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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:32:29 AM EDT

I'm not willing to test the idea but I believe the concept is sound.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:33:03 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:36:47 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:37:09 AM EDT

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Not sure why you would even start this thread.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:40:52 AM EDT

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I've always took it to be a joke in such a way that filing OFF the end of the firing pin would make the gun unable to fire a round.

But I suppose sharpening the pin would make a completely uncontrollable runaway gun. *shrug*

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:40:54 AM EDT

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who is the one retard that voted yes?

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:41:55 AM EDT

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No, thats not how it works

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:42:00 AM EDT

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Nope, but I believe it can produce light primer strikes.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:42:25 AM EDT

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Me

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:43:54 AM EDT

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I hope this is a troll post.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:44:02 AM EDT

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Maybe you meant sear?

Aloha, Mark

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:46:37 AM EDT

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Maybe you meant sear?

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The file need only be used on the firing pin.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:47:03 AM EDT

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I cannot think of any gun or setup where this would work. If one exists I'm unaware of it.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:48:51 AM EDT

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the OP

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:48:59 AM EDT

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I keep a small file in the grip of my ARs in case SHTF and I need to fo FA.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:50:07 AM EDT

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I cannot think of any gun or setup where this would work. If one exists I'm unaware of it.

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There is nothing special needed, just a regular Ar15. Like I said, I've not tried it but I imagine it would work. I'll explain later after I have fun reading the responses.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:51:11 AM EDT

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No, but it makes bullets tumble 87% greater rate of devastation.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:51:31 AM EDT

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Can't believe this thread is from a 2009er. OP, please explain the method of operation , parts engagement relationships etc of the AR15 fire control system.

Then, please explain why you think the firing pin has any control over the rate of fire.

Hint, the firing pin has nothing to do with anything other than taking the hit from the hammer and transferring it to the primer. That is it's only job, all itb does is float inside the channel until struck.

But please explain how you think the system works.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:52:27 AM EDT

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I've always took it to be a joke in such a way that filing OFF the end of the firing pin would make the gun unable to fire a round.

But I suppose sharpening the pin would make a completely uncontrollable runaway gun. *shrug*

No, thats not how it works

Fair enough. I wouldn't know because I've never tried and no one has explained to me how it might work.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:52:27 AM EDT

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There is nothing special needed, just a regular Ar15. Like I said, I've not tried it but I imagine it would work. I'll explain later after I have fun reading the responses.

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I think I see where you're going with this.

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:53:13 AM EDT

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Not I, in case you were wondering.

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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:54:35 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:57:40 AM EDT

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So your plan is to file the collar off the pin and stick it further into the carrier?

Posted: 4/16/2017 3:59:55 AM EDT

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In guessing you want to file it so the firing pin bounces around in the channel every time the bolt goes forward?

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:00:01 AM EDT

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This dumb ass voted yes, cause I think I know what you're trying to do...

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:04:05 AM EDT

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In guessing you want to file it so the firing pin bounces around in the channel every time the bolt goes forward?

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But would that really produce a machine gun or just an engineered malfunction? If you let go of the trigger wouldn't the gun continue to fire?

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:04:13 AM EDT

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That's where some of the filing occurs but one other modification to the gun is needed.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:05:40 AM EDT

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There is nothing special needed, just a regular Ar15. Like I said, I've not tried it but I imagine it would work. I'll explain later after I have fun reading the responses.

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Call me skeptical. I don't know everything, so I won't call you anything... but idunbelevit.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:06:53 AM EDT

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But would that really produce a machine gun or just an engineered malfunction? If you let go of the trigger wouldn't the gun continue to fire?

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No, if done correctly it should only work while the trigger is held. There is an increased chance of slam fires over an unmodified gun but it should not be a problem if the firing pin is precisely modified.

There is another change to the gun required to make it function correctly but the only required tool for the second change is pin punch.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:09:51 AM EDT

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I'm still not seeing how it's possible without modification to the sear.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:12:10 AM EDT

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That's where some of the filing occurs but one other modification to the gun is needed.

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So your plan is to file the collar off the pin and stick it further into the carrier?

That's where some of the filing occurs but one other modification to the gun is needed.

http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/226828/IMG-1332-188505.png

The disconnector.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:12:21 AM EDT

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Just remove the trigger disconnector OP. Then post pics.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:13:39 AM EDT

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It'll make a gun a lot safer. It helps prevent slam-fires.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:14:11 AM EDT

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The disconnector.

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So your plan is to file the collar off the pin and stick it further into the carrier?

That's where some of the filing occurs but one other modification to the gun is needed.

http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/226828/IMG-1332-188505.png

The disconnector.

And maybe a wolf heavy hammer spring just for good measure.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:15:18 AM EDT

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I think I see where this is going. It's not ONLY modification to the firing pin alone if I'm reading it right though, which is usually the joke.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:17:06 AM EDT

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According to the ATF?

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:19:52 AM EDT

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Also, the more oil you put on the bolt, the faster it can move forward so the farther the bullet will travel. This is what I was taught in the CIA.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:21:37 AM EDT

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I think I see where this is going. It's not ONLY modification to the firing pin alone if I'm reading it right though, which is usually the joke.

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Yeah but forgetting to install the disconnector isn't really a modification

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:22:37 AM EDT

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I'm not an engineer, but it seems like a mechanical impossibility.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:24:27 AM EDT

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I sense a great disturbance in the force, as if suddenly thousands of drills began spinning up at once.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:26:22 AM EDT

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How do you ensure the round doesnt fire out of battery?

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:33:22 AM EDT

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The bolt begins to cam and lock into the lugs while the carrier is still moving forward. The round is fully seated into the chamber before any firing protrusion occurs. but I can't test it unless someone gives me the money to buy a machine gun, that's the least y'all could do for me bringing new insight into this most ancient of myths.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:36:23 AM EDT

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People are now obviously reading the thread before voting, it was 4% yes, now up to 15% yes.

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:39:11 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:15:10 AM EDT

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Well, there are people here who think you can get on a sex offender list for public urination, so I'm guessing there will be some yes votes in this thread.

Posted: 4/16/2017 5:21:32 AM EDT

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please go educate yourself on how an AR works, Because how you thing it works....well, thats not it.

Posted: 4/16/2017 5:27:57 AM EDT

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I definitely voted yes! I just want to see where this tread goes.

Posted: 4/16/2017 5:33:09 AM EDT

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I voted who gives a shit, because that's the last thing I would do. You want to file the tip also to a point? Stupid fuckin idea.

Posted: 4/16/2017 5:34:36 AM EDT

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That's where some of the filing occurs but one other modification to the gun is needed.

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And what exactly is that that supposed to do?

The firing pin already protrudes through the bolt face enough to set off the primer.