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Posted: 10/28/2013 6:07:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 6:10:28 PM EST by winddummy82]

Two former workers at the Dresden nuclear power plant in Illinois are banned from working in nuclear power plants after they were accused of attempting to rob an armored car and carjacked a woman.

NRC staff issued a confirmatory order to Exelon Generating Co. (NYSE: EXC) for an incident involving violations of the Behavioral Observation Program at the plant. NRC says senior reactor operator Michael J. Buhrman planned to rob an armored car in May 2012 and recruited another senior reactor operator, Landon E. Brittain, to assist. Buhrman instead pointed a gun at a woman in a store parking lot and stole her vehicle. Buhrman was apprehended for aggravated vehicular carjacking and fled the country when he was released on bail. He was tried and sentenced to 40 years in absentia this past May. Brittain has several criminal charges pending against him.

The NRC said that their actions offsite demonstrated that they could not be relied upon to follow NRC requirements to protect the plant and public safety. In addition, some plant personnel knew of Buhrman’s plant to commit the crime and did not report him.



from well paid to fugitives facing a 40 year stretch. only in illinois!

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Internet high-five to someone who actually flees to another country when facing prosecution.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:25:34 PM EST
Just saw this on the news.



Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:33:12 PM EST
I am a power plant/system operator,....let me tell you,they don't let just anybody do this shit. It's tricky business.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:46:15 PM EST
His dad:


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How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?
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I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.
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Originally Posted By 98_1LE:

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.
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Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.
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You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.

How do I get in?
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Originally Posted By Danj:
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Boring jobs lead you to want to make decisions that are exciting. Risk is exciting.

What is riskier than committing an poorly thought-out robbery?
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Originally Posted By Danj:
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This
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Originally Posted By Saladman:

How do I get in?
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Originally Posted By Saladman:
Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.

How do I get in?



Do you have any (and I mean even a little bit) of experience in a power plant/boiler or any electrical experience? That's all we need,we can work with you.
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His dad (the disappoint guy) is in jail so maybe he's proud.
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You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.

I failed the physical for a pin in my elbow from when I was 6, but I enlisted in the Navy while still in high school to do 7 years in the nuclear reactor operator program. Still kinda bummed.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 7:09:16 PM EST
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Buhrman had conversations with another Navy veteran plant operator about planning to commit bank robberies and armored car heists. Buhrman asked if he had ever seen "The Town” and mentioned that it would be cool to do something like that if he could put together a team.
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The well-paid senior reactor operator started attempting to recruit other workers at the Dresden nuclear power plant in order to form a gang to rob banks "to get back at the system.”
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You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.
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Dwayne Arnold? I was up there last fall for the outage!

On topic though I would never jeopardize my unescorted access to nuke sights for stupidity like that...
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
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Don't have to be in the Union here if you choose not to,this is Iowa. And Union or not,these guys would have never worked in our shop again.
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
OP is a big union guy, but it's not funny if I have to explain it
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Don't worry, their union will grieve and get them back on site.... With back pay



Don't have to be in the Union here if you choose not to,this is Iowa.
OP is a big union guy, but it's not funny if I have to explain it



Guess not.
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More info here.

ETA: makes sense now. divorced and a kid. I'd try assemble a bunch off $$$ and make a break for it too.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:



Do you have any (and I mean even a little bit) of experience in a power plant/boiler or any electrical experience? That's all we need,we can work with you.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By Saladman:
Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.

How do I get in?



Do you have any (and I mean even a little bit) of experience in a power plant/boiler or any electrical experience? That's all we need,we can work with you.

I built an electromagnet once!
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Originally Posted By Saladman:

How do I get in?
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Originally Posted By Saladman:
Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.

How do I get in?

No shit.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:



Don't have to be in the Union here if you choose not to,this is Iowa. And Union or not,these guys would have never worked in our shop again.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Don't worry, their union will grieve and get them back on site.... With back pay



Don't have to be in the Union here if you choose not to,this is Iowa. And Union or not,these guys would have never worked in our shop again.


Considering that the guy who fled the country was sentenced in absentia to forty year, I don't think your shop has anything to worry about.
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Wow. They were SROs. They gave up six figure salaries.

SROs are typically the brightest and somewhat motivated employees. The rigorous training usually weeds out the losers. Interesting life choices here.
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Wow. If you asked me to pick someone out of a nuke plant that would rob an armored car, any of the SROs would probably be near the bottom of the list.


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Interesting they would give all that up, for thrills.
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Internet high-five to someone who actually flees to another country when facing prosecution.
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Have you ever read about Lee Murray's exploits?
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Meathead nukes. what a tale!
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Don't worry, their union scumbag lawyers will grieve and get them back on site.... With back pay
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fify
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
OP is a big union guy, but it's not funny if I have to explain it
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Don't worry, their union will grieve and get them back on site.... With back pay



Don't have to be in the Union here if you choose not to,this is Iowa.
OP is a big union guy, but it's not funny if I have to explain it
yeah ok
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Don't worry, their union will grieve and get them back on site.... With back pay



Don't have to be in the Union here if you choose not to,this is Iowa.
OP is a big union guy, but it's not funny if I have to explain it

the american bar association is...
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Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
Wow. If you asked me to pick someone out of a nuke plant that would rob an armored car, any of the SROs would probably be near the bottom of the list.


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Yeah.... this.
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DEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.


Vermont Yankee is closing next year, and another may follow. Also the two plants in CA (Diablo Canyon?)that are being shuttered, have people available with licenses.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:

Do you have any (and I mean even a little bit) of experience in a power plant/boiler or any electrical experience? That's all we need,we can work with you.
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I machined a few dozen parts that are heading to three future nuclear reactor cooling systems. That's about all I can say about that side...

I'm not licensed, but I've done all sorts of electrical work for my own personal stuff.
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I'm in Training to be an SRO right now. It sure ain't easy, and I'm not even in class yet. If those idiots didn't give up 150K/yr I'd be surprised. The world is full of smart dumb people.

And since they were SRO's (ie supervision) they are likely not union, at least they wouldn't be at my plant.

You would be surprised at the amount of people who can't comprehend the simplest rules of nuclear power. Don't come to work drunk, don't do illegal drugs. I've heard of techs and even guys with licenses losing 100+k/yr jobs for it.
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How do I do that with no union?
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Don't worry, their union scumbag lawyers will grieve and get them back on site.... With back pay

fify
How do I do that with no union?
supervision is rarely unionized. no union can help those dumb bastards. it would take a act of congress / lawyers to get them back inside the power plant.
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Based upon the more detailed link posted earlier on this page, one of the guys seemed to have a surprising amount of cash stashed away for someone in his late 20s, and divorced, and with a kid, and after posting >$20,000 cash to secure a $200,000 bond. I suspect that Burhman was already into some illegal stuff before the movie "The Town" turned him into a violent felon. The botched bank robbery was probably just the next "logical" step for somebody who kept pushing the envelope of his illegal activities.

Pure speculation on my part, but the shoe seems to fit.
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Its more common than you think.
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Wouldn't this cause them to lose their Q clearance anyway? I'm sure that would keep them out of any plant in the country to start with.
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Its more common than you think.
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Originally Posted By maleante:
Internet high-five to someone who actually flees to another country when facing prosecution.

Its more common than you think.
at least abscond to a country with no extradition agreement.
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Vermont Yankee is closing next year, and another may follow. Also the two plants in CA (Diablo Canyon?)that are being shuttered, have people available with licenses.
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
Originally Posted By Danj:
How does this make any sense? They threw away well paying jobs to rob an armored car?

I was thinking the same thing. All I can figure out is some don't like work.



You would not believe the opportunities I have seen wasted. Hell,we are looking for two operators right now due to bad decisions. Starts at 27 something an hour.


Vermont Yankee is closing next year, and another may follow. Also the two plants in CA (Diablo Canyon?)that are being shuttered, have people available with licenses.


I didn't even know VY was closing until tonight.
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Correct.
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