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Posted: 11/5/2009 10:00:37 AM EST
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-election5-2009nov05,0,883229.story

November 5, 2009

Reporting from Washington and Madison, Wis.

Even before voters went to the polls this week, moderate congressional Democrats were anxious. Would the swing voters who coalesced around Barack Obama almost exactly one year ago stay with the Democrats or defect to the Republicans?

The answer came Tuesday night as Republican gubernatorial candidates swept to power in New Jersey and Virginia, with the help of large packs of self-described independents.

Exit polls circulating on the House floor Wednesday were even more unnerving to Democrats. The Republican candidates, the polls indicated, had received the votes of two-thirds of independent voters.

Now, as the entire House of Representatives and a third of the Senate prepare for next year's midterm elections, some moderate Democrats are wondering whether they can afford to follow President Obama's ambitious legislative agenda on such controversial issues as healthcare and climate change. One said the results were a "wake-up call."

"There are going to be a lot more tensions between the White House and Congress," predicted Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.), a member of the Blue Dog Coalition of fiscally conservative Democrats. "They've been under the surface so far –– and they're going to come out in the open."

The president's agenda already has been bogged down by an extended and draining battle over healthcare, one that could stretch into the new year.

After that bruising fight, bitter conflicts loom over climate change, financial market reform and immigration. That sets up a potential conflict between the White House and some Democrats who want to avoid controversial votes that can –– and almost certainly will –– be used against them by their opponents in next year's campaigns.

Ironically, those same exit polls indicate that Obama remains relatively popular with voters, even among those who chose Republican candidates Tuesday.

But "lesser mortals need to be worried about their independent voters," Cooper said, "because they have shifted strongly against Democrats in recent months. Independent voters tend to look at the issue, not the party, and they don't like a lot of what Congress has done."

Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster, said that Democrats such as Cooper had reason to be nervous.

"Republicans won independents by 2 to 1. It was overwhelming. It was breathtaking," Ayres said. "That is a huge shift since the last two elections in a very short amount of time."

Ayres said that his polling data indicate a clear shift in the independent vote starting in April. He said that "spending and debt" are the reasons –– "starting with the bailouts, followed up with the stimulus package, the budget with its $1-trillion deficit, healthcare with another trillion."

The White House, however, maintained Wednesday that the outcomes in Virginia and New Jersey had little to do with Obama's policy agenda, and aides rejected suggestions that Congress may be more skeptical of that agenda going forward.

"I think the data from the gubernatorial races demonstrates that voters went to the polls in those two contests to talk about and work through very local issues that didn't involve the president," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said.

Asked whether Blue Dogs and other moderates might be less inclined to support Obama's agenda, he said, "I don't think they will, and I'm not concerned."

In fact, some in the Democratic Party argued that the Democratic hopeful in Virginia, R. Creigh Deeds, damaged his campaign by trying to distance himself from Obama. Deeds even ran ads criticizing the Democratic climate change bill and refused to refer to himself as an "Obama Democrat." He lost in a landslide to Republican Bob McDonnell, 59% to 41%.

Obama's grass-roots support "is only transferable insomuch as the candidate in the race is willing to embrace the president," said one Democratic official, who spoke on condition of anonymity while discussing campaign dynamics. "I don't think it's all that surprising that Obama supporters weren't enthusiastic about a candidate who, in their view, dissed President Obama."

Exit polls showed that a fifth of the voters who supported McDonnell had a favorable opinion of Obama. That number was even higher in New Jersey among those who voted for the Republican candidate, Christopher Christie.

Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who heads the Democratic election effort in the House, said that Democrats, in fact, were vindicated by Tuesday's results.

"There were only two elections yesterday that had to do with what Congress is doing and the Obama agenda," Van Hollen said, citing congressional races in California and New York, both of which were won by Democrats. The New York victory came somewhat as a surprise, as Democrat Bill Owens beat back a surge by conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

The House is expected to vote on its version of a healthcare bill as soon as Saturday, while the Senate remains weeks away from a final vote.

In addition, the House has already passed a bill that would cap carbon emissions by polluters, but Senate action on that legislation probably won't come until next year –– if at all. The bill remains unpopular with some Senate moderates such as Sens. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) and Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), both of whom are up for reelection in 2010.

"It's very hard to predict what the legislative mood is going to be like once healthcare clears," said Matt Bennett, an analyst with Third Way, a centrist think tank. "If you ask endangered Democrats right now, of course everyone will want to say no, but I think the landscape looks different when this is all done."

Obama, for his part, marked the anniversary of his election by flying to Madison, Wis., a bastion of liberal voters in the heartland. At a rally, he spoke directly to his base supporters, saying that his administration had saved jobs and had plans that he said would increase wages and improve employment rates.

"We are going to keep on fulfilling our obligation to do every single thing we possibly can to pull this economy out of the ditch and to make sure that people can find jobs that pay good wages. That's our top priority," Obama told students and teachers at a middle school.

Even among the president's strongest supporters, there are signs of disappointment. But they are different from those expressed by moderates. Instead of worrying that the administration has gone too far, some liberals say it has not gone far enough.

"It's not all up to the president; I know that," said Galen Milchman, a 19-year-old pizza deliverer who said he had worked for Obama's election a year ago. "But the Democrats are in control of the House and the Senate, and so we were going to get all this change. Where is it? It makes me feel very cynical."


Link Posted: 11/5/2009 10:04:44 AM EST
Ironically, those same exit polls indicate that Obama remains relatively popular with voters, even among those who chose Republican candidates Tuesday


BULLSHIT!!
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 10:55:23 AM EST
I got this email from my Senator who is up for re-election yesterday:

Re: DoD expended brass directive

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Senator Debbie Stabenow
to me
show details Nov 4 (2 days ago)
United States Senator Debbie Stabenow - Michigan
November 4, 2009

TdK71
1234 AnyStreet
Anytown, MI 10010

Thank you . . . . . for contacting me about gun control. I understand your concerns.

I grew up in Clare, Michigan, and many in my family are avid hunters and fishermen. I felt very comfortable growing up with guns in our home and I understand the importance of legal and safe gun ownership. I do not support any efforts to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, but I do support enforcement of laws that prevent minors and criminals from illegally purchasing guns.

My goal is to protect the rights of law abiding citizens, while recognizing the need to protect our children and our families from gun violence and other criminal activity. If we work together, I believe common sense will prevail.

There is currently no legislation before the U.S. Senate that would direct the military to allow the sale of expended army ammunitions without reconditioning. Should related gun control legislation come before the Senate for a vote, I will keep your views in mind.

Thank you again for sharing your views with me. Please continue to keep me informed about issues that are important to you and your family.

Sincerely,

Debbie Stabenow

United States Senator

I sent her the original message back in June when the DOD spent Brass issue was going on. I still haven't heard form my other Senator but he doesn't have to worry about re-election for another five years. Stabecow's term is up next year, maybe I'd like to try my hand @ the U.S. Senate. How would one go about it?
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 10:57:53 AM EST
Them people must really think that the American public are a bunch of dumbasses......dipshit 0 went and campaigned for those idiot Demo. and they didn't get voted in.....but the people that didn't vote for the demos. have nothing against 0....hey I've got some swamp land in AZ for sale...
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