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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:31:13 PM EDT
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It has some areas I have been in that I dont plan to go to again. But its the major city in driving distance for me.
Augusta where I live have issues too. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:32:14 PM EDT
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{- - - Racist-sounding comment deleted - - - } 
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:32:45 PM EDT
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No offense to any natives, but Atlanta is one city in the South where I would NEVER live.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:33:29 PM EDT
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Atlanta has many serious problems.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:35:20 PM EDT
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I worked there quite often 15-20 years ago. It was a shithole then. It's gotten much worse. The CoC forbids me to tell you how I really feel.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:36:59 PM EDT
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I got caught and surrounded in taxi at about midnight downtown Hotlanta once... right in the middle of "FreakNik".  Yeah, it was just like that.  |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:41:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:43:28 PM EDT
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You wonder does CNN really go to some countries or just go to certain parts of town and film there to save money. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:47:41 PM EDT
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I've worked in Hotlanta and I've worked in Memphis. Shitholes both.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:49:22 PM EDT
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Good point. I've seen footage of freaknik and some of it was unbelievable...shit that would frighten Caligula.... -HS |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:51:30 PM EDT
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I was watching one of our friends on Fox news the other night and it had two "guest's" on there...both being african american. They both pretty much agreed that Atlanta has a "Black-First" policy for elections. Now, having said that, I have no problem with it.....except for when it gets people killed. On a side note...I took my wife and daughter and one of her friends to Six Flags Atlanta a year or so ago. I will never go back there again if I can help it......reverse-racism ( is that a real term) is alive and flourishing...at least it is in Atlanta. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:56:05 PM EDT
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Its different from any other large city HOW?
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:56:20 PM EDT
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Yessir. Their "Election Policy" is one of their biggest pitfalls. OReilly was talking about that on his radio show tonight. Sounds to me like quite a few of their City and County Officials need to be removed from office for dereliction of duty.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:58:03 PM EDT
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You will find that happens alot in certain areas of the south see it where I live all the time too, you get used to it in an angry pissed off sorta way. Seen signs at the flea market people had hung up on their booths that said "A black dollar is a terrible thing to waste, Support your Black vendors" They also had shirts. If they had those signs I decided that they must not want my "white dollars" and took them elsewhere. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:08:28 PM EDT
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How?? I'll tell ya...The city of Atlanta Georgia has a hire black first policy.....to hell with qualifications. It doesn't matter if you were the head of the C.I.A. you can't get a job there as a police chief unless your black. Before YOU start screaming racism , let me tell you now...I'm not about that...I want the most qualified individual for the job in there irregardless if it's an albino midget, a one-eyed cyclops, or a fellow by the name of Lumpy. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:09:49 PM EDT
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It has a smaller population than Mesa AZ, but Mesa is NOWHERE near as savage of a city. It's a shithole because of the PEOPLE and their "kulture", not the size. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:12:39 PM EDT
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Ah so a large minority population, and a city government that plays favorites is unique to Atlanta. Gotcha.
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:16:52 PM EDT
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Can you name one...just one other city in these United States that publicly admits that it has a race-based hiring policy? Hell, even Detroit won't make this kind of statement. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:18:22 PM EDT
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Ever been to Detroit? ETA... LOL you posted about Detroit too! LOL! Detroit may not make it official stated policy, but it's the way it is nonetheless. Hey, it's a Kulture thang! The thing is - name a large city with a small minority population and you'll find it at the bottom of the crimestat list for major cities. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:23:36 PM EDT
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Quite often. Im from Michigan. That was called sarchasm. www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx TUCSON, per capita, is ahead of Atlanta for "savagery." But, Tucson doesnt have nearly as large of a black population, so I guess the agenda is ahead of the facts in this case. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 11:42:21 PM EDT
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Lumpy, I will respond again as there is not a whole lot else going on here right now. I might also add that I see that you are a moderator here so I will mind my pint's and quarts's. My initial intentions with my original statement might have had a shade of " what the hell". I live right out of Nashville, I've been in the South my whole life....no, I'm not one of those "the South Will Rise Again" guys....but I can see something going wrong with one of our beloved cities here in the South. Call it affirmative action, call it politically correct...hell, call it whatever the hell you want to call it. I call it a problem....now, you folks out west in Arizona seem to have an uncanny interest in the South-Eastern United States for some reason...I'm glad you do...you'll never meet a better group of people than you can here. But trust me when I say that when us Southerners admit a problem here in our neck of the woods...it IS really a problem. We don't "fake it" down here. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 12:13:50 AM EDT
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Huh!?? What kind of list is that? Larceny and auto-theft are heavily skewing the results and shouldn't even be factored in with violent crimes like murder, rape or aggravted assault. Try this: Crime Rates Of Largest Cities Atlanta is FAR more "savage" than Mesa, Tuscon or anywhere in Arizona - even the least-white, most hispanic areas. Seems the most violent cities are also those with the highest percentage of Black people. Not even higher poverty rates can account for such an incredibly rate of violent crime in the cities with the highest black populations - because cities with higher poverty rates but much lower black populations (like Albuquerque, El Paso or Fresno) are nowhere near as violent/dangerous as places like Atlanta, Detroit, New Orleans or D.C. Face it - you want to find a high-violent-crime area, forget looking for high poverty areas, just look for high-black-population areas. That's the strongest indicator of "savagery" in the city. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 12:22:02 AM EDT
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The truth no one talks about. What is the percentage of prison population, by race, by the way? I do think it is a cultural thing, by the way - because a certain segment of the population does not value education and the proper upbringing of children as they should. Bill Cosby hit the nail on the head on the subject, and got ridiculed for what he said. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 12:24:33 AM EDT
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An uncomfortable but true statement.....You my friend....Macallan...are the most uncomfortable sort...you dastardly fiend. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 12:28:12 AM EDT
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Very good point...the ratio's don't work out...but than again...it's all because of "The Man" |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 12:41:41 AM EDT
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I will agree that Atlanta has some major problems, and I believe the major portion of the problems come from the city goverment. Thankfully "Freaknik" have come and gone as a thing of the past. The city goverment, I would venture to say is more corrupt than the goverment of Chicago. Only in Atlanta have I seen 350k-450k "starter homes on one side of the street and 300/mo apartments on the other side of the street. I lived inside the city for a while (buckhead neighborhood), and I can't count how many times I would have beggars come up to my place and beg for money or claim to want to do odd jobs around the house. Hell I had one guy claim that he had washed my car (without my permission) and that I owed him 20 bucks. I asked him why he would be messing around with my car without my permission, and why I owed him money. After that I slammed the door in his face and went back to what I was doing.
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Posted: 3/16/2005 1:15:11 AM EDT
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Atlanta is SO BAD that it even sucks to take a shit on her soil.
For example: They raised the rates of water and sewer VERY high due to aging sewers that need replacing. So.....if my actual water useage runs $25 for the month, my sewer bill will be around $75 that month,around TRIPLE the cost of the water which then cost me a $100 for water and sewer bill. It don't matter if that water goes down their stinkin sewer pipes or on your lawn,grass,etc. you are charged for it... 
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Posted: 3/16/2005 3:03:07 AM EDT
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Actually it all started going downhill with the carpetbaggers... |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 3:31:59 AM EDT
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My brother lived there from around '85 to '95 before moving to Charlotte.Best part of him being there was having family so close during my family weekend in basic at Benning. My parents went to visit him once and my mom was robbed in the stairwell of his complex. He likes Charlotte much better, I can tell you. I think the thread starter is stretching things a bit by drawing a conclusion from two incidents seperated by eight years, but overall the city does seem to have some safety issues it needs to address.
*post contains personal opinion only* |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 3:33:43 AM EDT
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That sounds like our small town in KY . . . but we actually built a sewage treatment plant that can handle 3 times what the city can produce after the chili cook off . . . |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 4:23:39 AM EDT
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I saw that interview on O'Reilly and one of the blacks clearly stated the the 'black first' election empahsis in Atlanta has resulted in incompetent elected officials in the city. This gentleman said that Atlanta is well known for blacks seeking to open businesses, etc, but voting record there has in harming the city. Did anyone pay attention to the post capture interviews in Atlanta? While the Gwinnett County Police Chief, US District Attorney even the Atlanta Polcie Chief were well spoken, the Fulton County Sheriff was a stumbling indiot who sounded like he should have been out cutting yards. Was he the same guy who fired all of the whites in the sheriff's department a couple of months ago? |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 4:33:57 AM EDT
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Atlanta seems to be falling under the spell of African Tribalism which will result in somthing that was once an ongoing city becoming simply another Somali,Mogadshu.
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:04:46 AM EDT
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+1. Very well put. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:32:27 AM EDT
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There is nothing wrong with Atlanta that cannot be fixed by William T. Sherman and a few Zippos...
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:36:27 AM EDT
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Actually it was Clayton county sherrif that fired all the whites. Clayton is one county south of Fulton County (Atlanta) And Irish, damn you for mentioning that name!!!!! |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:37:32 AM EDT
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First off, I do not live in downtown Atlanta. I live in a suburb.
I have traveled to almost every major city in the USA. On almost every visit, it was not long before I could not wait to get back to Atlanta. I do not know my way around other cities, so I did not know of what areas to avoid. Now, for anyone here to bitch about Atlanta having too many black officials is bullshit. The city of Atlanta has a population of approximately 600,000 people. Of those people, about 75% are black. I would fully expect a majority black city to have a majority black government. If you think that Atlanta is the only city with a majority of black officials, you are wrong. What about Detroit, Denver, New Orleans, Memphis, Washington D.C., L.A.(hispanic), Philadelphia and countless others? I would take Shirley Franklin, even though I do not like her, over Richard Daley, Rudy Gulliani, Marion Barry, Michael Bloomberg, Wellington Webb, Willie Herndon, and a hundred other socialist idiots that run other major cities in this country. Metro Atlanta is one of the cleanest, safest, and most diverse areas that I have ever been. My neighbors are black, white, and asian. I have not the first problem with any of them. Does our city have issues? Sure. Every city does. Could the whole fiasco in Fulton County been handled differently? Sure. I would expect that there will be alot of changes after this. However, hindsight is always 20/20. The Fulton County Sheriffs Department has been undergoing HUGE changes in personell and policy. Everything can not be turned around overnight. With the exception of Nashville, there is no other major city in the south that I would rather live. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:49:31 AM EDT
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My problem with Atlanta stems from their hiring policies, and the actions of their gov't in general.
I don't care if the elected officials are all black. The ones in my city are all black, and they do a great job considering what they have to work with. When I got out of the Marines, I had the idea that I wanted to be a police officer. At the same time in Atlanta, there was a police crisis going on, and officers were quitting everyday. I set up an interwiew with the HR reps from APD, and got a prelimenary phone interview. I was told that due to city policy, there where black applicants who would be hired before me, even though the were less qualified, and had applied after me. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:50:09 AM EDT
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Man, all you guys that don't even live here sure do know. Wow. (that was sarcasm)
Edited out what I really want to say. There are problems everywhere, Atlanta certainly does not corner the market. ByteTheBullet (-: |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:51:34 AM EDT
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He's dead, fool. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:55:02 AM EDT
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I'm from next door-- Milwaukee, WI. Detroit... Well, let's just say that it's hard to pick between Detroit, Chicago, and Gary... Detroit HAS gotten better since the 80's, but it's still no picnic if you're an outsider and get confused while driving. Mike |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 5:57:56 AM EDT
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I love Africa...
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:00:24 AM EDT
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Never been there.
Is it anything like Oakland California? SGatr15 |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:04:52 AM EDT
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I lived there for three months of training... I never, not once, left my room unarmed. Literally never. I have never been cussed, ignored, disrespected, gotten poorer service, witnessed more incompetence or met with so much constant hostility in my life as I experienced from the Atlanta black community.
The place is a shithole and If I never go back it will be too soon. It has some redeeming qualities but they are simply outweighed by the shit there. It is also a glimpse into the future... |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:07:10 AM EDT
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Yup, that's Oakland all right. The one time I visited there I refused to stop at any red lights out of fear of being carjacked. Not like there where any cops around anyways. Some US cities just need to be nuked. SGtar15 |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:12:23 AM EDT
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I have spent some time on several ocassions in "Hotlanta". I agree with almost all of this board so far.
Atlanta has a shiney veneer, there is a lot of money changing hands there. Unfortunatly, as long as caucasions keep living and reproducing responsibly this is how i am afraid all major (and then all, after I'm dead hopefuly) cities will look well before i'm gone. After you get away from the propaganda and shiney distractions and really see the average scene ( resturaunts, service, citizens) it's a scummy low standard area. I could go on. Then again I would be happy if I lived in a city that shared my values and intrest and pushed them at evey chance. Just imagine a shooting range instead of b-ball at underground Atlanta? |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:16:41 AM EDT
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When most of my friends and relatives who live in the Metro-Atlanta area say they "live in Atlanta," they don't literally mean that they live in Atlanta. Generally, they live in the 'burbs. There is very little shopping or even places to shop in downtown Atlanta now, compared to a couple or three decades ago.
The situation in the Atlanta Sheriff's Dept. is pathetic. As long as sheriffs are elected in GA, I don't see any easy fix for that situation. I left the Atlanta area about 12 years ago and have been living in S. GA, ever since. I've regretted leaving Atlanta (read the 'burbs) every day since I left. I don't like urban traffic any more than anybody else, but that's a trade-off that I'm willing to make. When I move back to Metro-Atlanta, I won't be living in an area that'll be directly affected by Atlanta city politics. I think the analogies to other urban areas are right-on. It's the "urban" culture that's the problem; no easy answer for that. My kids have enjoyed career and educational opportunities in the Metro Atlanta area that wouldn't be available to them in places like Alabamer and other of GA's contiguous States. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:17:45 AM EDT
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Didn't Atlanta's downhill slide start when Wayne Williams was killing young black boys and the "hate whitey" crowd started blaming evil, sheet-wearing white males instead of looking for the real killer?
That mentality was re-played when Chief Moose was looking for white vans driven by evil white men instead of the real Muslim jihadist DC snipers. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:18:10 AM EDT
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the few times I have been to Atlanta, I rather enjoyed myself.
I've never seen the 'dark side'...but it's obvious that it exists. Memphis, OTOH..... We watch the memphis news for entertainment, much the way women watch soap operas...... New scandal every day.  |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:29:49 AM EDT
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I lived in Atlanta for 2 years back in 1999-2001. I think one of the problems with "Atlanta" itself is that the city seems to have given up on the downtown area. Areas like Buckhead and the Perimeter Mall area are getting the attention. This is largely due to all the Northern companies which have moved down there, and transferred many Northern workers down to mann the businesses. The cost of doing business is so much less in the South than in the North, it's the trend to move your business down there now. I lived in the Roswell/Alpharetta area, which is for the most part, Northern transplants. You were hard pressed to find native Georgians in those neighborhoods.
And most of these Northern transplants stuck together, shopped in the same areas, and frequented the same restaurants, all north of the city. In the 2 years I lived in "Atlanta", we went downtown twice. Once for a basketball game, and once to go to the CNN center and the zoo when my family was in town. There's just nothing there to draw the people that have money. It's not a walking city, either, and the public transportation is awful. It could be a nice city. There are gorgeous hotels, great restaurants, and the CNN center and underground Atlanta could be a great tourist draw. But they don't put anything into it to bring the tourists there. |
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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:30:17 AM EDT
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Same problem as the city of Birmingham. And the same as the areas
state representatives. The answer would sound racists even though it's true. |
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