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Posted: 6/4/2003 7:03:47 AM EDT
Ive got a copy of Linux Mandrake 9.0 and Im currently running Win 2K Pro. Id like to have them duel boot on this machine, but the only way I know how to do it is to install Linux first and then Windows. If I do that I lose all the stuff on my computer on the Windows partition and get to start all over again, is there a way to do it without having to reload Windows?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 7:24:35 AM EDT
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Duel booting?  So you're going to have them fight? [:)]

Just create two partitions, and you'll almost always be ok.  There aren't too many versions of Windows that will clobber a partition that it doesn't own.  If you can find a nondestructive partitioning program, like Partition Magic, you can reduce the size of your current Windows partition, create a new partition from the newly created empty space, then install Linux into the new partition without losing any data.  It does work well.  I haven't done it in years, so I'm sure someone else can provide more help.

Also, you might want to consider adding a second drive to put Linux on.  For the price of Partition Magic, you can buy a hard drive.z
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:24:12 AM EDT
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I installed Redhat 8 on a second hard drive on my XP Pro machine without any problems. The problem came about when I uninstalled it and the windows MBR was left with GRUB on it.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:56:50 AM EDT
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I installed Redhat 8 on a second hard drive on my XP Pro machine without any problems. The problem came about when I uninstalled it and the windows MBR was left with GRUB on it.
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fdisk /mbr will get rid of it.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:27:46 AM EDT
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Duel booting?  So you're going to have them fight? [:)]
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Beat me to it.  [;)]


There aren't too many versions of Windows that will clobber a partition that it doesn't own.
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I have had XP and W2k overwrite the boot sector of the drive, though, so if you install Linux first, you'll have to re-install LILO or Grub after installing Windoze.

Since you're installing Linux 2nd, MadProfessor, it should be fine.  Like zoom says, just use partition magic.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:54:29 AM EDT
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I installed Redhat 8 on a second hard drive on my XP Pro machine without any problems. The problem came about when I uninstalled it and the windows MBR was left with GRUB on it.
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fdisk /mbr will get rid of it.
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Linux or DOS fdisk?

I ran into the same thing when I got rid of Redhat 9 (ran slower than Windows and a PITA to get my NICs/hardware recognized).  I deleted all partitions, made new ones using the DOS fdisk, and Grub was still on it.  I finally got rid of Grub by using a W2K install disk to remove partitions and reformatted the entire drive in NTFS.


Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:04:32 AM EDT
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fdisk /mbr will get rid of it.
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Linux or DOS fdisk?

I ran into the same thing when I got rid of Redhat 9 (ran slower than Windows and a PITA to get my NICs/hardware recognized).  I deleted all partitions, made new ones using the DOS fdisk, and Grub was still on it.  I finally got rid of Grub by using a W2K install disk to remove partitions and reformatted the entire drive in NTFS.
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DOS "fdisk /mbr" does the trick.  There are actually two things stored in the boot sector of the hard disk:  1) Boot code that gets run by the BIOS to find and load the operating system.  2) Partition table (and a backup).  fdisk normally only touches (2) to change the partition information.  "fdisk /mbr" actually rewrites the boot code on the boot sector with a generic booting routing.  LILO and Grub put their bootstrap code there, so the /mbr option will remove them.  
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:15:47 PM EDT
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Linux or DOS fdisk?

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I use a Win98 boot disk just because that is what I usually have lying around.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 6:17:32 AM EDT
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I tried the MBR repair, but whoever built my computer set the admin password and I had no clue what it was. Of course it was 2am when I was working on it and decided to "fix" it myself. Didn't lose any data and all works well now.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 1:45:59 PM EDT
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I tried the MBR repair, but whoever built my computer set the admin password and I had no clue what it was.
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Would not have mattered if you had the password or not.

DOS or Win98 doesn't support NTFS security and can re-write the MBR at will.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 7:01:10 AM EDT
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even with an XP machine?
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:53:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2003 6:55:00 PM EDT
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even with an XP machine?
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Doesn't matter whether it's NT, 2000, or XP.

You are booting from the floppy disk to 98/DOS.

I've personally done it on all three listed OS's to remove GRUB, Western Digital's EZ BIOS, and some nasty boot sector viruses.

Worked like a charm every time [:D]
Link Posted: 6/7/2003 7:37:10 PM EDT
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Western Digital's EZ BIOS, and some nasty boot sector viruses.
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In my experience, EZ BIOS [i]is[/i] a nasty boot sector virus.  [;)]
Link Posted: 6/8/2003 9:02:21 PM EDT
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In my experience, EZ BIOS [i]is[/i] a nasty boot sector virus.
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LOL, going to have to agree with on that fizassist!

Definitely creates more problems then it solves.
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 5:20:54 AM EDT
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cool, I will have to remember that next time I get the urge to set up Linux on my second drive. Now where did I put that 98 disc?
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