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Posted: 1/16/2015 3:51:49 PM EDT
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Always Think Forfeiture laughs at this development.
ETA: Yup... Holder’s decision allows some limited exceptions, including illegal firearms, ammunition, explosives... Fuck 0bama and his cock Holder. «tc2k11» |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 3:55:32 PM EDT
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Good! Too bad I have a feeling that the ONLY reason he did it was because it was most likely disproportionately affecting minorities. <o:p></o:p> |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 3:56:38 PM EDT
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Great news, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 3:58:06 PM EDT
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Good.
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:01:26 PM EDT
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Holder is still a party to murder and treason for his part in Operation Fast and Furious. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:02:00 PM EDT
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:03:14 PM EDT
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Don't fool yourself. This will be selectively applied, just as hate crime laws.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:03:30 PM EDT
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Good! Too bad I have a feeling that the ONLY reason he did it was because it was most likely disproportionately affecting minorities. <o:p></o:p> He hasn't figured out how his cut will get into his 401k. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:04:22 PM EDT
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Good! Too bad I have a feeling that the ONLY reason he did it was because it was most likely disproportionately affecting minorities. <o:p></o:p> Yup. Right thing wrong reason. But still the right thing. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:05:22 PM EDT
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I thought he resigned. He shouldn't be doing anything but leaving.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:05:54 PM EDT
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Good Job! I never thought I'd say that about Holder.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:06:46 PM EDT
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:07:59 PM EDT
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Great news, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Indeed. The most powerful weapon LE has is not machineguns, APC's, or tactical entry teams; it's the radio. You can't outrun it and you're not going to win against 300 cops, even if they're limited to Barney Fife 6-shooters. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:08:01 PM EDT
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. yeah, but what's his real motive. C'mon, its Holder. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:10:35 PM EDT
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Cases like US v. $1,000,000 are a mockery to justice.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:12:04 PM EDT
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I thought he resigned. He shouldn't be doing anything but leaving. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:12:32 PM EDT
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If Holder is for it, I'm against it.
He is a despicable person, a lousy leader, and racially corrupt. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:13:07 PM EDT
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Seems like a great thing, until you realize who it came from. There is absolutely no way that asshole did this without the intention and probably already in action plan to fuck someone.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:14:04 PM EDT
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I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet. .
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:15:37 PM EDT
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Seems like a great thing, until you realize who it came from. There is absolutely no way that asshole did this without the intention and probably already in action plan to fuck someone.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:18:57 PM EDT
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Trying to reduce the power of state and local cops by cutting off their cash cow.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:20:25 PM EDT
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Too many of his criminal buddies are getting their Money confiscated on I-95
Its good for good and bad guys, problem is he didn't do it for the good guys Free |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:21:15 PM EDT
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If you stole the stuff you can keep the stuff.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:21:53 PM EDT
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. Local cops use local laws.....we never knew the fed statue. You guys gotta realize that when you use a federal statue to seize prop you have to give them a cut. 99.9% of city, county, and state law enforcement use local seizure and forfeiture laws. He can't do jack about state laws and this "ruling" applies to almost no one. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:22:06 PM EDT
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One might think that he put his resignation on hold when he found that the (R)'s were going to get both the house and senate and they would be reopening the investigations of thinks like Fast and Furious. His successor may not care as much about him staying out of prison as he does and might actually aid in and investigation instead of impeding it.
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I thought he resigned. He shouldn't be doing anything but leaving.
I got that. It should be a story that he unresigned. He is after all the AG which is supposed to be the hieight of integrity. (Stop laughing) |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:24:20 PM EDT
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Trying to reduce the power of state and local cops by cutting off their cash cow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile And making them more likely to take a federal handout, with strings attached. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:24:57 PM EDT
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Good
Cops shouldn't be able to confiscate property(unless its stolen), and they damn sure shouldnt profit from it. No man should have his home or money taken away that he will need to defend himself in court. Free Quote HistoryQuoted: Trying to reduce the power of state and local cops by cutting off their cash cow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:25:36 PM EDT
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He is fucking us somehow.
What else will he change before he finally blows town on a rail ? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:25:57 PM EDT
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I got that. It should be a story that he unresigned. He is after all the AG which is supposed to be the hieight of integrity. (Stop laughing) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought he resigned. He shouldn't be doing anything but leaving.
I got that. It should be a story that he unresigned. He is after all the AG which is supposed to be the hieight of integrity. (Stop laughing) |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:26:10 PM EDT
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Yup. Right thing wrong reason. But still the right thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good! Too bad I have a feeling that the ONLY reason he did it was because it was most likely disproportionately affecting minorities. <o:p></o:p> Yup. Right thing wrong reason. But still the right thing. This. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yeah, but what's his real motive. C'mon, its Holder. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. yeah, but what's his real motive. C'mon, its Holder. It's an attack on local law enforcement. You will see more. Disclaimer: Asset Forfeiture is BS. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:28:23 PM EDT
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Now will this stop a cop from taking a guys bag of cash/$10k or more just because they believe it might be drug money?
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:32:25 PM EDT
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Now will this stop a cop from taking a guys bag of cash/$10k or more just because they believe it might be drug money? Free There's some communist states that have state laws allowing cops to steal your stuff legally. This just stops them from using federal law to do it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good! Too bad I have a feeling that the ONLY reason he did it was because it was most likely disproportionately affecting minorities. <o:p></o:p> |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:34:44 PM EDT
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This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. They are masking firearms seizures under the guise of getting rid of civil seizures. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:35:21 PM EDT
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Don't fool yourself. This will be selectively applied, just as hate crime laws. Exactly. Anyone who believes otherwise has a short memory. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:37:13 PM EDT
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Always Think Forfeiture laughs at this development. ETA: Yup... Fuck 0bama and his cock Holder. «tc2k11» Quote HistoryQuoted:
Always Think Forfeiture laughs at this development. ETA: Yup... Holder’s decision allows some limited exceptions, including illegal firearms, ammunition, explosives... Fuck 0bama and his cock Holder. «tc2k11» If they can't use drugs anymore, which was a ridiculous catch-all prove-a-negative, they're cutting out pretty much the most abusive part of the program. This is a good thing. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now will this stop a cop from taking a guys bag of cash/$10k or more just because they believe it might be drug money? Free |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:39:06 PM EDT
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Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:39:25 PM EDT
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Local cops use local laws.....we never knew the fed statue. You guys gotta realize that when you use a federal statue to seize prop you have to give them a cut. 99.9% of city, county, and state law enforcement use local seizure and forfeiture laws. He can't do jack about state laws and this "ruling" applies to almost no one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. Local cops use local laws.....we never knew the fed statue. You guys gotta realize that when you use a federal statue to seize prop you have to give them a cut. 99.9% of city, county, and state law enforcement use local seizure and forfeiture laws. He can't do jack about state laws and this "ruling" applies to almost no one. I don't think this is right. Any of this. Equitable sharing took billions worth of shit off people. If you read the article it says thousands of departments took part in the program. So by "applies to almost no one", does this "no one" mean the nearly 8,000 departments that it's going to affect? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:40:27 PM EDT
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This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. Actually, it's the second IMO. Video taping of the police in public places. But he fucking sucks about everything else. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:45:35 PM EDT
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Yeah. I don't believe it.
DOJ runs an extortion racket on corporations. More of a you-have-to-pay-to-play thingy, but his hands are dirty. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:46:40 PM EDT
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This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. This is the first thing that worthless POS has gotten right. If it's true. I'm not holding my breathe. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:49:21 PM EDT
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I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet. . You must endeavor to persevere. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:49:35 PM EDT
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Don't fool yourself. This will be selectively applied, just as hate crime laws. This... Just like enforcing civil rights legislation... |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:50:19 PM EDT
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Local cops use local laws.....we never knew the fed statue. You guys gotta realize that when you use a federal statue to seize prop you have to give them a cut. 99.9% of city, county, and state law enforcement use local seizure and forfeiture laws. He can't do jack about state laws and this "ruling" applies to almost no one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred. Local cops use local laws.....we never knew the fed statue. You guys gotta realize that when you use a federal statue to seize prop you have to give them a cut. 99.9% of city, county, and state law enforcement use local seizure and forfeiture laws. He can't do jack about state laws and this "ruling" applies to almost no one. It's great PR. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:54:51 PM EDT
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Wow, he actually did something productive.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:56:02 PM EDT
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Nothing wring with this. I'm sure the current structure motivated police to essentially steal from people.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 4:59:29 PM EDT
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He's a great American.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 5:03:05 PM EDT
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Sounds good on the outside, its the inside we should be worried about.
Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I heard a lot of the seizures went thought the feds and (the article says) the money went back to police departments and they could use the money for some equipment (had to be related like nightvision was okay but new patrol cars were not? I think). The article says that instead of the cops getting new gear or OT it will just go to the state (depending on the state) to stick in the general fund, so no OT or cool toys and therefore no motivation to seize Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now will this stop a cop from taking a guys bag of cash/$10k or more just because they believe it might be drug money? Free |
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