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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:40:57 AM EDT
[#1]
define what you call 'traditional' and 'new'
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:43:03 AM EDT
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well, in order to save time b/c I have to leave my house in a bit, I'll just use the platforms of two people. Bush=neo and lets say someone like Buchanan=traditional |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:45:00 AM EDT
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i'm a Bush-Reagan conservative.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:45:26 AM EDT
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I try to think independent of party lines as I am firmly of the belief that the party system has served it's purpose and is now obsolete.
However, my core beliefs and values do tend to mimic closely the politicians with "R"'s after their names. I am not a single issue voter, but firearms are OBVIOUSLY important to me.... ...but I don't feel that we should be outlawing abortion, even though I find it personally repulsive. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:45:32 AM EDT
[#5]
I reject the label, personally, and I don't consider Buchanan a traditional conservative. I consider myself a Reagan conservative.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:45:53 AM EDT
[#6]
Conservative.
I actually think that Bush is a Liberal (especially a fiscal liberal). The only reason that I am voting for him is because I think that Kerry is a Socialist and a traitor! |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:45:59 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm far more conservative than virtually any elected Republican.
Think: Dick Cheney during his U.S. Rep days. FWIW. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:47:12 AM EDT
[#8]
+1 |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:47:48 AM EDT
[#9]
Reagan Conservative. I wish that man could've lived forever and remained as permant POTUS.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:49:05 AM EDT
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Part of why you think Bush is a fiscal liberal is because of the spending of congress. Of course alot of that spending was done because we're fighting a global war while digging ourselves out of a recession.
Bush gave a huge tax break and wants to renew it! Tell me again why hes a fiscal liberal? |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:50:17 AM EDT
[#11]
well said. I'm the same way although I feel a majority of the time I agree with a conservative platform. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:52:04 AM EDT
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Long-Time Libertarian that changed to a far-right (I'm damn-near a NAZI
 ) outlook 3 sec's after the second plane hit the towers.I'll get back to fixing this country when the external threat is dealt with. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:55:32 AM EDT
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None of us are neo-cons (sorry Imbroglio!)
"Neo-cons" are/were a small group of mostly Jewish, New York intellectuals who changed their political affiliation from communist/leftist to right wing in the 60's. When I say small, I mean maybe 2 dozen at most. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:56:19 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm a small-government conservative, similar to what the Republican Libery Caucus wants to establish.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:02:45 AM EDT
[#15]
Neither. I consider myself a Constitutionalist.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:37:45 AM EDT
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Well I guess I'm a Cheney/Reagan Conservative. I have gotten to the point that I hate ALL (yes I have lumped all of you togather) Democrates, leftist, progressives, socialist, and in short Commies. hooter
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:41:49 AM EDT
[#17]
My views and values are similar as well. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:42:08 AM EDT
[#18]
I don't know anyone as conservative as I am.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:44:05 AM EDT
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As generally defined, I'm not a conservative at all...
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:45:27 AM EDT
[#20]
Neo-conservative is bullsh*t term made up by the left and applied to anyone who disagrees with them.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:48:32 AM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 10:50:38 AM EDT
[#22]
Actually, it's not. A neo con is a conservative that has given up the theory of less government, and is prone to using government force to achieve his political agenda. In this manner, his ideas about government control and intervention in our lives is just like those on the left. Where the vector points is not material, just the strength... |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:00:04 AM EDT
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I think you goofed the vector metaphor. The length is the same, the direction is different. If not, can you elaborate? |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:08:43 AM EDT
[#24]
No you are wrong Neo-Con is a meaningless term used to paint anyone who favors a strong pro-active national defense. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:17:01 AM EDT
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As far as I'm concerned, neo-con is nothing more than a different shade of liberal. F-'em all.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:22:47 AM EDT
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I've been a conservative since long before there were labels like "neo-conservative".
There's nothing "neo" about my conservativeness.... |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:26:12 AM EDT
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I'm a paleo-conservative, having come over to the Right Side long before many of y'all were born!
I have a lot of sympathy for those who are called 'Neo-cons', which is liberaleese for 'conservative Jews'! Eric The(WeAreAllSimply'Conservatives'AsFarAsI'mConcerned)Hun 
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Conservative Constructionist here. With some little-l libertarian leanings.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:33:40 AM EDT
[#29]
You had to come to the right side? Some of us were simply born here. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:38:48 AM EDT
[#30]
Is paleo-con before or after Piltdown- con???? |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 11:49:08 AM EDT
[#31]
Definition of neo-con -
A big gov't conservative as it relates to foreign policy (i.e. beleives we ARE the worlds policeman, at least as it concerns Israel) Stated another way, neo-cons beleive Israel is the 51st state, and a US welfare state at that. We get all Israels baggage, expenses, and socialist clap-trap, in return for some poorly defined, non-descript thing called "intelligence." (Editors note: said Israeli "intelligence" DID NOT warn us of Beirut 1983, or Cole 1998 or WTC 1993, or WTC 2001, or lack of WMD stockpiles in Iraq 2003, or anything of tangible benefit. Notably, the fine folks in Israeli "intelligence" DID bring us (even giving them the benefit of the doubt) that fuster-cluck called USS Liberty 1967. 34 dead, some 168 wounded, in an hour long case of "mistake identity" on a clear, bright and sunny day, 15 miles from ANY so-called "fog of war) I'm garandman, and I support the contents of this fine post. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 12:00:20 PM EDT
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I'm one of those complete right wingers........
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Posted: 11/1/2004 1:34:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Wrong. A neo-con is someone who used to be a liberal but became a foreign policy conservative over defense issues. It doesn't apply to most people here. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 1:41:37 PM EDT
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Not entirely disagreeing, but give some well-known names to illustrate. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 2:08:00 PM EDT
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Reagan, that Hippie Liberal.
I more conservative on every issue except abortion. Not including partial birth, that's just wrong. Not enough abortion to go around. Just look around and see all these people that should have been aborted. No sense in having children when no one in society will raise them properly. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 2:11:09 PM EDT
[#36]
Other than voting for the ban of MG's, I'd agree. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 3:58:42 PM EDT
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Ron Silver. |
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Posted: 11/1/2004 4:01:34 PM EDT
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I'm an apathetic realist. I know how things really are but I just dont care.
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Posted: 11/1/2004 6:19:31 PM EDT
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+1 had to fix it up a bit Still, for the life of me, I cannot understand why people on the far-right are so infatuated with that failed socialist experiment called 'Nazism'. Since it takes one to know one, Stalin said it best when describing Hitler, "Our fellow socialist in Europe." wganz ¶ |
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