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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:07:08 AM EDT
[#1]
holy double standard.
"Gun control doesn't work! Bad people will still have guns if they are banned!" "We need more laws against drugs so people can't get drugs!" 
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:08:17 AM EDT
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Is it marijuana overdoses that are killing people?
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:11:45 AM EDT
[#3]
Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:14:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it marijuana overdoses that are killing people? I think it's when they jump off buildings thinking they can fly, all the while stabbing knitting needles in their eyes, thinking they're Carmen Miranda. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:16:43 AM EDT
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What if your on hard drugs and shoot yourself?
What statistic does that go to? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:17:22 AM EDT
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has there ever been a tyrannical .Gov overthrown by unarmed potheads?
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:17:28 AM EDT
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Of course the government is pushing for more gun regulation, and less drug regulation. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/dea-drug-overdoses-kill-more-americans-car-crashes-or-firearms 4 of 20 ICU beds are OD's right now. I believe it. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:17:32 AM EDT
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So you're saying drugs are killing drug users? Where's the problem?
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:19:04 AM EDT
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“We must stop drug abuse before it begins by teaching young people at an even earlier age about its many dangers and horrors." Bullshit, what kid has not heard the anti-drug mantra? Most of the of the deaths are probably from heroin overdose from potency, and pain med abuse with alcohol. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:20:05 AM EDT
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Many miss the big picture. Drugs overload social safety nets. Blame Wilson and Fabian socialism.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:24:31 AM EDT
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Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:24:37 AM EDT
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Be good to see drinkers getting afflicted with Jake leg and blindness from drinking screwed up alcohol produced in secrecy not to mention getting shot up in raids and sales turf wars again since so many have forgot that part of history. Based on the last go around it should make the current drug war look like a walk in the park.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:29:53 AM EDT
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Be good to see drinkers getting afflicted with Jake leg and blindness from drinking screwed up alcohol produced in secrecy not to mention getting shot up in raids and sales turf wars again since so many have forgot that part of history. Based on the last go around it should make the current drug war look like a walk in the park. But what would your state offer to the rest of the country then? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:34:53 AM EDT
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But what would your state offer to the rest of the country then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Be good to see drinkers getting afflicted with Jake leg and blindness from drinking screwed up alcohol produced in secrecy not to mention getting shot up in raids and sales turf wars again since so many have forgot that part of history. Based on the last go around it should make the current drug war look like a walk in the park. But what would your state offer to the rest of the country then? World class racehorses. Tobacco. Freedom. KCR Don't be a hater just cause you don't even have bourbon to offer. 
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:35:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: has there ever been a tyrannical .Gov overthrown by unarmed potheads? A strawman made of hemp. Cool, man... |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:41:19 AM EDT
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Of course the government is pushing for more gun regulation, and less drug regulation. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/dea-drug-overdoses-kill-more-americans-car-crashes-or-firearms Don't need either regulation. If people want to kill themselves with drugs, fine. Their choice. The only one fighting it are the Pharma drug cartels. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:47:34 AM EDT
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Is it marijuana overdoses that are killing people? AIDS from pot needles. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:48:07 AM EDT
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Many miss the big picture. Drugs overload social safety nets. Blame Wilson and Fabian socialism. Ban THOSE! |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:48:08 AM EDT
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The story should be, look how remarkably FEW people die from drug overdoses, AND from firearms. 46k in a country of 322 million...... .01% or .0001 rate will die from a drug overdose. AND over half of those will die from prescription medication, not even the target of our Prohibition,
Government sells itself by creating "fear". It's very easy when people have a difficult time conceptualizing large numbers, or fail to understand statistics. The DEA is trying to scare up some business. (...and doing a good job) That's all. 
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:49:00 AM EDT
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Is it marijuana overdoses that are killing people? lol |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:49:07 AM EDT
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Every kid needs to see what someone looks like strung out on meth or heroin. Kept me away from that shit growing up.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:49:40 AM EDT
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Add coffee and sugared soft drinks and I'm on board. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:50:03 AM EDT
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Is it marijuana overdoses that are killing people? Bath salts and marijuana are just a bad idea. About twice a week, I hear reports of naked people running out in the street, freaking out. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:55:41 AM EDT
[#24]
In other news....
130,000 Americans die each year from mistakes, and goofy accidents. --CDC report on unintentional accidents (falling, unintentional poisoning, etc) Message: Freedom and reality are scary ...see why we steal your money to fund our salaries, benefits, and budgets! |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:56:58 AM EDT
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Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out. This. Getting awful tired of dope related bullshit: Establish an area for people who want to do it(inner city sounds good to me), keep them in there (segregate dope heads from normal society) then let the problem solve itself within a generation or two. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:57:45 AM EDT
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Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out. This post nails it. Let the idiots be idiots. Self correcting problems are my favorite type of problems. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:58:19 AM EDT
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Add coffee and sugared soft drinks and I'm on board. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Add coffee and sugared soft drinks and I'm on board. Is that you, Bloomberg? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:00:11 AM EDT
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This post nails it. Let the idiots be idiots. Self correcting problems are my favorite type of problems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out. This post nails it. Let the idiots be idiots. Self correcting problems are my favorite type of problems. EXCEPT.... Half the drugs that kill people are LEGAL, and prescribed. So... |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:00:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: World class racehorses. Tobacco. Freedom. KCR Don't be a hater just cause you don't even have bourbon to offer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Be good to see drinkers getting afflicted with Jake leg and blindness from drinking screwed up alcohol produced in secrecy not to mention getting shot up in raids and sales turf wars again since so many have forgot that part of history. Based on the last go around it should make the current drug war look like a walk in the park. But what would your state offer to the rest of the country then? World class racehorses. Tobacco. Freedom. KCR Don't be a hater just cause you don't even have bourbon to offer. wat |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:04:43 AM EDT
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EXCEPT.... Half the drugs that kill people are LEGAL, and prescribed. So... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out. This post nails it. Let the idiots be idiots. Self correcting problems are my favorite type of problems. EXCEPT.... Half the drugs that kill people are LEGAL, and prescribed. So... So Darwin won already in those cases? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:05:18 AM EDT
[#31]
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Add coffee and sugared soft drinks and I'm on board. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Add coffee and sugared soft drinks and I'm on board. Don't forget KFC and cigarettes! |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:06:56 AM EDT
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Is it marijuana overdoses that are killing people? Pot needles. 
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:07:39 AM EDT
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Ummmmmmmmm in one breath you suggest banning alcohol and then in the next you mention still selling tobacco products. wat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Be good to see drinkers getting afflicted with Jake leg and blindness from drinking screwed up alcohol produced in secrecy not to mention getting shot up in raids and sales turf wars again since so many have forgot that part of history. Based on the last go around it should make the current drug war look like a walk in the park. But what would your state offer to the rest of the country then? World class racehorses. Tobacco. Freedom. KCR Don't be a hater just cause you don't even have bourbon to offer. wat And he includes Freedom with banning things.........
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:10:51 AM EDT
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This. Getting awful tired of dope related bullshit: Establish an area for people who want to do it(inner city sounds good to me), keep them in there (segregate dope heads from normal society) then let the problem solve itself within a generation or two. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Legalize it all. Let Darwin sort it out. This. Getting awful tired of dope related bullshit: Establish an area for people who want to do it(inner city sounds good to me), keep them in there (segregate dope heads from normal society) then let the problem solve itself within a generation or two. Fear The Walking Dead! Hey maybe that munition dump in the backyard wasn't such an outlandish idea afterall!! |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:12:50 AM EDT
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Everything a weapon! Decriminalize it all!
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:14:30 AM EDT
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Yeah, I would believe that statement.
As someone who has worked in EMS for 30 years, I can confirm that in my experience, drugs kill far more people than cars and cars kill far more people than guns. Included at no extra cost, smoking kills far more people than all of those combined. But that is just my personal experience with no numbers to back it up. Not deaths, but just EMS incidents, alcohol probably results in far more incidents I respond to than all other causes combined. I once had a student from another state do a ride along with me. After about three calls, she said to me, "I don't mean to question what you guys do, but why don't you tell the nurses in the ER that the patient's are drunk?" I said, "Because every patient we transport is drunk. During this shift, we will run around 20 calls and every one of them will be drunk. It would be more informative if we told the ER nurses if we had a patient that WASN'T drunk". At the end of the shift we did have one patient that wasn't drunk. ONE While not all of those (or even very many of them) resulted in deaths. The money spent on this is staggering. How many of those drunks do you think paid any of the bills ? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:16:42 AM EDT
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Ummmmmmmmm in one breath you suggest banning alcohol and then in the next you mention still selling tobacco products. wat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to expand the war on drugs to include the drug alcohol again. Be good to see drinkers getting afflicted with Jake leg and blindness from drinking screwed up alcohol produced in secrecy not to mention getting shot up in raids and sales turf wars again since so many have forgot that part of history. Based on the last go around it should make the current drug war look like a walk in the park. But what would your state offer to the rest of the country then? World class racehorses. Tobacco. Freedom. KCR Don't be a hater just cause you don't even have bourbon to offer. wat Not much to tobacco that has passed through a factory versus not unless the factory has adulterated it which means the non would be safer. Most of the inherent negatives seen with drugs as they exist today(other than outright overdoses which can happen with alcohol also) are the result of someone producing crap in their garage and inducing impurities out of ignorance or to increase yield. So alcohol drinkers should get their chance to get Jake leg and blindness from bad alcohol getting cranked out in the woods under cover of darkness. Be nice getting to see that group at Wal-Mart alongside the meth mouth folks. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:18:49 AM EDT
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You don't say? But dopehead ARFCOMMERS claim that free drugs for everybody and drug legalization
would make such deaths disappear overnight! Sunshine and unicorns and rainbows!
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:25:13 AM EDT
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You don't say? But dopehead ARFCOMMERS claim that free drugs for everybody and drug legalization would make such deaths disappear overnight! Sunshine and unicorns and rainbows! Sigh. The usually personal insults and generalizations. Don't people realize that almost every anti-drug talking point can be applied to guns? Yeah, we have the 2A, but remember this. The 2A doesn't mention which guns you are allowed to have and which you aren't. This opens the door to all kinds of 'common sense' gun laws. Oh, and look at this lovely substance that is currently legal and even encouraged on this board. Hypocrisy much? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-fitzgerald/15-shocking-alcohol-stati_b_7010680.html 100,000 deaths related to alcohol ever year. 80,000 directly caused by excessive use. Nice stuff
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:26:39 AM EDT
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You don't say? But dopehead ARFCOMMERS claim that free drugs for everybody and drug legalization would make such deaths disappear overnight! Sunshine and unicorns and rainbows! Not in to free anything. I do recognize that in addition to the enormous monetary costs of the war on drugs the symbiotic war on guns and other freedoms are far too costly though. But if it has to be then alcohol should be included so that group of hypocrites gets fully slapped upside the head with the nonsense they support. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:33:46 AM EDT
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The US Government owned 80% of the worlds opium production since the Afghanistan invasion.
Instead of eradicating it, we helped them expand it & they produce even more each year.... |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:44:37 AM EDT
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You don't say? But dopehead ARFCOMMERS claim that free drugs for everybody and drug legalization would make such deaths disappear overnight! Sunshine and unicorns and rainbows! The only people I have seen advocate free drugs here, are the anti-drug warriors who wanted to give out tainted drugs. |
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