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Posted: 4/20/2010 1:50:05 PM EDT
I'm not talking right now, but in like 50 years. So if we could do it, should we do it?

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Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:52:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Manifest destiny!
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:52:05 PM EDT
[#2]
I think your timeline is way off, but it'll have to happen if the species is to expand and flourish.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:55:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I think your timeline is way off, but it'll have to happen if the species is to expand and flourish.


or possibly:  "...if the species is to survive."
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:55:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I think your timeline is way off, but it'll have to happen if the species is to expand and flourish.


I meant more serious plans of terraforming Mars to start becoming expanded upon.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:56:27 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Manifest destiny!


This
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:56:43 PM EDT
[#6]
We need a backup plan in case something happens to Earf. Mars, you're next.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:56:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Hell yes.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:57:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Why wait?  Let's start sending liberals there now.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:57:14 PM EDT
[#9]
IIRC Mars doesn't have a significant barrier against the Sol's solar wind. They are what turned it into the dust bowl that it is today. Earth has a very active core. Mars does not. It produces a field that deflects the solar wind, thus keeping it from stripping our atmosphere down to almost nothing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:57:15 PM EDT
[#10]





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I think your timeline is way off, but it'll have to happen if the species is to expand and flourish.






I meant more serious plans of terraforming Mars to start becoming expanded upon.



Gotta get there first, and establish a colony.  Frankly, that is a bit of a stretch.  We also lack the political will, economic clout and technology to terraform.  



ETA: Hell, we can't even figure out what an extra few percent of CO2 will do on THIS planet, much less how to terraform another planet
 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:57:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Heck yea.
We have to have somewhere from which to base our Titan terraforming efforts.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:58:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Lack of magnetosphere means atmosphere cannot be maintained.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:58:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Terraforming won't start in 50 years...it will take us centuries to get to that point.  But yes, it should be done.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:58:46 PM EDT
[#14]
What is this? Red Faction?
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:59:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Hell yeah.



But of course the enviro weenies will probably say man should never change anything about nature, even if it means Mars remains uninhabitable and we all die on Earth because they refused to allow us to leave and spread out.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:59:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Absolutely. We'll need to find a way to permanently increase the atmospheric pressure, which is hard considering that there's no magnetosphere and is therefore vulnerable to the solar wind.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:59:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Mars for the Martians!!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:59:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Quaid, start the reactor.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:00:42 PM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:


Lack of magnetosphere means atmosphere cannot be maintained.


The thing is, if you somehow have access to the technology and energy to contemplate terraforming a planet, I'm pretty sure you can figure out a way to surround the planet with a magnetic field.



 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:00:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Yep send iin the terraformers...Lets get a Shake and Bake colony going
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:03:50 PM EDT
[#21]



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Quoted:

Lack of magnetosphere means atmosphere cannot be maintained.


The thing is, if you somehow have access to the technology and energy to contemplate terraforming a planet, I'm pretty sure you can figure out a way to surround the planet with a magnetic field.

 


With a big magnet.  Uh, yeah, right.



 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:04:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Mars is mostly a bunch of worthless rock. It'll never really be inhabitable.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:04:42 PM EDT
[#23]
Heck yes we should. Why not? You guys that voted no, speak up and give us your reasons. I would be interested to hear the arguments against it.



Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:07:12 PM EDT
[#24]
But first establish a functional moonbase. One that a Mars mission could be launched from. If you could build a Mars mission launched from the moon you would not have to lift out of a 1 G well versus a 1/6 G well. The moon would have to be mined for minerals and water.



It would also be necessary to guide asteroids and comets into orbit for minerals and H20.



All that's going to take a couple of hundred years. YMMV
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:09:53 PM EDT
[#25]
Hell yes. Unless an intelligent species inhabits a planet, it's fair game. "Nature" my ass. Dead hunks of rock don't get environmental protection... Damn hippies, that's just asinine wanting to preserve something as useless as Mars.


ETA - Why oppose it for technical considerations when we don't have the technology to terraform yet anyway?
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:10:16 PM EDT
[#26]
If we can't survive here, there is no amount of land that will be enough.
Think of it like income, live within your means and all is well; live beyond your means, and you will need credit to stay above water.  You would need an ever increasing credit line to stay afloat.
Now if there is something there that we need, like a new energy source or a rare element not found here in quantity, then by all means take it.
I do not believe population will ever be a just reason to colonize or terraform another world, we would run out of food before space.
If there are to many people, they will just have to learn self-control or starve.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:10:49 PM EDT
[#27]

Sooner or later we are gonna get wiped out from natural or man made disasters. If the human race wants to survive we need to spread to other planets.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:14:29 PM EDT
[#28]
Maybe, but if they encounter this I recommending taking off and nuking the entire site from orbit:

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:14:53 PM EDT
[#29]


Terraform Mars, then populate it with dinosaurs. It would be an awesome hunting paradise. We could feed hippies to the velociraptors.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:15:14 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:

Lack of magnetosphere means atmosphere cannot be maintained.


The thing is, if you somehow have access to the technology and energy to contemplate terraforming a planet, I'm pretty sure you can figure out a way to surround the planet with a magnetic field.

 


With a big magnet.  Uh, yeah, right.

 


Ringing the planet with a superconducting electromagnet would be easy compared to creating an atmosphere.





 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:19:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
IIRC Mars doesn't have a significant barrier against the Sol's solar wind. They are what turned it into the dust bowl that it is today. Earth has a very active core. Mars does not. It produces a field that deflects the solar wind, thus keeping it from stripping our atmosphere down to almost nothing.


THIS, Mars will never be like Earth.  The core is SOLID and doesnt produce the magnetic field necessary.

We can have domed bases on the planet but it will never be like Earth.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:20:27 PM EDT
[#32]





Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:21:26 PM EDT
[#33]
Mars colony + space marines=awesome
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:22:29 PM EDT
[#34]
As long as we send the liberals there so they can create their own utopia without messing with ours
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:26:40 PM EDT
[#35]
The world is ending in 2012 duh!
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:32:03 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
What is this? Red Faction?


I hope so, I can't wait for the future so I can show Colonel Masako my rail driver.  
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:40:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Not just yes but hell yes.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:43:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Not just yes but hell yes.
http://i44.tinypic.com/fmuk4k.jpg


My thoughts exactly!
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:44:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Well the only way to wake a planet like Mars up and create a Magnetosphere is to crash a large moon into it.., and then wait a hundred million years for it to be ready for terra forming... Otherwise your attempts would be a waste of time. No protection from Sun=no way to retain an atmosphere.





Not gonna happen.

 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:45:05 PM EDT
[#40]
I think Earth is a precious cradle that humanity was created in.  It is vulnerable of course, that's why I support colonization of other planets/moons where the resources exist for humanity to survive.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:46:55 PM EDT
[#41]
A better question would be "Why shouldn't Mars be terraformed?"
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:48:59 PM EDT
[#42]
If we fuck up its not a big deal we can just leave, so lets go for it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:49:10 PM EDT
[#43]



 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:49:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Earthlings, just doing the jobs Martians won't.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:49:47 PM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:


A better question would be "Why shouldn't Mars be terraformed?"


You have a large rocky celestial body you can relocate and smash into Mars that is at least 50% the present mass of Mars?



 
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 2:51:20 PM EDT
[#46]
As others have said, Mars has too many problems to be terraformed to the point where we can diddly-bop around on the surface without pressurized suits.

It's more realistic to eyeball Alpha Centauri and see if their are any inhabitable worlds around either star or at least ones that could be terraformed followed by a global project to work up the tech to make the 4.2 Light year trip.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:11:27 PM EDT
[#47]
If there's any life, the Prime Directive would say no.



Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:14:01 PM EDT
[#48]
As long as it isn't done with taxpayer dollars, I'm all for it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:20:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Don't we have enough toilets to piss taxpayer money down?
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:22:02 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:


I'm not talking right now, but in like 5000 years. So if we could do it, should we do it?



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