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Posted: 5/4/2001 11:43:07 AM EDT
So 10 years after banning most guns and crime rates that have gone through the roof, England has decided that it now needs to ban civil rights, you know "it's for the children". What England has done is: Getting rid of trial by jury Abolish the rule against double jeopardy Confiscate the assets of criminals without trial Complete Article http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,289279-412,00.shtml Parts of the Article: "There is a real crime problem in Britain," said Geoffrey Robertson, a trial lawyer. "London is more dangerous these days than New York." Robertson, one of Britain's leading trial lawyers says the shocking crime statistics panicked Prime Minister Tony Blair's government into going for a quick fix. "The quick-fix solution is always the populist one: Let's get rid of jury trials. Let's abolish the rule against double jeopardy. Let's confiscate the assets of criminals without trial," he said. "But this doesn't help to detect crime." And all of this is happening in the country that gave America its basic concepts of justice. One of those legal rights that the government is now chipping away at, trial by jury, was guaranteed, on the banks of the river Thames at Runnymede, when King John signed the Magna Carta nearly 800 years ago.
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 11:45:47 AM EDT
England. What a sorry excuse for a free country. Can't even call it free anymore. The EU is passing pan-European laws that criminalize criticism of the EU now, too. What a wonderful place, huh?
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 11:50:55 AM EDT
Well they could not have taken their civil rights without taking their guns first, right? Poor sheep...bahhhhh!!!
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 12:08:10 PM EDT
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Now where are the sheeple cries of "Why can't we be more like the civilized countries such as England?". I believe it was just last year that judges were allowed to incarcerate individuals solely because of mere suspicion that they MIGHT commit a crime.
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 12:11:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 12:19:25 PM EDT
That my friends is the difference between free men and subjects of the crown. They are killing and burning the animals there now, will it be those who long for freedom next.
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 12:23:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 1:17:06 PM EDT
England ranks #1 in world violent crime, with Australlia a close 2nd and U.S. is 8th.
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 4:42:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chaingun: England ranks #1 in world violent crime, with Australlia a close 2nd and U.S. is 8th.
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Why the hell can't the sheeple learn this?
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 5:31:41 PM EDT
Looks like we wasted a hell of a lot of money in the last 50 years - maybe we should have just let the USSR have Europe.... At least it would have been more efficient. Friggin Brits! I guess Otto (A Fish Called Wanda) was right afterall!
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 5:42:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chaingun: England ranks #1 in world violent crime, with Australlia a close 2nd and U.S. is 8th.
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Did you just pull that out of your ass? Columbia is the most violent nation in the world. Followed by Brazil and South Africa. BTW, violent crime is so bad in Brazil they have repealed their gun laws. Gun control didn't seem to help their outrageous crime rates, so they saw little harm in letting citizens own guns again.
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 6:02:21 PM EDT
Last weekend Massod Ayob spoke at our annual meeting. He was telling us about a trip he took down to Florida. I belive he was wearing something that identified him as a gun owner and he was a little concerned about how people there would react to him. He was on tour and spoke with several nice people from Florida. Then he noticed a couple sort of shying away from him. It turns out they were from England and they told him England doesn't think the US should have guns. His response was, didn't we settle that argument over 200 years ago! The English are getting what they deserve for being sheep. Hopefully people in the US will see this as a wake up call and stop it from happening hear.
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 6:25:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/4/2001 6:30:15 PM EDT by MG_ME]
[left]SWIRE: thats why i learned HOW to make My own guns! from avalible metal. but when the day come's when they have my guns. i will still have guns regardless. it really pisses me OFF that people like the brits are too stupid to see what banning all guns has done to them. to me if there that DUMB to believe what there own government has told them; then there too dumb to own guns period. another thing that pisses me off is that both World Wars we fought for them spilled Blood for them to be free then turned around and loose it to abunch of fucking commies. when you loose you right to bear arms, and your civil liberties then what is itfucking communist! thats while in the post about this one member not wanting to fight for freedom! why? huh! why should i go and spill my blood for some goddamn country that's taking its own citizens right's away? i won't. if the WW I/II vet's see's this they would turn in there grave. one more thing if a brit come up to my face and say that i would beat the living fuck right out of him!!!!!!![/left][:(!]
Link Posted: 5/4/2001 6:41:33 PM EDT
.....did'nt we settle that arguement 200 years ago? I love it! Now those bastards will be at the UN this summer trying to get ours!
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