User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:34:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Pipes are usually handy for water, gas, sewage, etc.
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:37:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Do religious people need "official" leaders to talk to god or to be spiritual? Is it required by GOd? Serious discussion. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:40:13 PM EDT
[#3]
We?
Ummmm....no. There is one mediator between God and man------Christ Jesus. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:41:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We? Ummmm....no. There is one mediator between God and man------Christ Jesus. QFT! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:41:46 PM EDT
[#5]
The answer is no. You don't need anyone to have a personal relationship with GOD.
Before Momma started "calling" people to preach because of social status and easy job, GOD calls people to preach and teach and educate the faithful. There are somethings that requires study and teaching to understand and it's a help to some people. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:44:27 PM EDT
[#6]
It's not required, but most people couldn't handle not having someone to tell them what to do.
Look at all the religious talking heads people quote, taking their opinions as statements of fact. Sheep will always need a shepherd... |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:45:14 PM EDT
[#7]
OP
nope, he is the elected king of a castle. Nothing more. He has great influence over the followers and the current pope seems to be a positive influence so that is good. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:47:28 PM EDT
[#8]
Subject matter experts to provide guidance to those who are interested is ok, but I don't see the need for a leader in that capacity.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:48:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
OP nope, he is the elected king of a castle. Nothing more. He has great influence over the followers and the current pope seems to be a positive influence so that is good. By positive influence you mean instigating an unchecked invasion of the US? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:49:52 PM EDT
[#10]
Well.......Those altar boys aren't going to diddle themselves.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:49:58 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
By positive influence you mean instigating an unchecked invasion of the US? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
OP nope, he is the elected king of a castle. Nothing more. He has great influence over the followers and the current pope seems to be a positive influence so that is good. By positive influence you mean instigating an unchecked invasion of the US? People here love to rationalize and make excuses for the modern red pope. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:50:29 PM EDT
[#12]
No Pope or priests but still Christian = Protestant
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:50:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We? Ummmm....no. There is one mediator between God and man------Christ Jesus. I'm hardly a Christian but even I know there is only one way to the farther and its not the Pope or some preacher. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:53:24 PM EDT
[#14]
This is a pretty stupid question. The answer depends entirely on your persuasion.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:55:31 PM EDT
[#15]
No, but I would have received way worse grades in math if there hadn't been a teacher to help me learn it. Just got to make sure the teacher isn't saying 2+2=5
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:55:38 PM EDT
[#16]
If you believe in Jesus and his teachings then the answer is yes.
1) He left the Apostles in charge and gave them explicit instructions as to their duty to spread the faith. They almost immediately appointed an additional "apostle" to make sure they had the numbers to do it. 2) They also appointed Deacons to carry out the duties and called down the Holy Spirit upon them as an ordination (just like the new apostles) 3) When there were questions of faith and "rules" (such as should gentiles be forced to be circumscribed) they met in Council and prayed to the Holy Spirit for guidance. Since the Spirit had been promised by Christ as a guide, these decisions were considered binding. 4) There is no call for a personal relationship with God in the New Testament. It is not there. On the contrary "Where two or more are gathered" "Take the matter to the Church" and other references seem to indicate that it is through the corporate salvation as members of the Body of Christ that we are saved adn Baptism is the method by which we become members of the Body (St. Paul). For these and other reasons the answer is yes. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:56:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Didn't some German guy nail something to a church door back in the early 1500s regarding this ?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:57:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So, no you dont. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:57:18 PM EDT
[#19]
John Pope maybe. It was a waste how they ended that. In fact everything after season 2 started getting wonky.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:57:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We? Ummmm....no. There is one mediator between God and man------Christ Jesus. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:59:16 PM EDT
[#21]
If someone claims to have a telephone to God, I claim that he belongs in a nuthouse. I'm a Christian, but I don't need a human spiritual power over me.
Not to knock genuinely good people who want to become "shepherds" to help people who want help, but I draw the line at anyone claiming that they speak for God. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:59:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There is one mediator between God and man------Christ Jesus. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 8:59:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Didn't some German guy nail something to a church door regarding this back in the early 1500s? LCMS here. No pope, no indulgences, no problem.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:00:47 PM EDT
[#24]
The Pope can sell the Vatican treasures and give it all to Mexico. Until he follows his own dogma he should butt out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:01:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Do religious people need "official" leaders to talk to god or to be spiritual? Is it required by GOd? Serious discussion. No. Frankly, some religious leaders like to act like they are the gatekeeper to heaven. They are not. Your salvation is between you and God. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:02:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Do religious people need "official" leaders to talk to god or to be spiritual? Is it required by GOd? Serious discussion. Welcome to the Reformation. Only 500 years too late. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:04:02 PM EDT
[#27]
Well, throughout the old and new testaments there were "spiritual leaders".
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:04:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No Pope or priests but still Christian = Protestant Ah don't need no Pope to listen to. ( Hangs on the every word of Billy Graham.) Current Pope is a leftist liberation theologian. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:04:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Frankly, some religious leaders like to act like they are the gatekeeper to heaven. They are not. Your salvation is between you and God. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do religious people need "official" leaders to talk to god or to be spiritual? Is it required by GOd? Serious discussion. No. Frankly, some religious leaders like to act like they are the gatekeeper to heaven. They are not. Your salvation is between you and God.  |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:05:01 PM EDT
[#30]
The spiritual realm is hierarchical--and hierarchy is part of God's sense of "order".
God chose Moses--then told Moses to select his helpers, to shepherd His people. Christ chose 12 disciples--and to them He gave Authority--what you bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven, and what you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. People don't like being called to account or submitting to authority--but it IS part of God's aesthetic. Those who claim they "don't need a church" are usually deluded about the state of their own soul. YMMV. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:05:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Didn't some German guy nail something to a church door back in the early 1500s regarding this ? Yet Luther preserved the hierarchy of Bishops and ministers that exists still. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:05:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If someone claims to have a telephone to God, I claim that he belongs in a nuthouse. I'm a Christian, but I don't need a human spiritual power over me. Not to knock genuinely good people who want to become "shepherds" to help people who want help, but I draw the line at anyone claiming that they speak for God. and the Pope does not claim that.... |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:08:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
QFT! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
We? Ummmm....no. There is one mediator between God and man------Christ Jesus. QFT! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:09:58 PM EDT
[#34]
If Catholics believe in the position and authority of the Pope, I respect their right to that belief.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:11:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's not required, but most people couldn't handle not having someone to tell them what to do. Look at all the religious talking heads people quote, taking their opinions as statements of fact. Sheep will always need a shepherd... thats a good way of putting it. I think of it as an industry that produces an imaginary product that only a fool would invest significant time or money into. I believe in god and the 10 commandments, golden rule and thats about it. All the other nonsense required to be a good christian doesn't interest me |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:14:40 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
and the Pope does not claim that.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
If someone claims to have a telephone to God, I claim that he belongs in a nuthouse. I'm a Christian, but I don't need a human spiritual power over me. Not to knock genuinely good people who want to become "shepherds" to help people who want help, but I draw the line at anyone claiming that they speak for God. and the Pope does not claim that.... Well, he "leads" the catholic denomination, right? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:14:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Ain't nobody got time for commie pope.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:15:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
thats a good way of putting it. I think of it as an industry that produces an imaginary product that only a fool would invest significant time or money into. I believe in god and the 10 commandments, golden rule and thats about it. All the other nonsense required to be a good christian doesn't interest me Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
It's not required, but most people couldn't handle not having someone to tell them what to do. Look at all the religious talking heads people quote, taking their opinions as statements of fact. Sheep will always need a shepherd... thats a good way of putting it. I think of it as an industry that produces an imaginary product that only a fool would invest significant time or money into. I believe in god and the 10 commandments, golden rule and thats about it. All the other nonsense required to be a good christian doesn't interest me I don't find it to be nonsense at all. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:18:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. So, no you dont. OK. So why did Jesus have Disciples? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:19:48 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's not required, but most people couldn't handle not having someone to tell them what to do. Look at all the religious talking heads people quote, taking their opinions as statements of fact. Sheep will always need a shepherd... FFS what is this, an atheist shill thread? lol You couldn't look more ignorant... |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:20:34 PM EDT
[#41]
It depends if you believe in the eucherist.
That said, the second issue is moral relativism. Without a formal church, the believer ultimately will invent their own religion, choosing only what they want. --- The Pope is the Bishop. Most of his "authority" comes only from speaking in union with existing docterine and in union with the Bishops. Other than that, the Vatican is mostly administrative. The other big thing the Pope does is approve the ordination of Bishops and select the Cardinals (which in recent history has been from the Bishops). In all fairness, I suspect the writings of most Bishops are not as well published as the Popes, but outside of their own dioceses-are probably as authoritative. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:21:15 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
OK. So why did Jesus have Disciples? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. So, no you dont. OK. So why did Jesus have Disciples? Disciples are his followers. The better question is why did He have apostles, and specifically refer to Peter as "the Rock" upon which He will build His church... |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:23:30 PM EDT
[#43]
It's in the SOPs.
You can't bring up any changes to the SOPs until the next contract negotiation. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:25:53 PM EDT
[#44]
Nope. Acceptance of Christ is all you need.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:29:08 PM EDT
[#45]
There is no god so it really does not mater.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:30:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There is no god so it really does not mater. Wow. I just cut myself on that edge. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:31:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, he "leads" the catholic denomination, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
If someone claims to have a telephone to God, I claim that he belongs in a nuthouse. I'm a Christian, but I don't need a human spiritual power over me. Not to knock genuinely good people who want to become "shepherds" to help people who want help, but I draw the line at anyone claiming that they speak for God. and the Pope does not claim that.... Well, he "leads" the catholic denomination, right? yes, he does. Do you know who Dr Ronnie Floyd is? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:36:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
yes, he does. Do you know who Dr Ronnie Floyd is? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
If someone claims to have a telephone to God, I claim that he belongs in a nuthouse. I'm a Christian, but I don't need a human spiritual power over me. Not to knock genuinely good people who want to become "shepherds" to help people who want help, but I draw the line at anyone claiming that they speak for God. and the Pope does not claim that.... Well, he "leads" the catholic denomination, right? yes, he does. Do you know who Dr Ronnie Floyd is? No, and I probably don't give a crap who he is, because this sounds like it's going to be a complete non-sequitor. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:38:15 PM EDT
[#49]
"pope thread"
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2016 9:39:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
"pope thread" Does a bear pope in the woods? |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
