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Posted: 6/22/2003 7:33:35 AM EDT
[url=http://www.utexas.edu/ogs/rc/phobia.html]DOG PHOBIA[/url]
By Mary Ann Roser American-Statesman Staff Monday, June 5, 2000 A scientist holding a clipboard jots down notes as his subjects confront their worst fear. A few people try to run away. Others break into a sweat. Most freeze and stare. Hearts pound; panic rules. What scares them so? Joey, a springer spaniel, who lies on the floor and licks his paws; Susie, a tail-wagging, laid-back Labrador-basset hound blend; and Pugsley -- the scariest of all -- a gentle bulldog who snorts but barely moves. Though to the average person these family pets may seem overly docile, if not borderline comatose, they are frightening to the folks who meet them in a unique experiment at the University of Texas. UT researchers in psychology are conducting what is believed to be the first controlled, clinical study on people who suffer from dog phobia, a marked, persistent fear of canines. The researchers expose the subjects to dogs so they can conquer their fear. Using a Rottweiler, even a friendly one, was not a good idea, the researchers quickly learned. "Some people wouldn't get near it," said Tim Rentz, a UT doctoral candidate who is doing his dissertation on dog phobia. For those who are phobic, the fear bites hardest when they encounter a dog or anticipate seeing one. The fear interferes with their lives, keeping them from doing such things such as visiting parks, bicycling or visiting family and friends who own dogs. "Most subjects have been attacked by a dog or have seen someone attacked," said UT psychology professor Michael Telch, director of the UT Laboratory for the Study of Anxiety Disorders. "Our goal is to take away the panic." Besides dogs, Telch said the lab also has studied claustrophobia and the fear of spiders. a specific phobia, said Telch and Rentz. But previous research has determined that about 11 percent of the population suffers from a specific phobia, one of the most common mental-health disorders, Telch said. Women are much more likely to fear animals -- 12 percent vs. 3 percent of men. At UT, 3 to 5 percent of the students surveyed in their introductory psychology courses reported a significant fear of dogs. Of those, 35 percent to 45 percent in the study were Asian students, possibly because dogs aren't as common as pets in those countries, Telch said. Being afraid of aggressive, threatening dogs is not unusual or unreasonable, said Rentz, who admitted to having a specific phobia -- of snakes. But fearing all dogs and interpreting every behavior -- from panting to tail wagging -- as aggressive is phobic. It's not easy to avoid dogs. More than 62 million are owned as pets in the United States, Telch said. Nearly four in 10 households have at least one dog. And there are problems. Each year, more than 4.5 million dog bites are reported, 60 percent on children. An average of 20 people die each year from dog bites, Telch said. No one has been bitten in the UT study, he added. So far, just UT students have been used. But Telch and Rentz said they hope to draw half of their subjects from the Austin community -- adults, ages 18 and older. The researchers expose people to the friendly dogs and gradually move them from a distance of 10 feet to within a few inches, where they can pet the dog. The researchers also do an exercise in which they ask people to imagine being near a dog and then interacting with it. So far, preliminary data on 54 individuals indicates that when exposed to a real dog in treatment, the average person in the study reports a 58 percent reduction in fear. In the "imaginal treatment," the average fear fell 36 percent, Rentz said, adding that he was surprised at how effective it was. The study will determine which exposure works best. Telch said exposing people with phobias to the object of their terror is "one of the few powerful treatments we have in mental health." Last week, Rentz tried it on UT student Jule Murphy. She has been afraid of dogs since age 7, when she got caught between two that were fighting. "I was really terrified," Murphy, 20, said. "I was trapped in the middle of them, and my legs got scratched up." Now, she avoids dogs. Until last week. Murphy walked into a narrow hallway in a UT building that's used for the treatment. Two doors posted signs warning of dogs inside. "Do all these rooms have dogs in them?" she asked Rentz. |
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Interesting. I know many people who are absolutely terrified of Dogs. Same people wouldn't back down in a firefight, but want absolutely nothing to do with dogs. Large, small, does not matter.
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If there is any evidence of god's existence, it's the presence of dogs, the most noble of creatures.
Too bad people turned out to be such assholes. |
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I can understand why some people are afraid of dogs. Mine is a vicious attack dog. Here's her on patrol:
[img]http://www.calabrats.com/dog/Shilohclosseup.jpg[/img] |
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Quoted: If there is any evidence of god's existence, it's the presence of dogs, the most noble of creatures. View Quote Yes. |
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Leave it to the so called "University" of Texas to have a study about "dog phobia". What a bunch of liberal whiney sissies.
SGB, did you have this stored or did you really have to do some [:K] research this morning.[;)] |
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Huh, so far only 8% indicate they have a problem with dogs.
I wonder if you also asked what people did for a living, how many of that 8% would be "Law-Enforcement"????..... [:D] (I guess this this is NOT going as planned eh SGB?? [;D]) |
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Quoted: Interesting. I know many people who are absolutely terrified of Dogs. [red]Same people wouldn't back down in a firefight[/red], but want absolutely nothing to do with dogs. Large, small, does not matter. View Quote Are these people by any chance cops? |
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Quoted: Huh, so far only 8% indicate they have a problem with dogs. I wonder if you also asked what people did for a living, how many of that 8% would be "Law-Enforcement"????..... [:D] View Quote I would guess postal employees or meter readers. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Huh, so far only 8% indicate they have a problem with dogs. I wonder if you also asked what people did for a living, how many of that 8% would be "Law-Enforcement"????..... [:D] View Quote I would guess postal employees or meter readers. View Quote Huh!! You're right, those people prolly see more mean dogs than 'bout anyone on the planet, 'cept mebee a Chinese butcher!! [:D] Just curious, would you happen to know the latest statistics as to how many postal employees or meter readers had to kill dogs out of fear of death, or bodily injury??? [;D] |
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Quoted: Huh, so far only 8% indicate they have a problem with dogs. I wonder if you also asked what people did for a living, how many of that 8% would be "Law-Enforcement"????..... [:D] (I guess this this is NOT going as planned eh SGB?? [;D]) View Quote Planded? I simply wanted to know what percentage of this Board had a dog phobia. I don't. I also have two very large dogs that any MORON in his right mind [b]should[/b] be afraid of, they are extremely teritorial. Only You would try and turn this into Cop Bashing. Sad, very, very sad. |
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Quoted: Leave it to the so called "University" of Texas to have a study about "dog phobia". What a bunch of liberal whiney sissies. SGB, did you have this stored or did you really have to do some [:K] research this morning.[;)] View Quote Aggie1 as to the [:K] research, seems that at least one showed up so far [:D] |
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I chose the not afraid of dogs statement. & while I'm not afraid of dogs there are many I don't trust, & keep my distance if I fell things could get ugly. Like pitbulls,& rot's. I would go out of my way to avoid them, not from fear, but rather a mistrust. Say what you want about my statement, but I don't hang out in bars, & other seedy types of places for the same reason. I will live longer, & better if I choose to be in safer environments.
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It's all about attitude and your level of fear.
I don't care how vicious a dog looks or act's, any size dog. I am ALPHA over ANY dog. I MAY take a bite or two in the process of determining that I am the alpha, but I will prevail. I will not have to shoot the dog either. He/she will end up with the utmost respect for me through determining that I am the alpha. Because of that respect the same dog will die to protect me. |
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20 yrs in the small pkg del business so I guess the answer is uh no. [:)] Would have sure had to choose a different line of work if I was. Maybe LEO. That way ...BAM! [peep]
Nomex encapsulated. Fire away. |
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i just watched a show one TLC called "Dangerous Dogs". it said that there are 900 dog attacks a day. on the average 17 of the people die.
i am not afraid of dogs. i have been biten a couple times, once was pretty bad. however, if a dog comes at me snarling and growling trying to bite me then he will not make it home that night. It's all about attitude and your level of fear. I don't care how vicious a dog looks or act's, any size dog. I am ALPHA over ANY dog. I MAY take a bite or two in the process of determining that I am the alpha, but I will prevail. I will not have to shoot the dog either. He/she will end up with the utmost respect for me through determining that I am the alpha. Because of that respect the same dog will die to protect me. View Quote does that include an attack dog that has been ordered to attack you? how about a wolf? what about a 282 pound english mastiff(worlds largest dog). how about a rabid dog? |
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Quoted: It's all about attitude and your level of fear. I don't care how vicious a dog looks or act's, any size dog. I am ALPHA over ANY dog. I MAY take a bite or two in the process of determining that I am the alpha, but I will prevail. I will not have to shoot the dog either. He/she will end up with the utmost respect for me through determining that I am the alpha. Because of that respect the same dog will die to protect me. View Quote I have found that attitude works pretty well for me, too. On a similar note, one thing I find rather curious is that lots of dog trainers seem to think that dog training is all about establishing the alpha position of the person over the dog. Personally, I have owned lots of dogs, and I know lots of other people who have owned them. I know a pretty fair number of dogs that are fairly aggressive and will definitely keep intruders off the property (like my 120-pound year-old puppy, for example) but I can't recall seeing too many that were confused about who was the alpha in the dog and dog-owner relationship. That just seems silly from the dogs I have known. |
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Quoted: does that include an attack dog that has been ordered to attack you? View Quote You mean, that dead dog now laying on the sidewalk? how about a wolf? View Quote There aren't many in my neighborhood and, from what I hear, they aren't as big as my pup. what about a 282 pound english mastiff(worlds largest dog). View Quote Seeing as how they are known as "living rugs" and don't generally show aggression unless you seriously invade their territory . . . How about a rabid dog? View Quote I can't recall the last time I even heard of one of those, but I would probably be more scared of the series of rabies shots that would come after I killed the rabid dog. But maybe if it was a rabid, wolf-mastiff crossbreed trained as an attack dog . . . |
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i worked at a vet clinic and almost got bit a few times. i'm not scared of them..i do know there are a few breeds to watch out for.
the police dogs that came in [b]were all[/b] sketchy, i would never turn my back on one. |
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How could anyone be scared of these faces:
[img]groups.msn.com/_Secure/0ZQDLAnUfCWgrSBPFjsh!w8ZKNaUrtWJK0G9p46eP2s16aQxQqqNpo744*QlLsMPEADuO27yPwhHKrpcPojhn2ie06Q0EN2fIO5XBAMXCzXFjskBaYhBTP4MJ8cEjWBIpP70TeLbDudqInvKLkgJehA/Puppies%20sitting%20for%20treats%204.JPG[/img] Actually people are scared to death of our girls if they don't know them because they are large and have very deep barks. Don't mind too much as the Jehova's Witnesses are running down the driveway throwing their magazine back at us. All you need is a biscuit to shut them up though, the little treat whores. BTW, I love all dogs, but there are a few that I've seen I give a wide berth to. Like humans they are not totally predictable, though you never want to show fear. Just be reasonable. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Huh, so far only 8% indicate they have a problem with dogs. I wonder if you also asked what people did for a living, how many of that 8% would be "Law-Enforcement"????..... [:D] View Quote I would guess postal employees or meter readers. View Quote Huh!! You're right, those people prolly see more mean dogs than 'bout anyone on the planet, 'cept mebee a Chinese butcher!! [:D] Just curious, would you happen to know the latest statistics as to how many postal employees or meter readers had to kill dogs out of fear of death, or bodily injury??? [;D] View Quote [ROFL2] |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quoted: does that include an attack dog that has been ordered to attack you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You mean, that dead dog now laying on the sidewalk? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- how about a wolf? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There aren't many in my neighborhood and, from what I hear, they aren't as big as my pup. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what about a 282 pound english mastiff(worlds largest dog). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seeing as how they are known as "living rugs" and don't generally show aggression unless you seriously invade their territory . . . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How about a rabid dog? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't recall the last time I even heard of one of those, but I would probably be more scared of the series of rabies shots that would come after I killed the rabid dog. View Quote he said he would not have to shoot the dog, and the jist of his statement was that the dog would still be alive afterwards. while some of my examples are probably far fetched, the statement was "any dog". what about a group of dogs? they are pack hunters, and there have been many cases of multiple dogs involved in an attack on a person. |
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Quoted: i worked at a vet clinic and almost got bit a few times. i'm not scared of them..i do know there are a few breeds to watch out for. the police dogs that came in [b]were all[/b] sketchy, i would never turn my back on one. View Quote Oh, you said "police DOGS". Hmmmm, wonder why. |
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I was attacked from behind by a dalmation as a kid. Kind of an ambush attack really.
Have hated dogs ever since. If I don't know em, I would just as soon shoot 'em. I'm really not afraid of much else, just f'in hate dogs, especially dalmations. |
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A couple of years ago my dog, 'BONES', got a bit too aggressive with the kids.
I posted here about it and was told some interesting things, which I immediately put into action, namely, I grabbed the dog by the ears and screamed into his face at the top of my lungs: "YOUFUCKINGDOGDON'TYOUEVERFUCKINGDOSOMETHINGLIKETHATAGAINORI'LLFUCKINGRIPYOURHEADOFFDOYOUFUCKINGUNDERSTANDWHATI'M FUCKINGSAYINGTOYOUYOUSTUPIDFUCKINGDOG?!!! [;D] I made sure he understood who was the 'Alpha Male'. We worked on a few more things after that. Now, he rolls over and readily exposes his neck/throat area whenever that action is deemed necessary by him. I reassert myself at that point by grabbing him by the throat and telling him "Who's your Daddy, boy?". [:D] No more problems! |
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Quoted: does that include an attack dog that has been ordered to attack you? View Quote What part of "ANY dog" did you not understand? An attack dog will not be so vicious towards you if you are more vicious towards him first. I will rip an attacking dog apart before I let him/her mortally would me. The first place I'm going to grab is the dog's mouth and then just rip jaw's apart with all my might. I would stop attacking him/her as soon as him/her stopped attacking me. Dog's normally stop attacking when they discover their jaw is broken. how about a wolf? View Quote As far as I'm concerned a wolf is just a wild German Shepherd. Yes a wolf too. [rolleyes] what about a 282 pound english mastiff(worlds largest dog). View Quote Now that's a dog that if it had an attacking me and I WAS WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND HAD NO POSSIBILITY OF ESCAPE......I would shoot that dog first and ask questions later. I don't think anybody would razz me a 155 lb man for shooting a 282 lb attacking dog IF I WAS WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. how about a rabid dog? View Quote I'm 38 year old and have never seen a rabid dog. But, yes I would shoot a rabid dog no matter where he/she was IF he/she was threatening me or mine. Otherwise I would avoid and evade. The point of this is NOT so much what I'd do, It's more what I would not do. First of all I would never enter a property invited or uninvited without backup. Secondly, as you can see from my answers to your questions I would only shoot the 282 lb. dog IF he/she were threatening me, and I had no escape at all. The rabid dog/cat/possum/racoon.skunk etc. needs to die regardless. All other dog's you asked about I would simply stop them from attacking me without killing them. Third, I would NEVER enter a property unless I was ABSOLUTELY sure I was.... 1. at the right home 2. had permission from the property owner to be on the property 3. sure the owner had all pets secured. So this whole senario would neverrarely/one in a million happen to me. Besides what in the name of all that's good does your scenario have to do with a JBT killing peoples pet's? Let me say it this way, I DO NOT FEAR DOG'S. DOG'S FEAR ME. Killing a dog would be the last resort, gaining it's respect would be first priority. You need to understand something about me, I cook Grizzly Bear meat over an open fire and eat Porcupines with my bare hands, I would enjoy breaking the jaw of a Doberman or a Rottie who attacked me. I would be alpha for sure then. [;D][LOL] |
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Quoted: Huh, so far only 8% indicate they have a problem with dogs. I wonder if you also asked what people did for a living, how many of that 8% would be "Law-Enforcement"????..... [:D] (I guess this this is NOT going as planned eh SGB?? [;D]) View Quote Lib: As a former police officer I don't have any problems with dogs. As a matter of fact. I used to get called on to handle most of the visious dog complaints in the city. Which using a little common sense and caution, usually turned out to be a dog just having some fun. ED |
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