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Posted: 9/16/2004 9:25:42 AM EST
www.electoral-vote.com/

Check out that map! Wow!

Currently that guy is projecting Kerry 223 against Bush at 311!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:28:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 9:30:37 AM EST by drache]
Looks like I might just get my wish from yesterday then.
I asked for IL and they are FAR less blue than yesterday.
Nice development.

Anyone else happen to notice that he's even slipping a bit in CA?
If the demoncraps can't even carry Kalistan then they've got MAJOR problems.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:29:16 AM EST
The part I love is Illinois...Barely Kerry! I wonder if Don King's campaigning and radio messages are having an effect on the west and south sides?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:29:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 9:30:15 AM EST by MaverickMkii]
Wow..it might be a landslide after all.

KEEP THE PRESSURE ON!



ETA: Wait....NJ is listed as barely Bush? what the...?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:30:29 AM EST
I have predicted a Bush landslide for a long time now...Bush will likely get at least 300 Electoral Votes...
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:30:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 9:33:30 AM EST by Malpaso]
Hopefully nobody gets lulled into a false sense of security. We all need to actually vote in November to make these predictions come true.

ETA - Conclusion: Kerry is slipping is some states where he was way ahead, but is making a comeback in the real battleground states.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:31:32 AM EST
Sweet! Let's just hope it stays that way!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:32:55 AM EST
bush is 4 points up in nj per survey usa.

Minnesota should be barely bush - they appear to be using a minneapolis red star tribune poll numbers, which skew heavily against republicans. Newer, better polls show bush up by 2 in minnesota.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:33:36 AM EST
Actually I hate red.. but damn that is a beautiful site.
It won't make lax though, no worries, still spreading the word and I will be at the polls.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:33:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 9:35:12 AM EST by Mauser101]
Hehehe. I'm waiting to hear news reports of dem disillusionment in mid november.

I don't know much about Minnesota, but I always thought it was a pretty conservative place. The solid blue kindof suprises me.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:35:14 AM EST
Damn you Detroit!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:37:52 AM EST
If there is a GOP landslide with the Dems STFU for a few months???

GunLvr
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:38:58 AM EST

As I looked at this site I decided to refresh myself on the electoral college and came across this. They are explaining why it's difficult to change the system to a popular vote.

"The fact that nearly all the low-population states are heavily Republican adds to the difficulties of changing the system. Direct election of the president would eliminate the current bias in favor of the Republicans."

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:39:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By keving67:
Damn you Detroit!



i hear ya buddy. they'll be dragged out of crack houses & bussed to the booths by the thousands.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:39:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
If there is a GOP landslide with the Dems STFU for a few months???

GunLvr



No, but the collective heads at DU will explode like the dude in "Scanners"...

I'll have popcorn and beer

SG
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:42:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
If there is a GOP landslide with the Dems STFU for a few months???

GunLvr



But, if it's not close they can't cheat! (recounts, courts)
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:49:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:56:37 AM EST
Not all of Cali are for the Demos.

This is a map of the 2002 Gov. election. The problem is that the Bay Area and LA have the #'s to drag the rest of the state around by the nose.

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:59:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 10:00:12 AM EST by Diss_ipator]
Check out their projection for the election. Kerry 181 Bush 306

www.electoral-vote.com/fin/sep16p.html
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:00:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:01:44 AM EST
223? That's bad karma....



Originally Posted By Spade:
www.electoral-vote.com/

Check out that map! Wow!

Currently that guy is projecting Kerry 223 against Bush at 311!

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:06:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:07:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 10:09:51 AM EST by 2whiskeyP]
Damn, WA is the only strong sKerry state on the west coast on Diss_ipators link. Too many hippies in Seattle! Sorry guys....
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:09:41 AM EST
I hope the election is a HUGE blowout, just because I can't wait to watch the democratic party completely collapse.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:16:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:21:09 AM EST
Why are they still using red? I thought red was supposed to be replaced with the more friendly purple?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:27:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 10:28:00 AM EST by ms_international]


Originally Posted By KA3B:223? That's bad karma....

Perhaps Kerry shound't have put his foot in his mouth with the ban???


Originally Posted By Spade:
www.electoral-vote.com/

Check out that map! Wow!

Currently that guy is projecting Kerry 223 against Bush at 311!


Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:27:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By MCTS:
"The fact that nearly all the low-population states are heavily Republican adds to the difficulties of changing the system. Direct election of the president would eliminate the current bias in favor of the Republicans."



...and replace it with a system where the residents of the 10 largest cities in the USA will determine the election every time...no, thanks...
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:31:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:40:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 10:43:40 AM EST by BobP]

Originally Posted By Mauser101:
Hehehe. I'm waiting to hear news reports of dem disillusionment in mid november.

I don't know much about Minnesota, but I always thought it was a pretty conservative place. The solid blue kindof suprises me.



Minnesota's the land of Humphrey, Mondale, and Wellstone. But there is hope for the state. Most of the counties in the state went for Bush in 2000, Gore took the highly populated Metro area, the iron range, and a couple of other outstate counties. I think my county was approximately 70% Bush last election, my precinct was about 90% Bush.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:43:24 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 10:50:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By MCTS:
As I looked at this site I decided to refresh myself on the electoral college and came across this. They are explaining why it's difficult to change the system to a popular vote.

"The fact that nearly all the low-population states are heavily Republican adds to the difficulties of changing the system. Direct election of the president would eliminate the current bias in favor of the Republicans."




That's exactly the reason why the Electoral College is in place. It keeps a few large population centers from deciding how the rest of the country should be governed. Take the examples of California into account. The sheer numbers of liberals on the coast overwhelm the rest of the states. If you went strictly by counties, California is a conservative state.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 11:54:50 AM EST
Love the data...but that site is the shnitz! Loved the final map option where you can overlay the current map to see how the numbers are trending.

Good news!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:27:33 PM EST
Wooot !
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:53:10 PM EST
Oregon is only Barely Kerry! 3%. Those numbers give me a spark of hope for the people of this state.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 1:11:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:

Originally Posted By MCTS:
As I looked at this site I decided to refresh myself on the electoral college and came across this. They are explaining why it's difficult to change the system to a popular vote.

"The fact that nearly all the low-population states are heavily Republican adds to the difficulties of changing the system. Direct election of the president would eliminate the current bias in favor of the Republicans."




That's exactly the reason why the Electoral College is in place. It keeps a few large population centers from deciding how the rest of the country should be governed. Take the examples of California into account. The sheer numbers of liberals on the coast overwhelm the rest of the states. If you went strictly by counties, California is a conservative state.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...



actually thats really only part of the reason. mostly the purpose of the electoral college was to protect the country from direct democracy. Just in case the people really lost their heads and overwhelmingly supported a charismatic dictator, the state legislators could send electors with a little bit of wisdom to make sure a tyrant never got elected.

btw, that electoral-college.com site is pretty biased. tack on about 2-3 more percentage points to bush to whatever that guy says.

MAINE is TIED??? I thought maine was just Massachusetts North...
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 1:21:10 PM EST
I think they should drop the electorial system.

There are 51 states, The canidate with the most states wins the election.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 1:31:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Synister1:
I think they should drop the electorial system.

There are 51 states, The canidate with the most states wins the election.



The constitution ain't broke so why do we need to fix it?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 1:49:03 PM EST
There are 50 states. DC needs to be dropped from the POTUS election, it is not a part of the United States. If the people living there don't like not being able to vote, they can move to an actual state. If Puerto Rico, Guam, and USVI can't vote for the Pres, then why can DC?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 1:58:14 PM EST
This is the reaction to the news that Ted Kennedy is hitting the campaign trail for Kerry....
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 2:13:00 PM EST
Can anybody explain the 6% voting for Nader in the Northwest states? I didnt think there were that many socialist living on sheep ranches and potato farms.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 2:23:03 PM EST
Re: Nader...

He's getting a swell in votes as the "anybody but bush" crowd realizes Kerry will likely lose.

As that happens, they decide not to vote their fears (a Kerry vote), but to vote their twisted warped communist shit twinkletoed cocksuking marxist inspired liberal dreams (i.e., Nader).

Its the same thing that's happening in Texas: Bush has it so wrapped up that a LOT of gun owner types are going to vote for Bardanick
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 2:57:41 PM EST
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