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Posted: 8/21/2005 7:32:36 PM EDT
Dogs are totally dependant on their masters and willingly submit to servitude for food. They willing submit to mistreatment and come back wagging their tails as long they are fed.

Cats, while realizing their masters are a necessary evil, prefer independance and would rather be left alone except when they absolutely need their masters for something. Treat them bad and they will attack.

Discuss.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:33:33 PM EDT



Agree !!



Waiting for the dog apologists!! Wolves are free - dogs are slaves!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:34:54 PM EDT
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:37:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.



Think outside the box grasshoper.

Not all cats are those furry little speed bumps you see in the road. There are MUCH bigger ones.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:37:46 PM EDT
Dogs are also loyal and useful. Cats generally serve no useful purpose other than to be a pain in the ass to everyone around them.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:38:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.



Think outside the box grasshoper.

Not all cats are those furry little speed bumps you see in the road. There are MUCH bigger ones.



He is discussing housecats, sensei.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:39:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:40:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Dogs are also loyal and useful. Cats generally serve no useful purpose other than to be a pain in the ass to everyone around them.



Cats control rodents and can be quite loyal. Try again.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:41:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 7:42:45 PM EDT by rifleman2000]

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.



That is certainly true of my old cat... neighborhood German sheperd sniffed him once, got her nose scratched... and both animals went at full speed in opposite directions.



ETA: The only thing my cat was not afraid of was small kittens and butterflies, and he never passed up a chance to beat up on either.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:42:53 PM EDT
Dogs will also take care of you when sick. Cats are just 'I don't care if your sick, I want food now, its all about me and my needs.'

Dogs, 'Oh, your sick, thats not good. Come, I can forgo eating for today, you rest and I'll keep you warm.' *time passes by and your chest gets exposed to the cold air*

Dog: Oh no, he's gonna get sicker! *crawls up and acts like a blanket to keep your pneamonia (sp) from getting worse.*


FYI: My dog did that. Knew I was very sick, didn't complain to go out or eat. When the blanket exposed my chest to the cold apartment air, I woke up with his body across my chest keeping me warm.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:43:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Dogs are also loyal and useful. Cats generally serve no useful purpose other than to be a pain in the ass to everyone around them.



Cats control rodents and can be quite loyal. Try again.



Not true.

A dog can easly make better mouser that your average lazy cat.

Cat are only loyal to themselves.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:44:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Agree !!




+1
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:44:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Skald:
Dogs will also take care of you when sick. Cats are just 'I don't care if your sick, I want food now, its all about me and my needs.'

Dogs, 'Oh, your sick, thats not good. Come, I can forgo eating for today, you rest and I'll keep you warm.' *time passes by and your chest gets exposed to the cold air*

Dog: Oh no, he's gonna get sicker! *crawls up and acts like a blanket to keep your pneamonia (sp) from getting worse.*


FYI: My dog did that. Knew I was very sick, didn't complain to go out or eat. When the blanket exposed my chest to the cold apartment air, I woke up with his body across my chest keeping me warm.




Yep. Full on democrat there.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:44:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Skald:
Dogs will also take care of you when sick. Cats are just 'I don't care if your sick, I want food now, its all about me and my needs.'

Dogs, 'Oh, your sick, thats not good. Come, I can forgo eating for today, you rest and I'll keep you warm.' *time passes by and your chest gets exposed to the cold air*

Dog: Oh no, he's gonna get sicker! *crawls up and acts like a blanket to keep your pneamonia (sp) from getting worse.*


FYI: My dog did that. Knew I was very sick, didn't complain to go out or eat. When the blanket exposed my chest to the cold apartment air, I woke up with his body across my chest keeping me warm.



I would be impressed if your dog served you breakfast in bed.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:45:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Cat are only loyal to themselves.



Exactly!

They are not bound by some alpha-male genetic programming to "love" you and be nice, but rather choose to hang out with you.



Either that - or they know you are a source of food
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:46:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Cat are only loyal to themselves.



Gotta respect that, cats are true capitalists. Dogs are obviously socialists, always looking out for the "greater good."
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:46:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Cat are only loyal to themselves.



Exactly!

They are not bound by some alpha-male genetic programming to "love" you and be nice, but rather choose to hang out with you.



Either that - or they know you are a source of food



Exactly my point!! The dog people are arguing my point!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:46:53 PM EDT
You just pissed this one off.

Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:48:11 PM EDT
Dogs are republicans, they are just in the "pack" aka the military

They are loyal to family and will fight off threats. A cat will to jack if someone breaks in your house. Dogs are ALWAYS on alert; I've never heard of a watch cat.

Besides dogs can hunt with you, drink with you and will do as commanded. A cat is always self centered and doesn't care about anything else just like democraps.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:49:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 7:51:27 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Cat are only loyal to themselves.



Gotta respect that, cats are true capitalists. Dogs are obviously socialists, always looking out for the "greater good."



Ass backwards.

No cats are Anarchist with Socialist tilt whose sole concern is for themselves and what kind of handout they can get from you. Cats live on welfare.


While a Dog will do a honest days work hunting, heading, guarding ect. and not bitch about his reward.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:50:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.



Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:52:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.



"bring it on, Fido!"
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:52:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty



Neo-Fascist dogs, obviously.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:53:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 7:54:25 PM EDT by SIG_220]

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.



Sounds like a pussy dog to me. My dog was tormented by my moms cat when he was a puppy and I moved back in temporarily ( I was 19 at the time). He got all scratched up. Now he would literally eat a cat if he could. He despises them and literally has no fear of any animal regardless of size. He is very smart besides his huge self image. Well there is one thing he is scared of. He isn't fond of baloons .

While cats are clever at times they are not as smart as canines. I am only speaking of the household variety. I'm just going off of what I learned in animal behavior. I have a BS in Zoology.

Anyways here is a pic of my pooch enjoying a snack:
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:54:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 7:54:33 PM EDT by pattymcn]

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty



Neo-Fascist dogs, obviously.



Well they are GERMAN shorthaired Pointers! Patty
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:55:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.



Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty



Ha! First sensible post here, BUT, your dogs are trained while most pet dogs are not and your dogs would have to be LRRPs to sneak up on or catch my cat.

And they are tools of your training, like the demo sheep, while my cat retains her independance and refuses to be trained by her governor.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:55:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.



"bring it on, Fido!"
www.pchomeservice.ch/familie/mirjam/tiger/tiger5.jpg



Tigers are regular cats that use steroids. Barry Bonds is their idle. Discuss.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:56:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty



Neo-Fascist dogs, obviously.



Cats are very French...
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:58:21 PM EDT
The mere fact that dogs allow themselve to be trained by their masters proves my point.

Cats just wont do that, their independance is more important to them than approval or a handout.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:59:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.



Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty



Ha! First sensible post here, BUT, your dogs are trained while most pet dogs are not and your dogs would have to be LRRPs to sneak up on or catch my cat.

And they are tools of your training, like the demo sheep, while my cat retains her independance and refuses to be trained by her governor.



Pooby hon, my dogs are trained NOT to kill cats. The desire to kill them is inherant. Just last fall I had my dog point a cat and hand retrieve it to me - kicking and flinging its claws every which way. How I wish I had a camera for that! But seriously, Dogs are at the top of the food chain in regards to common house cats. At least most sporting dogs are. Patty
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:59:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
The mere fact that dogs allow themselve to be trained by their masters proves my point.

Cats just wont do that, their independance is more important to them than approval or a handout.



You married or single?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:01:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:
Cats get eaten by dogs. Discuss.

Haha, otherwise I agree.




Not true. Smart dogs usually avoid cats after their first encounter. While I'm sure there are cases of dogs eating cats, most times when a dog attacks a cat he gets his nose handed to him all bloody.



Pooby please. Nothing against cats but my dogs would kill one faster than you can say Bobs My uncle. Patty



Ha! First sensible post here, BUT, your dogs are trained while most pet dogs are not and your dogs would have to be LRRPs to sneak up on or catch my cat.

And they are tools of your training, like the demo sheep, while my cat retains her independance and refuses to be trained by her governor.



Pooby hon, my dogs are trained NOT to kill cats. The desire to kill them is inherant. Just last fall I had my dog point a cat and hand retrieve it to me - kicking and flinging its claws every which way. How I wish I had a camera for that! But seriously, Dogs are at the top of the food chain in regards to common house cats. At least most sporting dogs are. Patty



That doesnt change the fact I am right. Just because a dog may be tougher, or stronger than a cat doesnt mean he is unwilling to subjugate himself to his master for food.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:02:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
The mere fact that dogs allow themselve to be trained by their masters proves my point.

Cats just wont do that, their independance is more important to them than approval or a handout.



You married or single?



Divorced.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:03:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

That doesnt change the fact I am right. Just because a dog may be tougher, or stronger than a cat doesnt mean he is unwilling to subjugate himself to his master for food.



Cats on the dole… never working a day in their lives. Welfare kitties.

If cats were magically transformed in to people you would find them on the corner cleaning windshealds with spit for handouts.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:07:34 PM EDT
dogs have to be housebroken (taught not to shit on the floor), cats mostly use a litter box out of instinct.

Dogs leave big turds in your yard, cats leave little ones but only if they can't bury them
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:08:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

That doesnt change the fact I am right. Just because a dog may be tougher, or stronger than a cat doesnt mean he is unwilling to subjugate himself to his master for food.



Cats on the dole… never working a day in their lives. Welfare kitties.

If cats were magically transformed in to people you would find them on the corner cleaning windshealds with spit for handouts.



That would be called "working".

Oh, and feral cats are all over here in Florida, they survive just fine without humans.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:09:11 PM EDT
Dogs contirbute.

Cats are useless.

Therefore Dogs are Republicans and cats are Democrats.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:09:26 PM EDT
Jeeze does that mean the gerbil I had as a kid was really smart also? He never listened to anything I said .

A cat is more independent because domesticated cats still act on their instincts way more than dogs, and they just aren't as social of a species.

It's fact that canines are smarter. Do a little research. It really won't take much to prove yourself wrong. I'm not trying to burst your bubble.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:11:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Dogs contirbute.

Cats are useless.

Therefore Dogs are Republicans and cats are Democrats.




Please show your work.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:11:13 PM EDT
Nah, if my dog was a Democrap, since I'm a White Male with a Gun, he would have left me out in the cold screaming 'Virus killer!' at me and trying to get the ACLU after my ass
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:12:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:12:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SIG_220:
Jeeze does that mean the gerbil I had as a kid was really smart also? He never listened to anything I said .

A cat is more independent because domesticated cats still act on their instincts way more than dogs, and they just aren't as social of a species.

It's fact that canines are smarter. Do a little research. It really won't take much to prove yourself wrong. I'm not trying to burst your bubble.



But in my thread, that would be YOUR job.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:14:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 8:15:58 PM EDT by SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
The mere fact that dogs allow themselve to be trained by their masters proves my point.

Cats just wont do that, their independance is more important to them than approval or a handout.



The mere fact that dogs are CAPABLE of being trained show they are more evolved than cats.

You need to look up the word "domestication."

Dogs are capable of being trained and learning because they have a greater capacity for intelligence.

Cats are not of the same capacity but simply "politically independent" as you suggest. By that token sheep must be Constitutionalists because they can't be trained to do a fucking thing.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:17:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Dogs contirbute.

Cats are useless.

Therefore Dogs are Republicans and cats are Democrats.




Please show your work.



Face it, not only are cats Democrats, they are welfare recipient Democrats.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:17:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By SIG_220:
Jeeze does that mean the gerbil I had as a kid was really smart also? He never listened to anything I said .

A cat is more independent because domesticated cats still act on their instincts way more than dogs, and they just aren't as social of a species.

It's fact that canines are smarter. Do a little research. It really won't take much to prove yourself wrong. I'm not trying to burst your bubble.



But in my thread, that would be YOUR job.



Meh... I don't really feel like it. I've already had classes that let me know I'm right. It's not really worth the effort to do any real research.

The fall semester for Dental School starts tommorow. It's a mere 26hrs of credit. That's enough studying for me thanks.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:17:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:19:12 PM EDT
Pooby there's something to be said about dogs are willing to work while cats are leeches off a working society. Patty
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:19:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
The mere fact that dogs allow themselve to be trained by their masters proves my point.

Cats just wont do that, their independance is more important to them than approval or a handout.



The mere fact that dogs are CAPABLE of being trained show they are more evolved than cats.

You need to look up the word "domestication."

Dogs are capable of being trained and learning because they have a greater capacity for intelligence.

Cats are not of the same capacity but simply "politically independent" as you suggest. By that token sheep must be Constitutionalists because they can't be trained to do a fucking thing.



Sorry, but you have no clue of what you are talking about...




Dogs are more intelligent than cats. What part don't you get?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:20:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:20:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:21:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
The mere fact that dogs allow themselve to be trained by their masters proves my point.

Cats just wont do that, their independance is more important to them than approval or a handout.



The mere fact that dogs are CAPABLE of being trained show they are more evolved than cats.

You need to look up the word "domestication."

Dogs are capable of being trained and learning because they have a greater capacity for intelligence.

Cats are not of the same capacity but simply "politically independent" as you suggest. By that token sheep must be Constitutionalists because they can't be trained to do a fucking thing.



Sorry, but you have no clue of what you are talking about...




No clue about cats or Constitutionalists?
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