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Posted: 10/16/2002 9:37:41 AM EDT
[#1]
AMEN!
bottom line: Don't feed the trolls. :P |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 9:40:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2002 9:44:13 AM EDT
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[soapbox]
BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 9:45:37 AM EDT
[#4]
sounds good to me.
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Posted: 10/16/2002 10:05:27 AM EDT
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I originally posted this as a reply to an 88 thread, but deleted it and put it here so as not to antagonize Ed and his attempts to be diplomatic.
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Posted: 10/16/2002 10:22:35 AM EDT
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[beer]
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Posted: 10/16/2002 10:51:41 AM EDT
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smile [:)]
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Posted: 10/16/2002 10:56:56 AM EDT
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Where's the porn?!?!?
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Posted: 10/16/2002 11:01:29 AM EDT
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Watch underthe bridges. We seem to have an infestation lately.
[img]seresmitologicos.net/troll2.gif[/img] Scott |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 11:07:59 AM EDT
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Sometimes silence can be taken as agreement, especially among the deluded. If you tell these morons to STFU (*nicely*, of course [:)]) there is no mistaking silence for assent or tolerance of their views.
If they were so smart to begin with, they wouldn't need such *subtle cues*, but they're not, and they do. KnowwhatImean, Vern? |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 11:38:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: I originally posted this as a reply to an 88 thread, but deleted it and put it here so as not to antagonize Ed and his attempts to be diplomatic. Thanks,my friend for complying with my request to stay on the topic and not attack him on an unrelated issue. FWIW- I am not trying to be diplomatic--not on that particular case---only trying to let a posted topic be discussed without bringing in other pre-existing issues with the poster. Besides,you know my style (a carrot on one hand and a big stick in the other one!)[;)] I am glad to have such understanding and cooperative fellow members as you guys on this board![:)] |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 11:42:17 AM EDT
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Is this anything like "the art of fighting without fighting?" Unless you are Bruce Lee it ain't gonna work. I'm with Dave on this one. (How did I know this would be his view? [rolleyes] *LOL*)
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Posted: 10/16/2002 11:44:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: Is this anything like "the art of fighting without fighting?" Unless you are Bruce Lee it ain't gonna work. I'm with Dave on this one. (How did I know this would be his view? [rolleyes] *LOL*) Thanks, Vern! Edited to add the (way!) over-used quote: "The failure to condemn an activity is indeed, an offer of tacit approval. All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 11:46:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am glad to have such understanding and cooperative fellow members as you guys on this board![:)] Oh, Geez, please be careful about being so nice to Jarhead_22, we don't need him getting a big head--"Bighead_22." [BD] |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 3:19:28 PM EDT
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As usual, I haven’t a clue what you guys are talking about.
Why do I always miss the fun? [>Q] |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 4:46:19 PM EDT
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What's an '88'?
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Posted: 10/16/2002 4:58:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: What's an '88'? the eighth letter of the alphabet is "H"--"HH"=Heil Hitler. Remember that as it crops up often--Mauser88, Hunter88, etc. Mauser88 is banned. Hunter88 is not. |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 5:33:08 PM EDT
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I am in total agreement, if we all refuse to read or respond to its posts, it will go away.
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Posted: 10/16/2002 5:38:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: What's an '88'? the eighth letter of the alphabet is "H"--"HH"=Heil Hitler. Remember that as it crops up often--Mauser88, Hunter88, etc. Mauser88 is banned. Hunter88 is not. [size=5][b]...YET[/b][/size=5] |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 5:55:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: What's an '88'? the eighth letter of the alphabet is "H"--"HH"=Heil Hitler. Thanks, I thought y'all were talking about the WWII German 88mm. [V] |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 6:00:11 PM EDT
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God help the poor slob who inadvertently takes his college graduation year (hint: late 80's) or favorite car (hint: Oldsmobile) as part of his handle...
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Posted: 10/16/2002 6:11:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: God help the poor slob who inadvertently takes his college graduation year (hint: late 80's) or favorite car (hint: Oldsmobile) as part of his handle... Really, it's no biggee. Those who choose the "88" for the "Heil Hitler" reason have a compulsion to expose themselves. They come here with a mission and are quickly taught that a forum board owned by a bunch of unruly Americans of Cuban descent with numerous other Americans of various ethnic backgrounds in attendance do not buy into the racist b.s. They shoot themselves in the foot, and you guys quickly show them the door. This is a good "family" of shooters and we are joined by that. One's ethnic background simply does not matter. They soon leave for more fertile grounds to troll. |
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Posted: 10/16/2002 8:58:48 PM EDT
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What about sniperm88? I've met him in person and he doesn't strike me as the Nazi type.
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Posted: 10/16/2002 9:05:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: What about sniperm88? I've met him in person and he doesn't strike me as the Nazi type. If this is addressed to me, I know nothing about sniperm88, so I doubt very much if he has leanings that way. As I said, those who choose the numbers for the Nazi reason usually express that early and often. I don't know sniperm88 at all, so I surely did not mean to impugn him in the least. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:16:20 AM EDT
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They're obvious from the tenor of their posts. They just can't turn away from their favorite subject for long.
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:22:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I originally posted this as a reply to an 88 thread, but deleted it and put it here so as not to antagonize Ed and his attempts to be diplomatic. Thanks,my friend for complying with my request to stay on the topic and not attack him on an unrelated issue. FWIW- I am not trying to be diplomatic--not on that particular case---only trying to let a posted topic be discussed without bringing in other pre-existing issues with the poster. Besides,you know my style (a carrot on one hand and a big stick in the other one!)[;)] I am glad to have such understanding and cooperative fellow members as you guys on this board![:)] Ed would it be possible for you to e-mail me a phone# so I can call you?? |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:30:37 AM EDT
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Well it is a good thing that my favorite car is the '66 Mustang...because I sure did not know about the 88's![thinking]
I learn something new everyday! BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:35:50 AM EDT
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[b]When he exposes his political,racial,etc view you are welcome to debate him if you disagree with him....while you also abide by THE SAME RULES.
[/b] This is the rule as ed laid it out in a previous thread. I deleted a post because of it.(If it's different, or has changed ED, please let me know) I have given this some thought overnight, and I believe I have come up with a solution to my dilemma. I look forward to testing my new approach...... |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:39:36 AM EDT
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In my opinion, which is not to be confused for board policy, once someone registers a Nazi name, and identifies it as such, every post that shows up from that person is a Nazi post.
But that's just me talking. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:45:14 AM EDT
[#30]
Phone # sent.
There is a misconception that we are not to discuss racial issues. You can say what your views are and people can debate you....as long as you don't generalize in YOUR statements(vs those stated in a "study",article,dissertation,etc),or get into personal attacks,etc. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:46:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: Well it is a good thing that my favorite car is the '66 Mustang... No way!!! The '65 is far superior!!!! Too much gawdy chrome on those '66s. IMHO. --LS |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 6:49:09 AM EDT
[#32]
and let us not forget that S is the 8th letter back from the end, IE 88 can also mean SS
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:03:04 AM EDT
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Wow, never knew about that 88 stuff. Makes sense. I'll remember to ignore his posts.
It's sad how some people are so insecure with themselves that they have to continuously tell themselves and the world how superior they are. Can you say Looooooooserrrrrrrr [%|] |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:10:30 AM EDT
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I'm very much in two minds about this.
One the one hand I agree completely with Jarhead_22's logic, that the best way to get annoying children to shut up is to annoy them. On the other hand, when someone posts something factually incorrect and intended to generate hate or prejudice on a public board, I think it is the responsibility of upstanding people to correct it. My fear is that other people who surf the board might read it and take the lack of stated opposition or disagreement as a sign of our lack of disagreement. My solution is to post factual information and correction to untruths that are posted - without really trying to get into an argument or a personal attack. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:14:06 AM EDT
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Hey now people: let's not get personal. We wouldn't want to hurt a Nazi's feelings.
[img]images.google.com/images?q=tbn:_XUXNP-Nc8gC:www.strike9.com/eq/file.aspx/path%3D/woodshelf/fullsize/anti-nazi.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:19:43 AM EDT
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"Really, it's no biggee. Those who choose the "88" for the "Heil Hitler" reason have a compulsion to expose themselves. They come here with a mission and are quickly taught that a forum board owned by a bunch of unruly Americans of Cuban descent with numerous other Americans of various ethnic backgrounds in attendance do not buy into the racist b.s. They shoot themselves in the foot, and you guys quickly show them the door. This is a good "family" of shooters and we are joined by that. One's ethnic background simply does not matter. They soon leave for more fertile grounds to troll. "
They can't leave soon enough to suit me. One of the big problems that anti-gun people have with the pro gun point of view is that when they decide to check it out, they sometimes (often?) run across racists assholes, and it is far too easy for them to make a connection. The same can be said about conservative/right-wing. I don't know what the best solution is. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:24:15 AM EDT
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Well lets see if H is the 8th letter of the alphabet and that means F is the 6th letter so lets register some names with 68 then [:D]
686868686868 |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:26:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: In my opinion, which is not to be confused for board policy, once someone registers a Nazi name, and identifies it as such, every post that shows up from that person is a Nazi post. If someone is known to be a Nazi and posts about the NRA,I do not see a reason to attack him on his racial,political views. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:37:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: If someone is known to be a Nazi and posts about the NRA,I do not see a reason to attack him on his racial,political views. Right, but if everytime that person posts, they have their loser Nazi shorthand "88," as well as an advertisement for a loser Nazi book next to their post, what then? Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not some softheaded, multi-culti, hands across America, cardigan wearing, kumbaya singing, all-inclusive wanker. But I draw the frickin' line at Nazis. I don't want anything to do with them, or anything to do with anywhere they're made to feel welcome. First I came out swinging, and was told that was a little too harsh, to moderate my posts. Fine. Now I'm advocating just ignoring them. I don't see a third way. You can't argue facts with them: they don't acknowledge reality, so facts are meaningless to them. I don't know where to go from here. I seriously take their shit personally, especially when it's in a place where I otherwise feel at home. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:38:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: In my opinion, which is not to be confused for board policy, once someone registers a Nazi name, and identifies it as such, every post that shows up from that person is a Nazi post. But that's just me talking. YEP! every post is a political statement. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:47:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: If someone is known to be a Nazi and posts about the NRA,I do not see a reason to attack him on his racial,political views. Right, but if everytime that person posts, they have their loser Nazi shorthand "88," as well as an advertisement for a loser Nazi book next to their post, what then? Well, like it or not, they haven't violated existing board code up to this point. There's not much you can do [i]at this point[/i]. Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not some softheaded, multi-culti, hands across America, cardigan wearing, kumbaya singing, all-inclusive wanker. But I draw the frickin' line at Nazis. I don't want anything to do with them, or anything to do with anywhere they're made to feel welcome. I understand, believe me. First I came out swinging, and was told that was a little too harsh, to moderate my posts. Fine. Now I'm advocating just ignoring them. I don't see a third way. You can't argue facts with them: they don't acknowledge reality, so facts are meaningless to them. I don't know where to go from here. There [i]is[/i] a third way. Demolish his argument. Rip it to shreds. Expose it for what it truly is. BUT do so within the bounds of the board code. If his contentions are truly bogus, refuting them without personal insults ought to be pretty easy. Nobody's saying you need to ignore him, or that you can't debate him. Just do it within the code, and you can pillory anyone's point of view that you want to. I seriously take their shit personally, especially when it's in a place where I otherwise feel at home. I know... |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:48:15 AM EDT
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I don't understand how ANY American can embrace the Nazi party. They are IN FACT Sociailists. I can understand they are drawn to it by racial views but it is Socialism as much as the Democratic Party (whom the profess to hate) is.
I'm no fan of Israel (their politics and not the people) but I wouldn't join the American Communist Party simply because they ALSO opposed Israels politics. Thr bottom line is Nazis are "National Socialists" that is what the word stands for. It is not a party of Freedom. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:53:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: First I came out swinging, and was told that was a little too harsh, to moderate my posts. Fine. Now I'm advocating just ignoring them. I don't see a third way. You can't argue facts with them: they don't acknowledge reality, so facts are meaningless to them. I don't know where to go from here. I seriously take their shit personally, especially when it's in a place where I otherwise feel at home. Just be patient. Nazi's are hardly made to feel welcome here. The rules are merely applied equally to everyone. I too am a bit dismayed over what to "do," if anything. I tried in the current thread. Cooperation was not forthcoming. Remember--"this too shall pass." Nazi ideas and dogma cannot stand, and will not matter. Try not to let it bother you. It's what you served to protect in one sense--political ideas, even unpopular ones. The price of Liberty. . . . [USA] |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 7:59:40 AM EDT
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Can't we request via poll or whatever the removal of certain members whom the membership feel are detrimental to the goals of this forum, e.g. spouting Nazi-isms often in General Discussion?? I am married to a fine Jewish lady (she puts up with me so she has to be fine) and tire of Hunter88's going on and on about Israel and the Jews. What next, pogroms??
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Posted: 10/17/2002 8:01:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Right, but if everytime that person posts, they have their loser Nazi shorthand "88," as well as an advertisement for a loser Nazi book next to their post, what then? Well, like it or not, they haven't violated existing board code up to this point. There's not much you can do [i]at this point[/i]. Oh, then AR15.Com should definitely grant them an internet soapbox for their asinine, murderous philosophy. By picking a name and indentifying it with the Nazis, they have already shown us the endgame of their ideas. I get a warm feeling knowing that I'm associated with a place that gives them a big wet kiss. Can I change my username to "KillMudPeople?" If not, why not? It means the same thing that "Hunter88" does. There [i]is[/i] a third way. Demolish his argument. Rip it to shreds. Expose it for what it truly is. BUT do so within the bounds of the board code. If his contentions are truly bogus, refuting them without personal insults ought to be pretty easy. Nobody's saying you need to ignore him, or that you can't debate him. Just do it within the code, and you can pillory anyone's point of view that you want to. No, I've already said --and a quick reading of any thread they're involved in will demonstrate-- that they don't address facts. They don't accept facts. They don't acknowledge reality. "Heil Hitler" is the most un-American thing you can say, yet they claim to be all for America. How is that as a place to start with facts? Facts go right through their brains without any impact or effect, like neutrinos. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 8:04:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: Facts go right through their brains.... Do their kind have those?? |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 8:20:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Right, but if everytime that person posts, they have their loser Nazi shorthand "88," as well as an advertisement for a loser Nazi book next to their post, what then? Well, like it or not, they haven't violated existing board code up to this point. There's not much you can do [i]at this point[/i]. Oh, then AR15.Com should definitely grant them an internet soapbox for their asinine, murderous philosophy. By picking a name and indentifying it with the Nazis, they have already shown us the endgame of their ideas. I get a warm feeling knowing that I'm associated with a place that gives them a big wet kiss. Can I change my username to "KillMudPeople?" If not, why not? It means the same thing that "Hunter88" does. I would hardly say that this site or its members haven given our self-proclaimed nazi visitors a "big wet kiss". Hardly. There [i]is[/i] a third way. Demolish his argument. Rip it to shreds. Expose it for what it truly is. BUT do so within the bounds of the board code. If his contentions are truly bogus, refuting them without personal insults ought to be pretty easy. Nobody's saying you need to ignore him, or that you can't debate him. Just do it within the code, and you can pillory anyone's point of view that you want to. No, I've already said --and a quick reading of any thread they're involved in will demonstrate-- that they don't address facts. They don't accept facts. They don't acknowledge reality. Well maybe [i]they[/i] don't, but lots of other viewers/readers [i]do[/i]. By demolishing his arguments in public, you help innoculate people you don't even know against nazism. But if you feel ignoring the individual and what he says is the way to go, more power to you. I'm not trying to criticise your approach, just pointing out that there are other points of view. "Heil Hitler" is the most un-American thing you can say, yet they claim to be all for America. How is that as a place to start with facts? Facts go right through their brains without any impact or effect, like neutrinos. It's like with the Antis. When you discuss RKBA with an Anti, wou're not really trying to persuade [i]them[/i]. What's inportant is to persuade the fence-sitters. The committed Antis probably can't be reached. The uncommitted folks are the ones we have to reach. Same thing with Nazis, only different. [:D] |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 8:29:11 AM EDT
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I know...I should just engage in a high-minded dialogue about these neo-Nazis...but I can't help myself.
Do you guys remember my smart-assed comment about what's so cool about Nazis? It's that the men of the Greatest Generation killed so damn many of the rotten bastards! [;D] (Am I in trouble again?) Jarhead...it's a good idea anyway. I'll just ignore them. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 8:46:31 AM EDT
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raf, you either avoided, dodged or missed my question: Can I change my username to "KillMudPeople?" If not, why not?
Fuck it. I've decided to argue with incontrovertible facts. We'll see how this goes. |
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Posted: 10/17/2002 8:51:18 AM EDT
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I didn't mean to ignore your question. I'll IM you.
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