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Posted: 8/15/2005 8:40:20 AM EDT
poll coming

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:42:44 AM EDT
Yes, I send her two checks a month.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:43:03 AM EDT
And they play with dolls.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:43:36 AM EDT
Yep, I used to run with him. He is real alright.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:43:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:


Do you believe the devil existS?
Sgatr15

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:43:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Yes, I send her two checks a month.



Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:44:08 AM EDT
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:44:10 AM EDT
Yes. Thousands of them.

They go by the umbrella title "DNC".
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:44:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:45:00 AM EDT
Absolutely, and he's a team member to boot!
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:45:05 AM EDT
Sure do...no doubt.

HH
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:45:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



That's bad!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:45:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:
Absolutely, and he's a team member to boot!



You talking about Hank?
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:46:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15


Catholic
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:46:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 8:47:26 AM EDT by MrClean4Hire]

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15


Catholic



Now thats just tacky

Even satan has enough sense to not be an atheist btw
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:48:46 AM EDT
"Foosball is the devil!"

"I invented electricity. Benjamin Frankilin is the devil!"
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:49:10 AM EDT
IBTM
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:49:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15


Catholic



Now thats just tacky

Even satan has enough sense to not be an atheist btw


All he has to do is worship himself and he's a satanist.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:49:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 8:51:20 AM EDT by TexasSIG]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15




He is certainly Christian, since he was put into his present job by God Himself.
Remember, the devil isn't working of his own free will. He was placed in his
job intentionally. All this about the angels "fall from grace" cannot be anything
but BS. God is IT. No angel could challenge Him without being allowed to do so.

So, people that worship "the devil" or "satan" are Christians as well, since for Satan
to exist requires the be created by God. I bet they would shit if they thought about it that way.

(I can say shit since were still in GD )
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:49:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:02:48 AM EDT by arowneragain]
He's an old friend of mine.






His greatest accomplishment is convincing people that He doesn't exist.

edit:

but what does it matter whether I believe he exists or not? My beliefs on the subject are irrelevant.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:50:12 AM EDT

Yes, the devil exists.


Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:50:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:51:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15



Many different religions have a similar concept for an evil spirit or force that is genrally referred to as "The Devil" in Judeo/Christian circles. But I have never heard of any supernatural entity called "The Devil" that was a secular concept. The Devil is a religious figure.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:52:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
edition.cnn.com/1999/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/18/clinton.legal.fees/link.hillary.clinton.jpg



He said devil, not the antiChrist.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:55:22 AM EDT
absolutely
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:56:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
edition.cnn.com/1999/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/18/clinton.legal.fees/link.hillary.clinton.jpg



He said devil, not the antiChrist.



Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:59:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Yes, I send her two checks a month.






Yup.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:01:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:01:34 AM EDT
yes, the devil exists, and has a free reign over the earth.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:07:39 AM EDT
Everyone who votes no should read "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis. You will then understand the true nature of the devil and the true nature of evil in the world around you.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:07:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:

but what does it matter whether I believe he exists or not? My beliefs on the subject are irrelevant.



Good point!
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:16:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:19:14 AM EDT by PerryF]




Egads my eyes are burning!!!





Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:19:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PerryF:
i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/06/davis.recall/vstory.feinstein.jpg




No, that's not the devil. THAT is what the devil has nightmares about. He is scared of her.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:19:31 AM EDT
Of course, how else could we get deviled ham?

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:19:58 AM EDT
ANti Christ-devil on earth.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:21:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
edition.cnn.com/1999/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/18/clinton.legal.fees/link.hillary.clinton.jpg



He said devil, not the antiChrist.



she's merely one of my many underlings
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:23:49 AM EDT
nope.

There is evil in the world, yes. But there is not a "devil".

My opinion. And this is in GD, so I can post that.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:24:57 AM EDT
He walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he MAY devour.
He can only devour you if you let him.
The Devil has no religion, religion is something man made, Christianity is a personal relationship with Christ. Big difference.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:26:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Whitepitt:
He walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he MAY devour.
He can only devour you if you let him.
The Devil has no religion, religion is something man made, Christianity is a personal relationship with Christ. Big difference.




I'd say it's pretty safe to assume the devil has a relationship with Christ, since they have met.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:28:10 AM EDT
I AM THE DEVIL


Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:29:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
And you're gonna meet a few for putting this in GD instead of the Religion forum



What religion is the devil?

Sgatr15




He is certainly Christian, since he was put into his present job by God Himself.
Remember, the devil isn't working of his own free will. He was placed in his
job intentionally. All this about the angels "fall from grace" cannot be anything
but BS. God is IT. No angel could challenge Him without being allowed to do so.

So, people that worship "the devil" or "satan" are Christians as well, since for Satan
to exist requires the be created by God. I bet they would shit if they thought about it that way.

(I can say shit since were still in GD )




AMEN TxSig!

Even Satan believes in Christ. He tempted Jesus often enough.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:31:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:35:47 AM EDT by Whitepitt]
The Devil knows Christ, all the demons know Christ Jesus his is the name to which every knee must bow.
He does not know him a personal Lord and Savior. Hence he is not a christian.
Even the Jews and Muslims believe in God, but hey are not christians.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:34:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:35:53 AM EDT by TexasSIG]

Originally Posted By Whitepitt:
The Devil knows Christ, all the demons know Christ Jesus his is the name to which every knee must bow.
He does not know him a personal Lord and Savior.



Ya know, I'm not even sure you could say that. Maybe God just gave him
the really crappy job of being the devil, and when it's all over, he gets to
return to Heaven and have a sno-cone and a vacation. Hard to say.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:38:24 AM EDT
Did it ever occur to anyone that if there was a devil he would have to be a whole lot smarter than he is usually portrayed to be?

Let's take that fire and brimstone stuff. Who would want to sign up for that? He is going to have one hell of a time getting recruits with that stuff.

Seems to me that -- if he was really there -- he would be more into nudie bars, lap dances, and more poontang than you could handle for all of eternity. (Lord knows you wouldn't get that stuff in Christian Heaven.)

Now, if the devil has fire and brimstone, and in heaven you sit around in church all day singing, and aren't even able to grope the hot babe beside you -- then who provides all the stuff that would really make an afterlife worthwhile?
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:39:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
poll coming

Sgatr15



Yes.

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:41:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
He is certainly Christian, since he was put into his present job by God Himself.
Remember, the devil isn't working of his own free will. He was placed in his
job intentionally. All this about the angels "fall from grace" cannot be anything
but BS. God is IT. No angel could challenge Him without being allowed to do so.

So, people that worship "the devil" or "satan" are Christians as well, since for Satan
to exist requires the be created by God. I bet they would shit if they thought about it that way.

(I can say shit since were still in GD )



Of course God allowed Satan to exercise his free will, just as He allowed Adam and Eve to exercise their free will.

That hardly equates to God "putting" Satan into his position.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:41:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:44:31 AM EDT by Whitepitt]
Read Revelations it is quite clear, no returning to heaven for that former angel.
Remember he was the highest of the Arch Angles, the most beautiful thing in creation his beauty and importance (vanity) is what caused him to rebel against God and desire to set himself up as ruler over all the exists.
There are only 3 angels referenced by name in the Bible. Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer.
He is into nudie bars and the like, it appeals to our flesh nature.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:42:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
Of course, how else could we get deviled ham?

images.amazon.com/images/P/B0005Z5ZAK.01-A2BF95SJ3X97HC._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg



I have always wondered how one "devils" something. Do they hand him a ham and have him sneeze on it or something?
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:46:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wolfman97:
Did it ever occur to anyone that if there was a devil he would have to be a whole lot smarter than he is usually portrayed to be?

Let's take that fire and brimstone stuff. Who would want to sign up for that? He is going to have one hell of a time getting recruits with that stuff.

Seems to me that -- if he was really there -- he would be more into nudie bars, lap dances, and more poontang than you could handle for all of eternity. (Lord knows you wouldn't get that stuff in Christian Heaven.)

Now, if the devil has fire and brimstone, and in heaven you sit around in church all day singing, and aren't even able to grope the hot babe beside you -- then who provides all the stuff that would really make an afterlife worthwhile?




*sigh*




Satan isn't in hell.


Satan is, at present, occupied with being the ruler of this world that we live in.

he's hard at work here - reading through this very thread reveals some of his work.

Satan isn't interested in hell, fire, brimstone, or none of that silliness.

Satan isn't even against religion. Satan isn't against 'good' works, or charity.


Satan's downfall......is that he desires to be worshipped, just like God.

The problem is that God created Satan - so he has no right to be worshipped, as he is a mere creation. Only the Creator deserves worship.

This was his downfall - he wanted to be worshipped for his beauty.


Satan IS quite beautiful....and this was his downfall.


Satan isn't trying to get people into hell.

Satan is trying to get people to worship him.

Those who do so, rarely (VERY rarely) even realize what they're doing.

But to do so - to worship satan, by failing to believe in Jesus - will earn you (by your choice, not God's) an eternity in hell.



Of course, you don't have to believe any of that.

God loves us enough to give us the free will to choose NOT to spend an eternity with Him.

It's your call.


Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:48:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Whitepitt:
Read Revelations it is quite clear, no returning to heave for that former angel.
Remember he was the highest of the Arch Angles, the most beautiful thing in creation his beauty and importance (vanity) is what caused him to rebel against God and desire to set himself up as ruler over all the exists.
There are only 3 angels referenced by name in the Bible. Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer.



And again, you don't suppose that an omnipotent God would have predicted, or more likely
actually planned on, this all occuring? I still think it's a bit blasphemous to think that Lucifer
really had any choice in the matter at all. Lucifer is doing what he is told to do, what God
ordained that he should do.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:49:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

Originally Posted By Whitepitt:
He walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he MAY devour.
He can only devour you if you let him.
The Devil has no religion, religion is something man made, Christianity is a personal relationship with Christ. Big difference.




I'd say it's pretty safe to assume the devil has a relationship with Christ, since they have met.



The Devil was once the second-hand man in heaven, however his prideful spirit caused him to try and overthrow god, however god being god, El diablo got smacked down....
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