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Posted: 9/13/2005 6:31:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 6:31:21 PM EDT by DOW]
Here's the situation. I've got 2 bathrooms that drain to a common drain pipe. I think the common drain pipe is clogged as my shower in my master bath fills up with waste water when I drain the tub in my main bathroom.

I tried a snake but I don't think it's making the turn I want it to take, in other words it's turning up toward the other bathroom rather than down, where the clog is.

I'm looking for a recommendation on a liquid drain cleaner at this point, before I call a plumber. Any specific brands work well? Who's got experience with this?

TIA
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:33:55 PM EDT
Try hot water first if you have any flow at all. If it helps follow with boiling water...the more the better.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:35:51 PM EDT
Don't overlook calcium (and other mineral) deposits.

My bathroom sink would always clog and none of the drain treatments would help much. I was advised to plunger out all the water (force it over the elbow) and use CLR to break up the deposits and it worked.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:36:02 PM EDT
Use those products ONLY if the water is draining. Otherwise if you call a plumber he/she finds out you put that stuff in the drain, they will charge you extra because the chemcials eat up the plumbing snakes. I put this stuff in my drain when it drains slowly, but never when it is just plain stopped up.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:37:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
Use those products ONLY if the water is draining. Otherwise if you call a plumber he/she finds out you put that stuff in the drain, they will charge you extra because the chemcials eat up the plumbing snakes. I put this stuff in my drain when it drains slowly, but never when it is just plain stopped up.



Yes not to mention that shit burns like a mofo when you have to dig through that water to get something.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:38:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 6:53:33 PM EDT by twonami]
Home Depot sells a industrial strength drain cleaner. I use it on my tub drain when it starts to get slow with hair and body goo. Home Depot version is cheaper but comes in a gallon jug.
The "thick" Draino that comes in the black bottle does the same job too.
ETA: follow the directions on the bottle!
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:38:49 PM EDT
Their success depends on the type of clog. They get Hair/muck clogs, but object blockages are not even touched (obviously). Be sure of what it is. Also, they only work if they are in contact with the clog for enough time, ergo if it's in a trap. If it's an incomplete clog (slow runner) in a long straight run the liquid may run right past it...
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:39:20 PM EDT
The water drains slowly, but it does drain.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:40:29 PM EDT
Can you try snaking it from the roof vents? Maybe an elbow there that will allow the snake go straight towards the clog.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:42:40 PM EDT
Don't have a cleanout below the bad area?
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:45:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By purplecheese:
Can you try snaking it from the roof vents? Maybe an elbow there that will allow the snake go straight towards the clog.




Originally Posted By Burley:
Don't have a cleanout below the bad area?




This is in a condominium. No access to that.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:46:09 PM EDT
Are all those chemicals safe for modern pipes?
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:47:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 6:47:51 PM EDT by Specop_007]

Originally Posted By DOW:

Originally Posted By purplecheese:
Can you try snaking it from the roof vents? Maybe an elbow there that will allow the snake go straight towards the clog.




Originally Posted By Burley:
Don't have a cleanout below the bad area?




This is in a condominium. No easy access to that.



Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:50:11 PM EDT
Pour a lot of clorox down the drains. Rotor Rooter guy told me that years go. After clearing, drop a cup or so in monthly
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 6:51:07 PM EDT
I'm not sure how well Drano works, I'm almost convinced its not nearly as good as they claim. I had a friend who drank a bottle of Drano. He lived and has a variety of problems but nevertheless he lives just fine.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 7:10:31 PM EDT
It's probably just a big turd... just let it be It doesn't sound like drano will work but it's worth a try. Can you go through the sink drain maybe with the snake.. like at the elbow? Good luck
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 7:23:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
Home Depot sells a industrial strength drain cleaner. I use it on my tub drain when it starts to get slow with hair and body goo. Home Depot version is cheaper but comes in a gallon jug.
The "thick" Draino that comes in the black bottle does the same job too.
ETA: follow the directions on the bottle!

+1, I use the same stuff, it's 1/2 to 1/3 of the price, and works better..

I usually let it sit for about 1/2 hour for a slow drain, then rinse with very hot water for 5 minutes or so, treat again if needed..
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 9:10:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 9:10:19 PM EDT by Xer0]
I've had good luck with the balloon end attachment you hook to a hose and pressure blast the crap out. The water pressure makes the balloon expand and seals the hose into the drain and the pressure build-up blasts the crap out. As you have a sink also hooked to the drain, you will have to cap the drain so the water pressure will be forced down through the gunk to blast it out.

Only costs about $10 at Home Depot.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 9:22:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 9:29:58 PM EDT by offctr]
Most draino type chemicals are either bleach or Lye. If you have metallic pipes in the system you can do damage long term using them unless you run lots and lots of water after using them.
As for the snake you are probably getting caught up in the bends of the waste and overflow setup of the tub when you try to snake it. try removing the overflow cover and drain mechanism and snake through there rather than down through the drain. A clog buster or pressure bag (bladder type clog remover) will be difficult to employ with vent pipes and over flows near by a better choice might be an shop vac used on the drain or overflow pipe with the other plugged up as tight as you can. Some tub or shower stall setups employ a "can trap' rather than the usual p-trap in which case the trap wil have to be located , exposed and opened before the line can be cleared.

Do the toilets flushing in the affected bathrooms have any effect ? how about the lav sinks ? can you maybe cable from one of those.. either bight be backed up as well without you noticing it yet....

BTW beware the plumbing supply store "dranos" like "mule kick" or " Hot Shot" as they tend to be concentrated sulfuric acid and can be extremely dangerous to use, to pipes, as well as to You besides unless you can get a drain product right to the clog itself its effectiveness is of course reduced.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 9:28:07 PM EDT
Try some of the build up removers instead of the drain cleaners. I've had great luck over the years with the stuff.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:39:04 AM EDT
Do the hot water deal....follow with plunger if necessary. Job done. NO cost.

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:47:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 10mmFan:
Do the hot water deal....

Boiling hot water from the stove works wonders!
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:01:42 AM EDT
Forget Draino and Liquid Plumber. Go to your local commercial plumbing supply store and ask them for a drain cleaner called Mule Kick. That is the shet. Thay may make you sign a release of liability, the place I buy it does. You have to be careful with it, but it will clear your drains.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:07:37 AM EDT
Worked for Jeffery Dahmer. Can work for you too!
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:08:20 AM EDT
when that happened to us and the liquid plumber didn't work, I plunged the hell out of the shower drain, been running great ever since.

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:22:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By unkempt1:
when that happened to us and the liquid plumber didn't work, I plunged the hell out of the shower drain, been running great ever since.




+1 on plunger method.

Plug the other drains and fill all sinks and the tubs with water. Plunge away.
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