shut out of government for at LEAST two years.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:23:09 PM EDT
First question 59 and now this!
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:25:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By IShootPics:
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.





so, what you're really trying to tell us is...





we're fuct.


If you didn't already know this then you are WAAAAY behind the times man.

Any Clinton Justice Department Appointee is going to be a foaming at the mouth anti-gunner.

Pro-2nd Amendment people are going to be completely shut out of government for at LEAST two years.


Nah, you can't be serious. Obama support "COMMON SENSE" gun laws.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:27:59 PM EDT
Well, it's true then.  Obama isn't coming for our guns.  He's going to have his "people" do it for him.  

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:30:22 PM EDT
"Unintended Consequences".

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:30:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By user4574:
Well, it's true then.  Obama isn't coming for our guns.  He's going to have his "people" do it for him.  



If the Libs had it their way, which they won't. The ONLY thing legal would be a musket or a breech loaded, small caliber rifle.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:30:45 PM EDT
In before DLoken tells us Obama doesn't have the votes to push through an anti-gun agenda.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:31:25 PM EDT
As an aside, I cannot understand how any person that is at one time or another a descendent of slaves can be in favor of gun control.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:31:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By user4574:
Well, it's true then.  Obama isn't coming for our guns.  He's going to have his "people" do it for him.  



Exactly!"I will not take your rifle,I will not take your shotgun" His SCOTUS and DOJ will.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:33:20 PM EDT
Color me stupid, where does an AG figure in on the Legislative Process
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:33:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR-180:
As an aside, I cannot understand how any person that is at one time or another a descendent of slaves can be in favor of gun control.


Blacks sold blacks into slavery.Hell of a dichotomy.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:35:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Color me stupid, where does an AG figure in on the Legislative Process


Well for one, the DOJ said they were really only gonna press hard against criminals such as drug dealers with automatic weapons. But of course, they are also going after people who have not committed a single crime, except for having a malfunctioning rifle that is slamfiring.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:36:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Wow.  With all the former Clinton people he's dealing with, where does the change part come in?


The "Change" thing was obviously bullshit. We knew that Bush was a party loyalist and he hired nothing but Reagan and Bush I people. Obama is doing the same thing from the other side. He's just another party loyalist putting Clintonoids with their Hemorrhoids into positions of power. This really isn't much of a surprise. We expected Clinton and Edwards to get appointments. At this point I would be surprised if Kerry and Al Gore got jobs too. In fact, I'd be surprised if Obama DIDN'T try and tap Al Gore for head of the EPA.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:36:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.


This.  

Eric Holder Jr. is a co-chair of the Obama campaign. Under Janet Reno, he served as deputy attorney general.



In D.C. v. Heller, Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold the handgun ban and claimed that the Department of Justice from Franklin Roosevelt through Bill Clinton had always believed that the Second Amendment does not protect any rights of individuals to own guns for personal use.



After the D.C. Circuit ruled against the handgun ban, Holder complained that the decision “opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets.”


Source: http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Mags/when-obama-wrestles-with-heller.htm



It seems to me that most of the really bad stuff about our country can be traced back to FDR.  Well, maybe Hoover.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:37:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By IShootPics:
Originally Posted By AlmostAmos:
Rabid anti-gunner who was all wrapped up in the Elian Gonzalez JBT fiasco.  He was Reno's left-hand thug when it came to anything gun related.





so, what you're really trying to tell us is...





we're fuct.


If you didn't already know this then you are WAAAAY behind the times man.

Any Clinton Justice Department Appointee is going to be a foaming at the mouth anti-gunner.

Pro-2nd Amendment people are going to be completely shut out of government for at LEAST two years.


Nah, you can't be serious. Obama support "COMMON SENSE" gun laws.


Obama Common Sense Gun Control - People don't need guns, it's common sense.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:39:44 PM EDT
Dear Leader is going to screw America so bad, we'll never get our rights back.

Seriously, this sucks so hard it's unbelievable.  They've got majorities in both houses of Congress, nothing to stop them, nothing at all.

I need a good cry.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 12:43:09 PM EDT by orangelo]
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Color me stupid, where does an AG figure in on the Legislative Process


He can do plenty of damage without even bringing Congress or new laws into the picture. All he has to do is instruct his new Attorney General, who believes the individual has no 2A rights, to declare that no firearm is suitable for sporting purposes.

Under the existing 1968 gun control act, NO FIREARM MAY BE IMPORTED, and every shotgun larger than a .410 would instantly become a NFA Destructive Device. No more Glocks, no more HKs, no more Walthers, no more Steyrs, no more Berettas (sorry joe biden), no more Benellis, no more SIGs, no more CZs, NO MORE IMPORTS of any kind. And I hope you got $200 for the tax you owe on each of your destructive devices.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:42:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:42:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:43:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:45:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:55:12 PM EDT
But, but, but Obama respects my 2nd Amendment, he told me so.  
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:56:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Color me stupid, where does an AG figure in on the Legislative Process


The danger of an anti-gun AG is he can push for more anti-gun interpretations of law by the ATF, as well as push "enforcement" (read: bullying) of gun laws.

Cav Arms isn't going to be an anomaly.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:58:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tango7:
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Wow.  With all the former Clinton people he's dealing with, where does the change part come in?



It's not Bush. There. That's your change.


+1,000,000.

That's ALL the Obamabots care about.  I know.  I had a less-than-friendly chat with an Obamabot on facebook after the election.  It's all "anyone but Booooosh."
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:59:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By badfish274:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Color me stupid, where does an AG figure in on the Legislative Process


The danger of an anti-gun AG is he can push for more anti-gun interpretations of law by the ATF, as well as push "enforcement" (read: bullying) of gun laws.

Cav Arms isn't going to be an anomaly.


Not to mention he is from DC and was a ardent support of the handgun ban. Now, imagine an asshole like that being in charge of the DOJ.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:03:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Originally Posted By badfish274:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Color me stupid, where does an AG figure in on the Legislative Process


The danger of an anti-gun AG is he can push for more anti-gun interpretations of law by the ATF, as well as push "enforcement" (read: bullying) of gun laws.

Cav Arms isn't going to be an anomaly.


Not to mention he is from DC and was a ardent support of the handgun ban. Now, imagine an asshole like that being in charge of the DOJ.


Gents, the only thing we can do is pray for the continued health of Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:06:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By badfish274:

Gents, the only thing we can do is pray for the continued health of Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito.


How about all nine? A liberal SCOTUS justice, if you gotta have one, in their 70s or 80s is far preferable to one in their 40s or 50s.

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