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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:03:53 AM EDT
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He did this as a slap in the face to Bezos. It's no secret Trump and Bezos hate each other.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:03:53 AM EDT
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This is God damned brilliant! Way to go Trump... keep kicking ass! http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310321-trump-names-elon-musk-uber-ceo-to-advisory-team HAH! Now the fucking lefties and tree-hugging hippies will find some bullshit reason to call Elon a traitor or a devil worshiper. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:03:58 AM EDT
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I am not tired of Winning yet Mr. President More WIN please
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:05:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:07:02 AM EDT
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HAH! Now the fucking lefties and tree-hugging hippies will find some bullshit reason to call Elon a traitor or a devil worshiper. And GD will have to pretend they really liked Elon Musk all along. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:07:22 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:08:53 AM EDT
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And GD will have to pretend they really liked Elon Musk all along. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HAH! Now the fucking lefties and tree-hugging hippies will find some bullshit reason to call Elon a traitor or a devil worshiper. And GD will have to pretend they really liked Elon Musk all along. Agreed |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:08:55 AM EDT
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Thread title is incorrect . Elon would be a homeless guy with a good idea without taxpayers money .
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:08:55 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. You don't seem to like anything about Trump's admin..... |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:09:37 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. This |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:09:55 AM EDT
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Might this just be a way for Musk to stay latched to the government teat?
From the LA Times: Los Angeles entrepreneur Elon Musk has built a multibillion-dollar fortune running companies that make electric cars, sell solar panels and launch rockets into space. And he's built those companies with the help of billions in government subsidies. Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. The figure underscores a common theme running through his emerging empire: a public-private financing model underpinning long-shot start-ups. "He definitely goes where there is government money," said Dan Dolev, an analyst at Jefferies Equity Research. "That's a great strategy, but the government will cut you off one day." |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:10:02 AM EDT
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I don't trust Musk. I think he's a snake oil salesman.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:11:19 AM EDT
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I don't trust Musk. I think he's a snake oil salesman. Yep. I hope he takes Elon fishing on Lake Tahoe. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:11:54 AM EDT
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You don't seem to like anything about Trump's admin..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. You don't seem to like anything about Trump's admin..... Why do you say that? When Romney was rumored I was mad about that. That rumor is dead. I've been reading the rest of his picks and laughing my ass off at the liberal heads exploding. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:12:32 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:13:04 AM EDT
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Wasnt Musk one of the elite that met with GOPe types to try and cockblock Trump? So we like Musk now?
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:14:43 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. Wait. You referring to Trump or Musk? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:14:45 AM EDT
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Piss on musk...
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:17:33 AM EDT
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This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. Contrary to one of the above posters he does have fans in GD. There was some Musk-love-fest thread here a few weeks ago that I stepped into and plenty of people took up for him while condemning GM, Ford, et al for taking bailouts. The funny thing was I never said one pro-GM or any other maker statement. All I did was point out how he got his start up cash from US and now gets paid by other car manufacturers that sell less "green cars". It is good to have friends in all the right places. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:19:18 AM EDT
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And GD will have to pretend they really liked Elon Musk all along. I still don't like that crazy asshole. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:19:40 AM EDT
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Ok, coppertop.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:20:11 AM EDT
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I do like the SpaceX CGI.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:20:12 AM EDT
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Part of the swamp.
First day in office Trump needs to cancel all of Musk's federal grants. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:21:41 AM EDT
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This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. Uummmm....while I'm not his biggest fan, Tesla and Space X are far from vaporware |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:21:59 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. Musk is the wrong guy if you want to drain the swamp. He is the swamp. OTOH, Uber has gotten where they are by taking on an industry that uses the power of government to stifle competition; they've been draining the swamp. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:23:47 AM EDT
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This is God damned brilliant! Way to go Trump... keep kicking ass! http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310321-trump-names-elon-musk-uber-ceo-to-advisory-team Now he can take away the BILLIONS of dollars the government is giving Musk so Musk can show us how a business is built without taxpayer sponsorship. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:24:39 AM EDT
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Musk is a man with cool ideas, but he would have been completely unsuccessful without massive help from govt subsidies. Tesla still isn't making any money...
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:25:04 AM EDT
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Perfect
Piss off the liberals and keep him where you can keep an eye on him. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:25:24 AM EDT
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Part of the swamp. First day in office Trump needs to cancel all of Musk's federal grants. Won't he pretty much have to if Musk is part of his administration? Conflict of interest and all. Trump has many ways to win, he doesn't just order shit done, he can be sneaky too. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:26:19 AM EDT
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:28:16 AM EDT
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Considering that musk is the grand wizard of corporate welfare, I'm not sure why this is good. But, "advisory board" doesn't sound like it really does anything anyway, so why the hell not...I guess.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:29:13 AM EDT
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The more Trump does as president-elect, the more I think I read Clancy's Executive Orders and is using it as a fucking instruction manual. MAGA
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:29:42 AM EDT
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This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. And he is probably the most financially successful African-American of all time. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:29:49 AM EDT
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Another white guy.....OMG!
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:30:08 AM EDT
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Uummmm....while I'm not his biggest fan, Tesla and Space X are far from vaporware Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like that he is associating with this leftist scum that has taken so much taxpayer money thanks to crony capitalism. This dudes entire business model is sucking tax payer money for ideas that will not pan out. All he sells is vaporware. Uummmm....while I'm not his biggest fan, Tesla and Space X are far from vaporware I admit to knowing zero about Space X but Tesla may not be "vaporware" as in they actually do sell cars but if it wasn't for taxpayer money and laws passed that force other manufacturers to pay them they would not be around. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:30:24 AM EDT
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Might this just be a way for Musk to stay latched to the government teat? From the LA Times: Los Angeles entrepreneur Elon Musk has built a multibillion-dollar fortune running companies that make electric cars, sell solar panels and launch rockets into space. And he's built those companies with the help of billions in government subsidies. Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. The figure underscores a common theme running through his emerging empire: a public-private financing model underpinning long-shot start-ups. "He definitely goes where there is government money," said Dan Dolev, an analyst at Jefferies Equity Research. "That's a great strategy, but the government will cut you off one day." Sounds to me like he is a smart guy who knows where to make a bunch of money. Honestly I would rather see our govt. invest in ideas/companies like Musk's over welfare programs. Even if the taxpayers lose money on some of these deals, what kinds of technology advancement come out of them? What if SpaceX ends up getting us to Mars? What if they come up with other breakthrough technologies that improve our daily lives? The space race of prior decades resulted in a lot of technology development that benefited us all. If our govt. can no longer drive for things like this, at least they can invest in companies that do. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:30:27 AM EDT
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Won't he pretty much have to if Musk is part of his administration? Conflict of interest and all. Trump has many ways to win, he doesn't just order shit done, he can be sneaky too. If that's the angle, then its fucking brilliant. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:30:52 AM EDT
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I don't trust Musk. I think he's a snake oil salesman. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:31:15 AM EDT
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Thread title is incorrect . Elon would be a homeless guy with a good idea without taxpayers money . Because taxpayers created Zip2, X.com and PalPal??? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:33:33 AM EDT
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And he is probably the most financially successful African-American of all time. What you did there......
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:34:42 AM EDT
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Won't he pretty much have to if Musk is part of his administration? Conflict of interest and all. Trump has many ways to win, he doesn't just order shit done, he can be sneaky too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Part of the swamp. First day in office Trump needs to cancel all of Musk's federal grants. Won't he pretty much have to if Musk is part of his administration? Conflict of interest and all. Trump has many ways to win, he doesn't just order shit done, he can be sneaky too. Im thinking the same, that's a win in my book |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:35:44 AM EDT
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The mental gymnastics this causes on both sides is going to be hilarious
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:36:17 AM EDT
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Who said the following:
"the United States is [inarguably] the greatest country that has ever existed on Earth" "the United States is "the greatest force for good of any country that's ever been" "there would not be democracy in the world if not for the United States" "there were three separate occasions in the 20th-century where democracy would have fallen with World War I, World War II and the Cold War, if not for the United States" |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:38:46 AM EDT
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He did this as a slap in the face to Bezos. It's no secret Trump and Bezos hate each other. Other key tech players expected to be at the meeting include Facebook’s Cheryl Sandberg, Google parent company Alphabet’s Eric Schmidt and Larry Page, and Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. A representative from Uber will not be in attendance. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:38:48 AM EDT
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Musk is a man with cool ideas, but he would have been completely unsuccessful without massive help from govt subsidies. Tesla still isn't making any money... Which is exactly how NASA and shit is supposed to work. Cool ideas and barrels of money. That's how you put people on other planets. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:40:53 AM EDT
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And GD will have to pretend they really liked Elon Musk all along. Not me. FEM |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:43:26 AM EDT
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Wow only in GD....
Probably the last visionary industrialist in this country and you guys shit on him... eh for what again exactly? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:44:48 AM EDT
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Yep. I hope he takes Elon fishing on Lake Tahoe. Dammit, when I get The Godfather in my head, everything reminds me of it. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:44:49 AM EDT
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Unlike others here, I'm not an Elon Musk supporter
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:45:39 AM EDT
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Might this just be a way for Musk to stay latched to the government teat? From the LA Times: Los Angeles entrepreneur Elon Musk has built a multibillion-dollar fortune running companies that make electric cars, sell solar panels and launch rockets into space. And he's built those companies with the help of billions in government subsidies. Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. The figure underscores a common theme running through his emerging empire: a public-private financing model underpinning long-shot start-ups. "He definitely goes where there is government money," said Dan Dolev, an analyst at Jefferies Equity Research. "That's a great strategy, but the government will cut you off one day." Did you read the article? that $4.9 billion number is made up by the journalists and includes things like: 1) The Federal tax incentives paid when solar power is installed (which goes to the consumer if they buy a system or to SolarCity if they lease a system) 2) State incentives to build a factory in their State (creating thousands of job and massive tax revenue for the State) 3) Environmental credits bought by other car companies because they don't want to make their cars more efficient. All those incentives create more wealth than they cost the taxpayer, and are a much better use of Government money than welfare where you have no return on your investment. ETA: It also isn't cash money just handed to Musk, it is projected subsidies over the next 20 years. For example the battery factory in Nevada: Tesla supposedly gets $1.3B in subsidies over the next 20 years, but in return the State gets $100B in economic impact, 6000 new jobs, and we are producing batteries in the US instead of importing them from China. |
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