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Posted: 8/11/2013 9:28:17 AM EDT
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I am a Home depot guy, but Lowes is much closer to my house... Stopped in to get a new tape and channel loc's Stopped over the electrical section and ALL their Knipex and Greenlee Ideal meters are off the shelves and stocked up with Southwire..... No tools as of yet, the Website is still being built |
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Yeah they have moved to "home owner grade" I used to get a lot of Greenlee and Ideal stuff from there to send overseas for work. Now I just buy online and avoid the hassle and sales tax.
I do go to HD if I need some Ridgid tools though |
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week.
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Southwire has been around for decades. At least when I used to work for UL, they were owned by Leviton. |
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. View Quote Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house |
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Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. |
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Fluke and Klein or stay in your mom's basement playing with the electric trains.
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Fluke, Klein, Greenlee, will use others in a pinch, but especially the cutting tools are worth it.
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Fluke, Klein, Greenlee, will use others in a pinch, but especially the cutting tools are worth it. View Quote I have had my Kline ratchet cutters fail twice. They fixed them, but it would have sucked if my buddy was not around with his. For $400 I figure they would hold up better. |
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I have had my Kline ratchet cutters fail twice. They fixed them, but it would have sucked if my buddy was not around with his. For $400 I figure they would hold up better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fluke, Klein, Greenlee, will use others in a pinch, but especially the cutting tools are worth it. I have had my Kline ratchet cutters fail twice. They fixed them, but it would have sucked if my buddy was not around with his. For $400 I figure they would hold up better. If you are using them heavily, then you need to go to the German made ones for about double that. They'll only break a paycheck once, and nothing after that. Sort of like the Facom wire cutters. |
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If you are using them heavily, then you need to go to the German made ones for about double that. They'll only break a paycheck once, and nothing after that. Sort of like the Facom wire cutters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fluke, Klein, Greenlee, will use others in a pinch, but especially the cutting tools are worth it. I have had my Kline ratchet cutters fail twice. They fixed them, but it would have sucked if my buddy was not around with his. For $400 I figure they would hold up better. If you are using them heavily, then you need to go to the German made ones for about double that. They'll only break a paycheck once, and nothing after that. Sort of like the Facom wire cutters. Using them on 646mcm. |
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Fluke, Klein, Greenlee, will use others in a pinch, but especially the cutting tools are worth it. I have had my Kline ratchet cutters fail twice. They fixed them, but it would have sucked if my buddy was not around with his. For $400 I figure they would hold up better. If you are using them heavily, then you need to go to the German made ones for about double that. They'll only break a paycheck once, and nothing after that. Sort of like the Facom wire cutters. Using them on 646mcm. What model Klein cutter? What material/type of conductor? |
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Fluke and Klein or stay in your mom's basement playing with the electric trains. Well I guess I'll stay home and play with my Knipex tools then Me too. Oh well. |
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Fluke and Klein or stay in your mom's basement playing with the electric trains. Well I guess I'll stay home and play with my Knipex tools then Me too. Oh well. I wish I was a professional enough to use Klein and stuff |
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. The last few sets of screwdrivers I have bought from Klein have been less than impressive. |
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The last few sets of screwdrivers I have bought from Klein have been less than impressive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. The last few sets of screwdrivers I have bought from Klein have been less than impressive. It's not their screwdrivers that are the problem for me, it's their pliers and cutters |
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I'm a commercial electrician, and just bought a Southwire meter to try out. I've had fluke, ideal (biggest pile of junk ever), greenlee, and recently a Klein. The Southwire seems to be doing just fine. It's the 1000amp AC/DC true RMS. the greenlee and ideal used to tell me lies about voltage and resistance.
Having had too many tools destroyed on construction sites, I quit using my flukes for everyday use. As for a "disposable" meter, I had my Klein for 3 years without a problem until it grew legs, and after two weeks, the Southwire has been worth the $115 I spent on it For hand tools, I'll stick with Klein. Would go knipex, but I like being able to go in nearly any supply house and swap something out if the need arises |
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Fluke, Klein, Greenlee, will use others in a pinch, but especially the cutting tools are worth it. I have had my Kline ratchet cutters fail twice. They fixed them, but it would have sucked if my buddy was not around with his. For $400 I figure they would hold up better. If you are using them heavily, then you need to go to the German made ones for about double that. They'll only break a paycheck once, and nothing after that. Sort of like the Facom wire cutters. Using them on 646mcm. What model Klein cutter? What material/type of conductor? Copper 646mcm dlo. And 4awg 3/c. VFD cable. Cutter is German made 63060. The sprig on the ratchet pawl falls out. So does the one between the grips, but I can still use them when that happens. |
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The last few sets of screwdrivers I have bought from Klein have been less than impressive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. The last few sets of screwdrivers I have bought from Klein have been less than impressive. Snap on or S&K for screw drivers or gtfo. |
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It's not their screwdrivers that are the problem for me, it's their pliers and cutters View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. The last few sets of screwdrivers I have bought from Klein have been less than impressive. It's not their screwdrivers that are the problem for me, it's their pliers and cutters I gave up on Klein after their diagonal cutter tips kept breaking off. That was over a 3 year span, and about 20 different pairs. Their screwdrivers have sucked for a while IMO. But they are still better than Southwire. |
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Fluke has never let me down. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429525_3021944879841_1006480899_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419194_3021559150198_1082223101_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/420451_3020764490332_273914051_n.jpg https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/424692_3020763410305_106172838_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426155_3020760530233_81289341_n.jpg https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/403545_3461922759013_300942469_n.jpg View Quote Me neither. 100% best, no-contest meters for everything. Capable to be user calibrated, bulletproof, and dead balls on accurate for life. You'll never regret a Fluke Meter (unless it's one of their econo models). |
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I gave up on Klein after their diagonal cutter tips kept breaking off. That was over a 3 year span, and about 20 different pairs. Their screwdrivers have sucked for a while IMO. But they are still better than Southwire. View Quote The gap between my lineman's jaws is so wide they won't hold on to a piece of metal stud. My lineman's and diagonal cutters were so hard to open and close I had to use almost a whole can of WD40 to get them to drop open with 0 input from me. My Knipex have been flawless on all respects. I'm having a hard time deciding which cutters in Knipex's line I'll get for cutting BX |
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Copper 646mcm dlo. And 4awg 3/c. VFD cable. Cutter is German made 63060. The sprig on the ratchet pawl falls out. So does the one between the grips, but I can still use them when that happens. View Quote That cutter is rated for 400 MCM CU max, which is meant to be building wire or "compact conductor" type cable. I realize the DLO cable is finely stranded and should "give" easier than building wire, but have to wonder if the 646 DLO cable is too much for the Klein 63069 cutter and causing it fo fail. The Klein 63750 would probably hold up better. |
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That cutter is rated for 400 MCM CU max, which is meant to be building wire or "compact conductor" type cable. I realize the DLO cable is finely stranded and should "give" easier than building wire, but have to wonder if the 646 DLO cable is too much for the Klein 63069 cutter and causing it fo fail. The Klein 63750 would probably hold up better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Copper 646mcm dlo. And 4awg 3/c. VFD cable. Cutter is German made 63060. The sprig on the ratchet pawl falls out. So does the one between the grips, but I can still use them when that happens. That cutter is rated for 400 MCM CU max, which is meant to be building wire or "compact conductor" type cable. I realize the DLO cable is finely stranded and should "give" easier than building wire, but have to wonder if the 646 DLO cable is too much for the Klein 63069 cutter and causing it fo fail. The Klein 63750 would probably hold up better. We have told Klein what it failed on. They fixed it. They just said the cut would not be as clean. The actual cutter and ratchet are fine. It is just the return spring on the pawl and the return spring between the grips. |
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These failed on #4 copper. Cast steel. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1094936_10201195304916911_1379702319_n.jpg View Quote I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. |
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. Klein has been going to shit for a while. |
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Fluke has never let me down. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429525_3021944879841_1006480899_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419194_3021559150198_1082223101_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/420451_3020764490332_273914051_n.jpg https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/424692_3020763410305_106172838_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426155_3020760530233_81289341_n.jpg https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/403545_3461922759013_300942469_n.jpg View Quote specs on that VFD? and I will not use anything other than Fluke out in the field! |
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I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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These failed on #4 copper. Cast steel. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1094936_10201195304916911_1379702319_n.jpg I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. I refer to my lineman's pliers as my electrician's hammer |
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These failed on #4 copper. Cast steel. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1094936_10201195304916911_1379702319_n.jpg I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. I refer to my lineman's pliers as my electrician's hammer That's because you actually take your tools out of the bag |
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These failed on #4 copper. Cast steel. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1094936_10201195304916911_1379702319_n.jpg I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. I refer to my lineman's pliers as my electrician's hammer That's because you actually take your tools out of the bag Damned right, Cola Warrior |
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Absolutely THE best open locator/tone generator we have been issued in my 30 years of telephony. Amazing for short wire runs and locate tool I have ever used.
http://www.flukenetworks.com/datacom-cabling/installation-tools/TS-100-Cable-Fault-Finder |
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These failed on #4 copper. Cast steel. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1094936_10201195304916911_1379702319_n.jpg I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. I refer to my lineman's pliers as my electrician's hammer I use channel locks for that. |
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. The first time I saw their stuff in a HD, I suspected it wouldn't be long. Glad I got my leather and canvas stuff already I guess. It should last me. |
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These failed on #4 copper. Cast steel. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1094936_10201195304916911_1379702319_n.jpg I found a pair of 9 inch Kobalt cutters like those. So far they have held up well. Even been used to drive a j hook in a pole a time or two. I refer to my lineman's pliers as my electrician's hammer I use channel locks for that. Yeah but the lineman's have more heft |
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The first time I saw their stuff in a HD, I suspected it wouldn't be long. Glad I got my leather and canvas stuff already I guess. It should last me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only good thing about Lowes was that they had Knipex. I'll have to check to see if I can grab some clearance items this week. Yeah, the had ONE pair of Knipex dykes....From, $26 down to $19 I just got a new pair of Klein a few weeks ago. I guess that is why Contractors go to HD or a supply house Klein is going to shit also. The first time I saw their stuff in a HD, I suspected it wouldn't be long. Glad I got my leather and canvas stuff already I guess. It should last me. I have this pouch. Serves me very well http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/powerline-combo-sets/powerline-4-piece-electricians-combo-set-extra-large |
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I have given up on pouches. I almost always have a cart near by so I keep my tool bag on it with all my gizmos. When I'm working on something I just stuff tools in my pockets. Been wearing 5.11 pants to help with it
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I have given up on pouches. I almost always have a cart near by so I keep my tool bag on it with all my gizmos. When I'm working on something I just stuff tools in my pockets. Been wearing 5.11 pants to help with it View Quote Cargo pants are a must. I'm thinking of getting a tool bag too. Use the pouch for when I'm up a ladder or cisorlift or something. |
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Fluke and Klein or stay in your mom's basement playing with the electric trains. Well I guess I'll stay home and play with my Knipex tools then lol agreed. The only other guy in my shop that does any wiring thought I was crazy for not buying Klein everything. Now he loves Knipex especially my multistrips |
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lol agreed. The only other guy in my shop that does any wiring thought I was crazy for not buying Klein everything. Now he loves Knipex especially my multistrips View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fluke and Klein or stay in your mom's basement playing with the electric trains. Well I guess I'll stay home and play with my Knipex tools then lol agreed. The only other guy in my shop that does any wiring thought I was crazy for not buying Klein everything. Now he loves Knipex especially my multistrips These? http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1363&groupID=1376 |
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I have a Klein backpack. Love it. Looks geeky as hell but I don't care.
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