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Posted: 4/27/2014 8:21:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/27/2014 8:24:29 PM EDT by Slare]
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.  I haven't been pulled over for speeding in probably 10 years, but I got pulled over ALOT when I was younger.  Never once had an officer fib, when I got caught, they said what for... when it was a bullshit stop, they always said some dumb shit like "you in a hurry?".  It baffles me.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:23:04 PM EDT
Several times, when accompanied by treating the officer like he was a regular person doing a regular job.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:23:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.
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Carrying a concealed weapon and speeding?  Fucking brilliant!
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:25:09 PM EDT
Fishing trip . BTDT ,
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:26:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:




Carrying a concealed weapon and speeding?  Fucking brilliant!
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.




Carrying a concealed weapon and speeding?  Fucking brilliant!


Thanks for your input.  Go press your bullet button.  Edit - sorry that was rude... but you don't drive the roads I drive.  You drive at or under the speed limit around these parts and you are looking to get into an accident / road rage problem.  Maybe it's not like that in your part of CA.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:31:13 PM EDT
I've been told by a couple of cops that it.    Haven't been pulled over since I got mine to test it out, hopefully stays that way..
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:33:14 PM EDT
Meh, I just flash them my badge from work and I'm on my way.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:36:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.  I haven't been pulled over for speeding in probably 10 years, but I got pulled over ALOT when I was younger.  Never once had an officer fib, when I got caught, they said what for... when it was a bullshit stop, they always said some dumb shit like "you in a hurry?".  It baffles me.
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Idk, I've never been pulled over in my Z06, I bought my escort 9500 a month after I bought the car so that may have a lot to do with it. Either way, I wouldn't be happy with a LEO taking my CCW. The safest place a loaded firearm is to stay in its holster without  someone unfamiliar with the platform fiddling with it.

For some reason a lot of cops think legally carrying a firearm entitles them to search or seize it without permission or probable cause. I'd avoid the situation all together, unless I'm directly asked.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:39:35 PM EDT
eh, no need to inform here. i could not imagine handing my handgun to somebody like that
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:39:43 PM EDT
Absolutely. I was doing 90 headed east on I-20 in west Texas when a TDPS officer headed west pass end me and immediately crossed the median. I knew I was guilty as I was the only vehicle for several miles. As soon As I saw his tail light light up I pulled over and waited for him
 When he got to me he initially thanked me and then I informed him I was carrying. He asked what I had and told me to step out of the vehicle and not touch my waist area. After a minute or two he let me go and told
Me that based on the fact that I stopped almost immediately and had a CHL I was not a problem for him.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:40:14 PM EDT
He did ask to take possession of it.  Didn't really think about it or fight it.

Honestly about the only thing I'd fight is a search/tearing up my vehicle.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:42:04 PM EDT
Yeah it sounds like it helped the fuck out of you.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:42:42 PM EDT
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Amazing!!!!

Did you not ask if you were being detained?

I am not sure if I have ever written a CCW holder a ticket.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:43:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.  I haven't been pulled over for speeding in probably 10 years, but I got pulled over ALOT when I was younger.  Never once had an officer fib, when I got caught, they said what for... when it was a bullshit stop, they always said some dumb shit like "you in a hurry?".  It baffles me.
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The thing is, you and many others all make this common mistake.  The speed is not taken when YOU SEE THE OFFICER.  It is when he saw you speeding and clocked you.  Countless times, I will see people approaching my patrol vehicle from the rear doing 20+ over the limit.  They get closer to my vehicle, see me, slow down to close to the speed limit, pass me, and I light them up.  When I tell them they were doing 85 in a 65, they always protest saying, "when I saw you, I was only doing 70!"  Again, it is not when YOU see the officer... it is when he sees you.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:45:36 PM EDT
I realize that full well.  I was not, at any point, doing 79.  Cruise was set at 69 for five miles before I saw him sitting in the median... not the speed I slowed down to after seeing him.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:45:53 PM EDT
I think so, I was traveling through South Carolina up I-95 and was pulled over for doing 78 in a 70 ( a first for me).

Before he could get a word out I immediately told him I was carrying a concealed weapon so that there would be no misunderstandings.  

I was driving up from Florida but I am from South Carolina, I made sure I mentioned that as well.  

He just gave me a warning on the speeding and was nice about the whole thing.

Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:48:53 PM EDT
Not trying to derail the thread, but CPL Courtesy (as in corporal/CPL) sounds like a super hero Marine NCO from a terminal lance comic that goes around saving people from getting unfair tickets.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:50:20 PM EDT
I was pulled over a few years back going 37 in a 35!

Cop was a major dick, even tried accusing me of not wearing my seat belt when I clearly was. When I showed him, he then accused me of snapping it closed as I was being pulled over.

Gave my CWL along with my DL even though I was not carrying! He asked if I was carrying I told him "no not tonight"! He came back 5 min later and was sweet as pie! Complete attitude change!

I ranted about it here in GD, and the general consensus was cop thought I was someone else? I will never know what the real deal was, but I know I was not speeding, and the cop "Let me off with a warning"!

I still think the CWL helped...
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:53:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.  I haven't been pulled over for speeding in probably 10 years, but I got pulled over ALOT when I was younger.  Never once had an officer fib, when I got caught, they said what for... when it was a bullshit stop, they always said some dumb shit like "you in a hurry?".  It baffles me.
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well, first off, I have not yet given a ticket to a CCW permit holder.
he may not have radar'd you where you think he did. I radar in a 35 zone for the most part, people keep thinking I locked them in the 55 zone further down the road. (takes a bit to catch up)
if he was new, its possible there was some error, having the wipers going while running stationary radar can add about 5mph sometimes. thats why its importent to have the audio tone going on the unit.
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Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Not trying to derail the thread, but CPL Courtesy (as in corporal/CPL) sounds like a super hero Marine NCO from a terminal lance comic that goes around saving people from getting unfair tickets.
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That was my thought as well.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:55:32 PM EDT
Guy I used to work with got a 1mph speeding citation in the Detroit metro area.  I don't quite believe that's all he was doing, must have done something to win attention... but it happens.
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That was my thought as well.
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Originally Posted By Capt-Planet:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Not trying to derail the thread, but CPL Courtesy (as in corporal/CPL) sounds like a super hero Marine NCO from a terminal lance comic that goes around saving people from getting unfair tickets.

That was my thought as well.


Glad it wasn't just me!
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:56:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.
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That's crazy.  I've been pulled over while carrying in Texas a few times.  One time, the female officer asked me to put my hands on the steering wheel and to not remove them.  Every other time, the officer has just asked where it is.  No one has ever wanted to take it from me.  

To answer your question, yes I do think a CHL gets you out of tickets sometimes.  A CHL and a respectful demeanor will go a long way with the cops I've encountered.

Link Posted: 4/27/2014 9:36:04 PM EDT
I've been stopped one time since I had my CHL. I was courteous to the officer. He wrote me a ticket.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 9:41:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:

Idk, I've never been pulled over in my Z06, I bought my escort 9500 a month after I bought the car so that may have a lot to do with it. Either way, I wouldn't be happy with a LEO taking my CCW. The safest place a loaded firearm is to stay in its holster without  someone unfamiliar with the platform fiddling with it.

For some reason a lot of cops think legally carrying a firearm entitles them to search or seize it without permission or probable cause. I'd avoid the situation all together, unless I'm directly asked.
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.  I haven't been pulled over for speeding in probably 10 years, but I got pulled over ALOT when I was younger.  Never once had an officer fib, when I got caught, they said what for... when it was a bullshit stop, they always said some dumb shit like "you in a hurry?".  It baffles me.

Idk, I've never been pulled over in my Z06, I bought my escort 9500 a month after I bought the car so that may have a lot to do with it. Either way, I wouldn't be happy with a LEO taking my CCW. The safest place a loaded firearm is to stay in its holster without  someone unfamiliar with the platform fiddling with it.

For some reason a lot of cops think legally carrying a firearm entitles them to search or seize it without permission or probable cause. I'd avoid the situation all together, unless I'm directly asked.


I would always let them know right off regardless if its required or not (in UT it is). But serious question, is there a set guideline to what they can/can't do as far as the weapon?

I would also not be too happy with giving them my weapon. It's safe right where it is; are there any guidelines as far as I can simply deny him access to it or state that I am not comfortable handing it over or does this fall under the 'driving is a privilege, do what we tell you' bullshit?
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Amazing!!!!

Did you not ask if you were being detained?

I am not sure if I have ever written a CCW holder a ticket.
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Several times, when accompanied by treating the officer like he was a regular person doing a regular job.


Amazing!!!!

Did you not ask if you were being detained?

I am not sure if I have ever written a CCW holder a ticket.


Weird huh.  Treat people like you want to be treated and you get it back.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 10:04:00 PM EDT
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Do not inform.  No reason to.  GD is filled with fools and cops encouraging bad behaior after reading this thread.

Got a warning for 47 in a 25 recently - was not carrying at the time.
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Do not inform.  No reason to.  GD is filled with fools and cops encouraging bad behaior after reading this thread.



Got a warning for 47 in a 25 recently - was not carrying at the time.
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And in some, failure to inform is a crime.



Heed your advice at your own risk.



 
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 10:34:29 PM EDT
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I have stopped many people who have had a CHL.  To date I have never disarmed any of them. Statistically speaking people with a CHL rarely shoot at people in my line of work, and I am more comfortable knowing that I am dealing with a CHL holder.  

That being said, prior to exiting my patrol car I determine whether I will be issuing a warning or a citation.  I stick to that decision, unless I find  that the driver has no insurance or DL, if vehicle registration or inspection are expired, or if they have children that are not in the proper child safety devices required by law.

If I decide before getting out of the vehicle that I will be issuing a citation, then it does not matter if I am dealing with an unarmed citizen, a CHL holder, or even another police officer, a citation will be issued.

That is just me, other officers have a different set of ethical rules that they have established for themselves.

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Originally Posted By dngrspot:
I have stopped many people who have had a CHL.  To date I have never disarmed any of them. Statistically speaking people with a CHL rarely shoot at people in my line of work, and I am more comfortable knowing that I am dealing with a CHL holder.  

That being said, prior to exiting my patrol car I determine whether I will be issuing a warning or a citation.  I stick to that decision, unless I find  that the driver has no insurance or DL, if vehicle registration or inspection are expired, or if they have children that are not in the proper child safety devices required by law.

If I decide before getting out of the vehicle that I will be issuing a citation, then it does not matter if I am dealing with an unarmed citizen, a CHL holder, or even another police officer, a citation will be issued.

That is just me, other officers have a different set of ethical rules that they have established for themselves.

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Unless it's a friend or a family member, right? You don't need to answer, because I know I am.    
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 11:00:26 PM EDT
i have been pulled over several times since getting my CHL, always hand it over with my DL, and have yet to get a ticket.  at least twice, the cop never even bothered to run my info.  



i don't assume that anyone is going to treat it as "good guy ID", but it seems to improve interactions.
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No, you are not correct.  I have cited one of my best friend and co-worker's mother.  I once forgot to put my vehicle in park and it struck a fixed object, I ended up having to cite myself for failing to properly park a vehicle.  

Please don't assume you know me, and that I behave the same way that you think all police do.  

To be honest there have been many times where I have regretted my decision to warn a person before making contact with them, especially when they act like an asshole.
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Originally Posted By dngrspot:


No, you are not correct.  I have cited one of my best friend and co-worker's mother.  I once forgot to put my vehicle in park and it struck a fixed object, I ended up having to cite myself for failing to properly park a vehicle.  

Please don't assume you know me, and that I behave the same way that you think all police do.  

To be honest there have been many times where I have regretted my decision to warn a person before making contact with them, especially when they act like an asshole.
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Originally Posted By XMM:
Unless it's a friend or a family member, right? You don't need to answer, because I know I am.    


No, you are not correct.  I have cited one of my best friend and co-worker's mother.  I once forgot to put my vehicle in park and it struck a fixed object, I ended up having to cite myself for failing to properly park a vehicle.  

Please don't assume you know me, and that I behave the same way that you think all police do.  

To be honest there have been many times where I have regretted my decision to warn a person before making contact with them, especially when they act like an asshole.



Sounds like you have a logical system
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Link Posted: 4/27/2014 11:56:47 PM EDT
Not speeding saves me from tickets.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 1:07:04 AM EDT
I have never understood why people continually insist that there is no way they were doing the speed the radar or laser indicated. I have to visually estimate the speed of the vehicle first, before I even check the radar. If my visual estimate differs greatly from the radar, I know there's some sort of error.



I had a chick insist the other night that there was absolutely no way she was going 54 in a 35 mph zone, and it had to be the vehicle beside her. She was referring to the vehicle barely doing 40 mph, that she was flying past as I observed her.



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Originally Posted By Slare:


Guy I used to work with got a 1mph speeding citation in the Detroit metro area.  I don't quite believe that's all he was doing, must have done something to win attention... but it happens.
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An Oakland County Sheriff wrote me for for 2mph over.  He was a cunt and the judge knew it.



I'm sure it was just another isolated incident and did not color my perception of LE in any way.



 
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I realize that full well.  I was not, at any point, doing 79.  Cruise was set at 69 for five miles before I saw him sitting in the median... not the speed I slowed down to after seeing him.
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Dash cams that cover instruments and windshield keep everyone honest.
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An Oakland County Sheriff wrote me for for 2mph over.  He was a cunt and the judge knew it.

I'm sure it was just another isolated incident and did not color my perception of LE in any way.
 
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Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
Originally Posted By Slare:
Guy I used to work with got a 1mph speeding citation in the Detroit metro area.  I don't quite believe that's all he was doing, must have done something to win attention... but it happens.


An Oakland County Sheriff wrote me for for 2mph over.  He was a cunt and the judge knew it.

I'm sure it was just another isolated incident and did not color my perception of LE in any way.
 


I was cited in an ambulance in a small town in rural Colorado while on a long distance transport, 27 in a 25.
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Carrying a concealed weapon and speeding?  Fucking brilliant!
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:
Originally Posted By Slare:
I got pulled over last weekend for speeding.  Informed the officer immediately of the CPL/carrying and he then took possession of my Sig.  He informed me he clocked me going 79mph in a 65, while following me.  Came back five minutes later with a warning and "I'm being nice giving you a warning because of your good handling of the CPL/firearm situation".  I thanked him and was on my way.

Now here's the deal, I know for a fact I was going 69-70mph in a 65mph zone.  The vette's speedo is dead nuts accurate.  I also slowed to 65-66mph before passing him, after which he followed me for a mile or so before the lights went up.  I wouldn't be fucking happy with a 5 over ticket, but shit happens sometimes and I'd suck it up.  Having said that, it's a long, boring 4 lane highway and I use cruise control because I'm not an asshole.  Given I was in the Vette I pretty much assume this guy intended to ticket me - otherwise he wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place.  He absolutely did not clock me doing 79.

So, you think the CPL helped?

And can anyone explain why the hell he would lie about my speed?  That part stumps me more than any of it.




Carrying a concealed weapon and speeding?  Fucking brilliant!


I do that all the time.
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Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:


An Oakland County Sheriff wrote me for for 2mph over.  He was a cunt and the judge knew it.

I'm sure it was just another isolated incident and did not color my perception of LE in any way.
 
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Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
Originally Posted By Slare:
Guy I used to work with got a 1mph speeding citation in the Detroit metro area.  I don't quite believe that's all he was doing, must have done something to win attention... but it happens.


An Oakland County Sheriff wrote me for for 2mph over.  He was a cunt and the judge knew it.

I'm sure it was just another isolated incident and did not color my perception of LE in any way.
 


now that is just funny.
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Several times, when accompanied by treating the officer like he was a regular person doing a regular job.
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yup. I have gotten pulled a few times since i have had it and every time they let me go. I may be that lucky or maybe they appreciate going through the hassle of getting one and you being cool during the stop.



Most recently, the last time i got nailed, i was doing 95 in a 55 on my bike (I know. I got no excuse but it was the middle of the country on a straight road with no one on it.). Got let go with a verbal. Now it also helps he clocked me going the opposite way and as soon as i saw him start to turn i pulled over and waited on him.  He seemed appreciative because he said most cases they run.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 2:50:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirensong:
i have been pulled over several times since getting my CHL, always hand it over with my DL, and have yet to get a ticket.  at least twice, the cop never even bothered to run my info.  

i don't assume that anyone is going to treat it as "good guy ID", but it seems to improve interactions.
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QFT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2014 2:57:32 AM EDT
I have some friends who are LEOs and they say it will smooth the road if you are front about it. I have been pulled over, presented my card with driver's license and POI. He asked me where it was and said don't move towards it. I got a warning.

Most LEOs in MS will not disarm you unless you're acting a fool or obviously intoxicated. Guns are the norm around here.
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Originally Posted By MRW:


Here's my experience  click



I won't inform anymore
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I have never notified LE that I'm carrying nor that I have a CWP








Link Posted: 4/28/2014 3:08:40 AM EDT
I have been pulled over twice while carrying here in Michigan, I did get a ticket one of those times. Both times were on rural roads that suddenly dropped down to 35 MPH for seemingly no reason other than to trap you.

I think Michigan LEO has the option to take your gun during the stop, they did not take mine. How does that go? Do they have you get out and assume the position and relieve you of it? That seems embarrassing. I can't imagine they just have you hand it too them....??
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Originally Posted By Fugitive:


I have some friends who are LEOs and they say it will smooth the road if you are front about it. I have been pulled over, presented my card with driver's license and POI. He asked me where it was and said don't move towards it. I got a warning.



Most LEOs in MS will not disarm you unless you're acting a fool or obviously intoxicated. Guns are the norm around here.
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In ms your CWP number is the same as your DL.

 



No need to give him your CWP.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 3:11:54 AM EDT
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This my come as an absolute shock to GD but there are many reasons I chose to use my powers of discretion.  Being an honest, normal CCW holder who pushed it a bit on the downhill may factor in to that decision.



ETA.  Whats with this "handing a gun out the window" shit?  If I'm for whatever reason "disarming" someone, I sure as hell ain't doing it like that.  Either I'm not messing with it at all or you're getting out of the car and I'll take it from you there or I'll  find it under the seat.  Also hardly anyone I ever stop is carrying on their person, their POS is almost always stuffed into, under or around their seat.



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