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Posted: 7/24/2013 9:49:52 AM EST
All that nice flat sand looks inviting, but then this happens.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:51:39 AM EST
Truth. Never camp too close to water. Be close enough to get water as needed, but not close enough to get washed away in a flash flood, or wake up in water. Common sense.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:54:18 AM EST
thats Desert living 101
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:54:23 AM EST
Wow, it's like someone yanked out the beads like they were rip-starting a lawnmower.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:57:35 AM EST
Looks like a typical Saturday morning in my bathroom.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:58:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/24/2013 9:59:08 AM EST by UFGatorAR]
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Originally Posted By GrandfatherCoyote:

Common sense.
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Unfortunately there does not seem to be much of this around anymore
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:58:57 AM EST
Looks like the smoke monster from Lost
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 9:59:14 AM EST
On more than one occasion in Afghanistan I had to get guys to move the patrol base out of a wadi for that very reason. Sure, looks nice and has nice little dirt walls on the sides for you, but....
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:00:20 AM EST
It happens because the ground is so dry that none of the rainwater soaks in. It's like rain falling in a parking lot only it's a 1000sqmi parking lot. Low ground is bad.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:02:06 AM EST
Sudden big rain upstream?

Almost looks like a damn failure. Wow.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:02:41 AM EST
Christ! Even I know that, and I didn't grow up in AZ.

The stupid get culled.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:02:58 AM EST
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Unfortunately there does not seem to be much of this around anymore
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Originally Posted By UFGatorAR:
Originally Posted By GrandfatherCoyote:

Common sense.


Unfortunately there does not seem to be much of this around anymore


Sadly, this is the truth.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:05:44 AM EST
yeah that would not be a fun way to wake up. nice seeing the tent tumbling down in that crap.

It's amazing seeing some of the flash floods in vegas and we have a lot of flood control set up already.

some areas will get 2 ft of water with only about .25" of rain.

been tempted to ride a tube down the drainage washes during a storm...
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:08:42 AM EST
That guy is kind of a moron to stand in front of it.

Looked like he was gonna get washed away a few times
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:10:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GrandfatherCoyote:


Sadly, this is the truth.
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Originally Posted By UFGatorAR:
Originally Posted By GrandfatherCoyote:

Common sense.


Unfortunately there does not seem to be much of this around anymore


Sadly, this is the truth.


The thing about Common Sense is that it isn't.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:12:38 AM EST
The storms that generate this mess can be 10 miles away and you don't even know they are dumping this water until it is coming at you.

Yes that was a sandstone boulder the size of a prius rolling down stream!....

San Rafeal Swell Utah ?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:12:58 AM EST
Certainly don't see that every day.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:14:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
All that nice flat sand looks inviting, but then this happens.

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Applies to creek beds as well. Saw a family lose all their gear and barely get out with their lives when a flash flood hit their creek bed camp site in Oklahoma.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:15:51 AM EST
Holy shit, that was incredible!
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:19:15 AM EST
Nature will fuck you up.....
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:19:43 AM EST
Dry Fly or Wet Fly?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:24:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Him:
Christ! Even I know that, and I didn't grow up in AZ.

The stupid get culled.
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Yep

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Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:25:27 AM EST
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This.

It is surprisingly easy to die.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:38:20 AM EST
I grew up in Az and Utah, and have seen this first hand, albeit from higher ground. My dad and I were hunting in Az in Aravaipa Canyon in August and came across some city folks from Phoenix who were out wheeling their Bronco in the canyon when a flash flood came through.They escaped, but only after their entire rig got swept out from under them...play stupid games and all that.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:53:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:53:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
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riverbed wasn't dry
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:55:27 AM EST
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riverbed wasn't dry
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Originally Posted By wingnutx:
All that nice flat sand looks inviting, but then this happens.



riverbed wasn't dry


And no one was camping.

And it's a repost.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:58:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BTccw:
The storms that generate this mess can be 10 miles away and you don't even know they are dumping this water until it is coming at you.

Yes that was a sandstone boulder the size of a prius rolling down stream!....

San Rafeal Swell Utah ?
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Trailride got mangled a couple of years ago by a flash flood. Bunch of trucks in a canyon got washed away. Luckily all the people were able to climb out but a bunch of really nice trucks got drowned and or carried away and smashed.

Those thunderheads off in the distance are always something I pay attention to when out in the desert.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:59:43 AM EST
My Great-Grandad called those "GullyWhumpers"

They kill a lot of folks.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:02:41 AM EST
Guy filming was an idiot
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:03:32 AM EST
Pretty neat video.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:11:00 AM EST
Don't let the FSA know this advice.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:13:36 AM EST
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"Occupy 'Dry' Riverbeds!"
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:14:00 AM EST
crazy, but yeah, one should use common sense and understand that in order for something to dry out, it needs to be wet first.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:20:39 AM EST
that is freaking gnarly! camera guy is either a dumbass or has some big ole balls
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:22:31 AM EST
reminds me of when I was in jr high, my family went camping in Palo Duro Canyon in the TX panhandle. Our campsite was down in the canyon, and you had to drive through two low water crossings to get to it. June is the big stormy season up there, and a big one came, nearly flipped our popup camper with all five of us in it. The elderly couple at the campsite next to us drove out before the storm hit, and then came back right as the flash flood hit the low water crossings, raising the water flow about 8-9 feet. They drove off in the first one, got swept downstream, and the wife and their dog got caught between the crossings and had to stay out all night in the rain as there was nothing between those crossings but empty canyon. Their truck and the husband went further downstream, and the husband drowned.

We were wondering what was going on at their campsite as their awning was banging away at their fifth wheel camper in the wind all night. We unassed the area as soon as the crossings got lower, as another big storm was hitting the area that evening. Saw a tornado about 30 miles away on the way to Lubbock, freaked me the hell out even more.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:25:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DDiggler:
Wow, it's like someone yanked out the beads like they were rip-starting a lawnmower.

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ISWYDT
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:39:35 AM EST
Cool video. You don't see that everyday.

I've known better than to camp in a dry wash forever, but I've never seen a flash flood like that. Sort of put me to mind of the Japanese sunamis.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:55:29 AM EST
That's a great way to find lots of snakes. I got 10 good size rattlers out in Barstow with a flash flood like that. Crazy amounts of critters come out of that mud once it slows down a little.




Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:03:29 PM EST
Sleep on an air mattress.
Camping trip turns into water thrill ride.
Profit.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:06:35 PM EST
Anyone who camps in a wash is pretty much asking to be drowned. Same thing with the idiots who try to cross a road that's been flooded with moving water. It can rain 25 miles away and flood.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:07:21 PM EST
Imagine that with sidewalls like most washes here have. It is MUCH faster, taller and insane. that seemed tamer than all the ones i've seen.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:11:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Obo2:
yeah that would not be a fun way to wake up. nice seeing the tent tumbling down in that crap.

It's amazing seeing some of the flash floods in vegas and we have a lot of flood control set up already.

some areas will get 2 ft of water with only about .25" of rain.

been tempted to ride a tube down the drainage washes during a storm...
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Vegas has *terrible* floodwater management. When I lived there, anytime it rained for more than an hour, the Charleston underpass was 6 feet under water. Which fucking sucked, because I worked at a door shop on Industrial. Which also flooded whenever someone spilled a big gulp.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:14:15 PM EST
had something similar happen in NM hunting a few years ago. Went form being 105* out to almost having hypothermia riding in our Polaris Ranger from hauling ass to get out of the downpour. We had driven through 30 min before with nothing but dusty trails, but on the way down we had water up to the floorboard.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:15:34 PM EST
Cool! I'm going to go out looking for a nearby dry riverbed.....................................................................................................................................................
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:16:30 PM EST

I would have been running much faster lol

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:21:58 PM EST
mother nature is a bitch that hates stupid people.

Camping 101 folks.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:34:52 PM EST
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I work for the same outfit as the camera man. He works out of our HQ office.
He is not an idiot as far as I can tell. I thought he nabbed some good footage there.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:39:15 PM EST
Doesn't every one in the desert know not to sleep in a wadi?
Do that and you'll never even see the rain storm that killed you.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:44:15 PM EST
Several years ago there was a group of hikers who got caught in a slot canyon by a flash flood. They never found all the bodies.
The freaky part was the rains were several miles away so there was no warning at all.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:58:06 PM EST
That's some pretty cool footage.

Growing up in AZ, we have some crazy flash floods. I've seen the Santa Cruz River raging with water in the monsoon season. Streets & homes get flooded. Here in Arizona we have a "Stupid Motorist" Law for those people who think they can cross a strong flowing stream of water in their chevy cavalier and get stuck or thier car gets washed away and have to be rescued.
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