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Posted: 6/20/2017 8:27:07 AM EST
The Environmental Protection Agency is scrapping the agency's nearly $1 million in gym memberships as an abuse of taxpayer funds.
"We have ended taxpayer-funded fitness centers at EPA; a program that was costing American taxpayers $900,000 per year," said EPA spokesperson Jahan Wilcox. "Disinvestment in using federal funds for EPA
fitness centers will allow the agency to invest this money in core activities to protect the environment."

The Washington Free Beacon first reported the decision on Monday. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt vowed to get rid of the gym memberships after the newspaper reported earlier this year that the agency had paid
$15,000 per year for employees in Las Vegas to upgrade to premium fitness memberships at 24 Hour Fitness. This was done even though the employees already had complimentary gym memberships at the University of Nevada's campus in Las Vegas.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/epa-scraps-1-million-in-gym-memberships-for-employees/article/2626413
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:35:11 AM EST
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:36:31 AM EST
No loss. The EPA employees that I know certainly don't use the membership.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:37:22 AM EST
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Bad move...GD has assured me that cutting government employee compensation will descend the country into chaos
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:37:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
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And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:40:18 AM EST
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And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
It's such a great idea that the government should pay for it.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:41:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
So you are saying gym memberships should be provided for everyone?  How about free healthy food as well?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:42:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Huh? people can't buy their own gym membership? Can they not use the complimentary one? Can they not work out on their own? I don't understand your reasoning.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:43:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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lol

I love it when they out themselves.

Here is the thing, you can do cardio, and lift weights and all that without paying for a gym membership.  You know, sorta like us taxpayers have had to do because we get taxed too much.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:46:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
No, a bunch of people say oh I got a free gym membership, go to the gym, and hurt themselves on thebewuioment and then end up with lifelong debilitating injuries.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:46:20 AM EST
They get paid enough to pay for own memberships.  From what I have seen salary's are quite inflated.

I hope we see more of this and curtailing pork programs.

If all the waste/fraud was eliminated we would have more than enough for other stuff, i.e. infrastructure, healthcare, military...
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:46:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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The GOP shouldn't want tax payer money going to this. That's what fiscal conservatives want and I'm not so sure why you are confused by this...
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:48:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By toby1:

Huh? people can't buy their own gym membership? Can they not use the complimentary one? Can they not work out on their own? I don't understand your reasoning.
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Most large company get provide gym memberships to keep staff health. Their insurance carriers will also give them a break on their rates.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:52:22 AM EST
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And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
Sorry Bernie Lost. Gym memberships for everyone!
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:52:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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universal gym memberships for EVERYONE!!
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:56:56 AM EST
Company gym memberships are a waste of money. The people that want to work out will just buy one anyway, everybody else is just kidding themselves. The gyms love it, of course, because all of these employees sign up, never use the facility and have no incentive to cancel because work is footing the bill.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:58:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sharkman74:


universal gym memberships for EVERYONE!!
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It's a right, right?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:59:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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They can do so on their own dime. Unless treadmills are a right?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:02:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Then they can buy their own goddamned memberships with their own money- same as the rest of us. It's not like they are being denied medical coverage.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:03:50 AM EST
Good. Pay for your own gym membership like everyone else.

Also, most gym memberships go unused.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:04:59 AM EST
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And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Originally Posted By stgdz:
Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
Hello Snowflake
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:06:38 AM EST
Reversing the incremental spending.  MAGA.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:07:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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I am assuming that you voluntarily pick up the tab for people that can't afford gym memberships, right?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:09:54 AM EST
Just a drop in the bucket?

Then why try to do anything that can't be done all at once?

Fuck that stupid socialist bullshit.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:10:38 AM EST
LOL
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:13:12 AM EST
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Getting there.


Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:16:19 AM EST
Well, the more they exercise, the greater the aerobic metabolism----and the more carbon dioxide they expel..... Global warming don't ya know.......
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:20:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pbol53:

 Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
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This.  If the employees were using it, during breaks and non-work time to actually get exercise, then it is a good thing.  Knowing the government though you probably had people "working out" for 2 hours during the work day and that isn't counting the 1 hour plus lunch they took.  Who wouldn't like the benefits of a 5 hour work day...plus whatever additional breaks they take.

Exercise is not only healthy but it is good for clearing out the mind so you can focus better.  I wish I had the option as I would work more efficiently many days if I could get some exercise in mid-day.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:24:26 AM EST
Are they also selling the workout equipment that the department owns for employee use?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:28:55 AM EST
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Making people pay for their own healthy lifestyle is literally murder.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:31:15 AM EST
EPA building here has a gym in it.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:31:16 AM EST
Thats a lot of kick back that some EPA administrator is not getting anymore.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:35:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:
Most large company get provide gym memberships to keep staff health. Their insurance carriers will also give them a break on their rates.
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Originally Posted By toby1:

Huh? people can't buy their own gym membership? Can they not use the complimentary one? Can they not work out on their own? I don't understand your reasoning.
Most large company get provide gym memberships to keep staff health. Their insurance carriers will also give them a break on their rates.
that's privately earned money, I don't care if a private company pays for their groceries, gym, full insurance, and their wives botox and boob jobs....... gov runs off OUR money. they should tie the gym thing to their insurance premiums.. no go to gym, insurance costs more.... go to gym, that cost is subtracted from insurance.

also.. if you smoke, drink, or are fat... you should be paying more for insurance, than people who don't. because people who smoke, drink, and are fat tend to cost insurance companies more.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:39:50 AM EST
The epa should be sent to foreign countries kinda like we do with the peace corp only for screwing up foreigner's businesses.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:41:47 AM EST
Attachment Attached File


Give it to the TSA.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:42:03 AM EST
WTF gym memberships...I don't care if it's only $100 a year for the whole group, WTF.

That's just the tip of the ice berg government wide I'm sure.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:42:56 AM EST
This must be that swamp draining I keep hearing about
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:44:42 AM EST
Was the gym membership part of an employee wellness program that lowered the employers health insurance costs? Will the employers health insurance cost increase in response?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:46:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AR15:

So you are saying gym memberships should be provided for everyone?  How about free healthy food as well?
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it may be in your employers best financial interests to provide gym memberships for his employees. if giving you a $9 a month gym membership saves them $300 a month in insurance premiums its stupid not to buy you that membership.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:48:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:


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Yep its also why companies will pay for drug and alcohol counseling, support to stop smoking and annual check ups. its called an employee wellness program and it dramatically lowers the employers health insurance premiums.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:52:27 AM EST
Now cut their personnel by 25% and have most of the rest rescinding EPA mandates.

Then when done cut their personnel another 25-50%
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:57:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
it may be in your employers best financial interests to provide gym memberships for his employees. if giving you a $9 a month gym membership saves them $300 a month in insurance premiums its stupid not to buy you that membership.
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You are making up numbers.

Provide facts and we may adjust our view on this.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:02:29 AM EST
I can understand a reasonably sized and equipped gym at large offices, but to paying for private gym memberships is a complete screw to the tax payers. Yeah its a drop in the bucket of federal spending, but imagine all these little shings spread across dozens of .gov agencies. Pretty soon your talking gallons, not drops.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:04:50 AM EST
I bet the insurance break they got was larger than the amount they spent.
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I bet the insurance break they got was larger than the amount they spent.
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they probably have fed blue or the union subsidized federal health plan.

You're paying for it.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:17:30 AM EST
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that's privately earned money, I don't care if a private company pays for their groceries, gym, full insurance, and their wives botox and boob jobs....... gov runs off OUR money. they should tie the gym thing to their insurance premiums.. no go to gym, insurance costs more.... go to gym, that cost is subtracted from insurance.

also.. if you smoke, drink, or are fat... you should be paying more for insurance, than people who don't. because people who smoke, drink, and are fat tend to cost insurance companies more.
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Now we're getting somewhere, the fatties and chain smokers should pay for the fit peoples gym memberships.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:17:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:


And if they are staying healthy by hitting the gym then they are staying out of the hospital later in life.


But the gop doesn't give a shit about that.
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Wow. False dichotomy and a false moral high ground in two sentences. You're efficient.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:19:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:



that's privately earned money, I don't care if a private company pays for their groceries, gym, full insurance, and their wives botox and boob jobs....... gov runs off OUR money. they should tie the gym thing to their insurance premiums.. no go to gym, insurance costs more.... go to gym, that cost is subtracted from insurance.

also.. if you smoke, drink, or are fat... you should be paying more for insurance, than people who don't. because people who smoke, drink, and are fat tend to cost insurance companies more.
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Also they should charge people more for having sex, owning guns and other things that make insurance cost more!
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:20:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pbol53:
Not even a drop in the bucket. Honestly it's probably not that bad of an expense if the employees are using the memberships.
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Yes, it's a bad expense. It duplicates perks they already have.

Every stinking program needs to be gone through with a fine tooth comb. The Federal Government has become a VERY cushy employer, all on our grandchildren's grandchildren's dime.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:24:24 AM EST
How many folks are missing the part about the employees having access to a gym that didn't cost the department anything? The paid one isn't necessary.
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