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Posted: 8/30/2010 4:53:52 AM EDT
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My kids have heard me say 6, or 5, many times––"There is nothing civil about a civil war."
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Posted: 8/30/2010 4:55:15 AM EDT
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"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson I do feel that knowledge of history is very important. I also feel that there is nothing wrong with the spirit of revolution. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 5:03:00 AM EDT
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I had a conversation with a fellow about the age of 19 yrs old.....quite a smart kid.....but green as the day is long. He's got a lot of misplaced aggression.....understands that the country is headed down the wrong path....doesn't know how or why.....and is intent on the "revolution now" ideology. Do they not teach anything about how most revolutions have went in the past?.....I'm no spring chicken....but the dinos had been dead a long time when I was in school. I know how bloody these wars of ideology have been.....and I do see the need for massive change in the gov't as it stands....and I know that the transition we face may result in a "not so pretty" end..... To blindly scream for revolution....and not know why?.....his grasp of history is slack, to say it nicely. I gave him a copy of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.....and told him to devote 1/2 an hour every night to reading about American history. I don't know if it will help..... you are kidding right? today they give grades away today. i taught a few courses in a graduate program at a highly respected school nearby. most students could not spell or frame a sentence. only a handful could string a few thoughts to make a paragraph. i had one student tell me, "i have a perfect 4.0 average, so i deserve a higher grade". when i refused, she went to the college president. he changed it without consulting me or even looking at her piss poor work product. in this country no one expects educational skills to be better than fifth grade levels. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 5:07:17 AM EDT
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basic history today seems to be
bunch of evil white slave owning deists declared war against the aging monarchy of King George and murdered all the kings troops in their sleep and we don't deserve the great country we have. Lincoln was a democrat and only ran as a Republican to get around the whole Whig agenda..and freed the black man, so they owe us Dem's a gratitude eternally TEDDY Roosevelt was a GREAT PRESIDENT who wasn't a racist and eugenicist and an American imperialist woodrow wilson was the NEXT Greatest president, who didnt scrub Heroic Blacks from the history books, nor segragate the military because "you can catch diseases from those people" and he wasnt a supporter of only the "right people should breed".. FDR was the ABSOLUTE BEST POTUS who DIDN'T drag us in to socialism and scared his own party so much, they in-acted POTUS Term Limits for the first time EVER.. JFK was nearly a GOD Struck down by evil republican backed nut job(who was actually a democrat and communist but only a patsey for NIXON) Jimmy Carter was unable to succeed as POTUS because EVIL REPUBLICANS blocked his every move,,he was the kindest and gentlest POTUS Ever..and we shall honor his name for infinity. OBAMA IS GOD, bow to Obama,,,, 
no, they dont teach SHIT in school anymore,,seems teachers have enough problems handling the 20% of the fucksticks offspring they send to school to be edumacatedd because the sure as shit barely teach them to wipe their asses and tie their shoes at home  ....
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Posted: 8/30/2010 5:23:27 AM EDT
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"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson I do feel that knowledge of history is very important. I also feel that there is nothing wrong with the spirit of revolution. The spirit....yes....but along with a knowledge of why. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 5:25:53 AM EDT
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This is a rhetorical observation....btw.
I know how little out kids are taught in public schools. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 6:05:19 AM EDT
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My kids are staying in private school if it bankrupts me, and they will read and learn the founding documents under my supervision. The public school system nowadays is nothing more than a curriculum of liberal (actually, socialist and somewhat fascist) indoctrination to prepare them for college, where they will be turned into full-fledged marxists. Sounds like your little green friend is primed for his level 2 (marxist) training.
Those who don't know the history of this country and who have not read the Constitution will not understand that the Founders set up a system whereby every 2-4 years we can have a revolution *without* all of the blood they were left with no choice but to spill. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 6:29:58 AM EDT
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My oldest son started watching a cartoon called "Liberty's Kids" its about the American Revolution and covers a lot in the 40 episodes. It has a lot of great history in it and has made my son ask many questions. I liked it also as it told kids the truth about slavery that Africans sold there own people first to the white man as slaves. It also get in a lot of the deeper issues about the American Revolution. You can find it here if you have netflix.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 7:07:51 AM EDT
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I'm only 12 yrs out of high school, and I can tell you back in '98 we weren't taught any history aside from ancient history. I can only imagine today.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 7:11:54 AM EDT
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This is a rhetorical observation....btw. I know how little out kids are taught in public schools. For instance, spell checking or proofreading? We teach them, sometimes they don't want to learn. Consider that. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 9:08:47 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that
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Posted: 8/30/2010 9:39:13 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that
Spelling every third word wrong, and total lack of capitalization and punctuation really doesn't help your point. 
I'm just barely over college age. Actually, I have several friends my age that are still taking classes, which I guess still makes me college age. I think that a large part of the problem is that many of the kids go through school with a "I'm never going to need to know this in the real world" mentality. I can't tell you how many times EVERY DAY in high school I heard, "Why do I need to know this, I'm never going to use this in real life." My wife, for example, can't pass an algebra class to save her life, and it's not because she just doesn't 'get it.' It's because she doesn't apply herself, because she has convinced herself that there is no practical application for algebra in any career path she may take. (  ) The result of the "I don't need to know this" attitude is, as soon as they take the test on a subject, everything they learned is purged.
"Whew, don't need to remember that anymore." The problem is, especially with math and science, theories and techniques build on what you have already learned. So, these kids learn something, take the test, purge the information, then when they need to use it again several weeks, months or years later, it's like the first time they're hearing it all over again. edit- typos 
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Posted: 8/30/2010 9:55:34 AM EDT
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Spelling every third word wrong, and total lack of capitalization and punctuation really doesn't help your point. almost class time and typing like ur textn is a lot faster. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:15:49 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that 
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:27:06 AM EDT
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When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor we had to dig foxholes on the California beaches to stop them invading us. They were right off the coast, like Catalina. Look at any map. They were right fucking there!
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:28:01 AM EDT
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Spelling every third word wrong, and total lack of capitalization and punctuation really doesn't help your point. almost class time and typing like ur textn is a lot faster. It still totally undermines the point you were trying to make and causes you look just as uneducated as the average person the OP is talking about. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:29:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:32:02 AM EDT
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My little girl is 4 years old. By the time she is ten she will know more about US history then most adults. I refuse to raise a mindless conformist zombie.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:32:56 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that This is the sort of thing that petrifies me. I don't think it's a gag. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:35:49 AM EDT
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Really? I teach undergrad level and several times I have failed students who have then gone to the dean.
In fact, two diverse students last term. I got asked for a copy of attendence, their graded papers, their tests, and my referrals to the campus writing assistance center. I provided all of those, and they got jack. Sometimes teaching college is like being an MP, you spend more time covering your butt in reports and BS CYA emails than you do doing your job. BTW: Starting Sept 4, turnitin is allowing online grading of papers along with the originality checks. No more Red Pens! Quoted:
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I had a conversation with a fellow about the age of 19 yrs old.....quite a smart kid.....but green as the day is long. He's got a lot of misplaced aggression.....understands that the country is headed down the wrong path....doesn't know how or why.....and is intent on the "revolution now" ideology. Do they not teach anything about how most revolutions have went in the past?.....I'm no spring chicken....but the dinos had been dead a long time when I was in school. I know how bloody these wars of ideology have been.....and I do see the need for massive change in the gov't as it stands....and I know that the transition we face may result in a "not so pretty" end..... To blindly scream for revolution....and not know why?.....his grasp of history is slack, to say it nicely. I gave him a copy of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.....and told him to devote 1/2 an hour every night to reading about American history. I don't know if it will help..... you are kidding right? today they give grades away today. i taught a few courses in a graduate program at a highly respected school nearby. most students could not spell or frame a sentence. only a handful could string a few thoughts to make a paragraph. i had one student tell me, "i have a perfect 4.0 average, so i deserve a higher grade". when i refused, she went to the college president. he changed it without consulting me or even looking at her piss poor work product. in this country no one expects educational skills to be better than fifth grade levels. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:36:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: Spelling every third word wrong, and total lack of capitalization and punctuation really doesn't help your point. almost class time and typing like ur textn is a lot faster. What an awesome example. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:37:24 AM EDT
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He's 19. Anything he doesn't know by now isn't someone else's failure, its his willful ignorance. My parents taught me from an early age that I'm responsible for my own education, not only the amount of effort I put into class but the learning that takes place outside of school too.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:38:04 AM EDT
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This is a rhetorical observation....btw. I know how little out kids are taught in public schools. For instance, spell checking or proofreading? We teach them, sometimes they don't want to learn. Consider that. wow......sorry for the error....I spell checked.....didn't proof read......it's a message board.....I didn't realize there would be a spellen test. GD GD...... ....sheesh.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:39:16 AM EDT
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It's not limited to a single age group. There are plenty of older guys with revolutionary fantasies.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:41:35 AM EDT
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While ill agree that the public school system is in shambles, his stupidity is not a result of this.
You yourself said the kid has alot of blind hatred. With this kind of mindset, he is not to be confused with the facts. Truth is, even if they did read about the horrors of war it would be unlikley to phase them. Especially in movies and video games the taking of lives, disaster areas, and "war" are "accessable" with the push of a button. And its glorified! How would you know the fear of being shot at when your closest brush has been playing COD3? So what if you die? The game just starts over. Most people dont know what its like to be truly hungry, miserable, destitute. The viewer can watch everything unfold as they sit in a climate controlled room, in comfortable clothes, in a safe environment. This kid is just angry at the world. He also knows dick-all about what the world would look like if just such an occourance took place. All he's got to go off of is movies and video games. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:42:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is a rhetorical observation....btw. I know how little out kids are taught in public schools. For instance, spell checking or proofreading? We teach them, sometimes they don't want to learn. Consider that. wow......sorry for the error....I spell checked.....didn't proof read......it's a message board.....I didn't realize there would be a spellen test. GD GD...... ....sheesh.That's fucking comic genius.  |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:45:25 AM EDT
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yep, kids now days are pretty much retarded when it comes to history, math, science, the english language, driving, responsibility, being honest, basic home and auto maintainance, etc......
however, they do know everything about their favorite celeb and other useless gay crap like that
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:45:48 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that You should ask for a refund on your tuition.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:49:31 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that The stuff you're talking about was completely covered by the fourth grade when I went to school. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:59:26 AM EDT
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I'm only 12 yrs out of high school, and I can tell you back in '98 we weren't taught any history aside from ancient history. I can only imagine today. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile in '98 I was in 7th grade and we had American history. Lather, rinse, repeat in sophomore year high school. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 10:59:37 AM EDT
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I remember being the only kid in class answering questions in all of my history classes and especially my current events class. I would even say how sad it was that no one else knows anything about history in the class. It got down to the point where the teacher would just wait for me to put my hand up after we both would give other kids a chance to answer. Of course my liberal English teacher would try brainwashing kids into his point of views and I'd be the only one to stand up to him and debate him. I remember going back there with my recruiter a few years after I graduated and I handed him a huge Air Force calendar knowing he'd love it.
I'm 22 and I'm the first to say my generation is the worst generation to date. No one cares enough about history and politics and they lack common sense for the most part. All they care about is facebook, reality TV, and drinking beer. Then they go to college and are brainwashed into becoming liberals and "going green" since they think Earth is going to implode. If you honestly have a conversation with them about the hot issues in the elections and they have no fucking clue except what they were told or what they see on TV. They truly aren't on one side politically at all, except they are convinced to vote one way as they lack the brain power to educate themselves and do what they believe in. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:00:11 AM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that What school in IL do you attend? Quoted:
almost class time and typing like ur textn is a lot faster. makes you sound uneducated. FIFY |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:09:49 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure all of our history dept. is of the liberal persuasion.
It really makes you wonder what is going on with this generation. It's not just the teaching/lack of learning. Maybe being raised by computers, TVs, cell phones, etc? |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:12:01 AM EDT
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OP, what you've described has zero to do with knowledge of history, and everything to do with the kid being 19. All teenagers go through that phase, I know I sure as hell did. Now I have a Masters in History, and I know the difference.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:14:43 AM EDT
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Well this a cheery and encouraging bunch. by the way which generation was that got us in to the mess where in right now anyway just askin. And did we just got this way by ourselves we didnt have examples or anything did we. all our fault
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:24:28 AM EDT
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Well this a cheery and encouraging bunch. by the way which generation was that got us in to the mess where in right now anyway just askin. And did we just got this way by ourselves we didnt have examples or anything did we. all our fault This thread simply MUST continue. Please, Farmraised89, continue to enlighten us. I'm having too much fun reading this banter for it to be over so soon. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:39:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:46:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:57:43 AM EDT
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Well this a cheery and encouraging bunch. by the way which generation was that got us in to the mess where in right now anyway just askin. And did we just got this way by ourselves we didnt have examples or anything did we. all our fault Please continue your posting. You are singlehandedly reinforcing every point most of the posters are trying to make. Bravo! |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:05:45 PM EDT
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This is a rhetorical observation....btw. I know how little out kids are taught in public schools. For instance, spell checking or proofreading? We teach them, sometimes they don't want to learn. Consider that. wow......sorry for the error....I spell checked.....didn't proof read......it's a message board.....I didn't realize there would be a spellen test. GD GD...... ....sheesh.Its all relevant and systemic. You cant blame schools for things you don't do yourself. You missed the point.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:11:48 PM EDT
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Well this a cheery and encouraging bunch. by the way which generation was that got us in to the mess where in right now anyway just askin. And did we just got this way by ourselves we didnt have examples or anything did we. all our fault It certainly was the older generation that "got us in to the mess", but looking at your total inability to construct a logical sentence, I'm damned sure that you're not going to be the one that gets us out. I may be an old fart, but at least I know how to write (and spell). And you're in college? |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:31:41 PM EDT
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ur rite because i dont take the time to put , . ! ? and spell out every word on a online forum im a idiot. Sry im busy. im not sayin that my generation shouldnt take responsablitiy, all im sayin is that when we're in school they give us a passing grade and pass us on. And by the way did u know that a school gets more money the better they do on standarized testing. so thats wat they teach us(wats on those standarized test for that particular year) for the most part.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:32:38 PM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that That's a facepalm if I've ever seen one. Seriously, you've thrown every excuse in the book at your "problem" except actually doing the work. "No, no, it isn't MY fault I don't know anything!"
BASIC MATH WITHOUT A CALCULATOR? HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO HARD! What will you do when your calculus exams in college don't allow calculators?
8 pints to a gallon, 16oz to a pint. Pretty sure I memorized that in the 4th grade. And you're having problems with it in college?
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:34:16 PM EDT
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ur rite because i dont take the time to put , . ! ? and spell out every word on a online forum im a idiot. Sry im busy. im not sayin that my generation shouldnt take responsablitiy, all im sayin is that when we're in school they give us a passing grade and pass us on. And by the way did u know that a school gets more money the better they do on standarized testing. so thats wat they teach us(wats on those standarized test for that particular year) for the most part. It takes me less time to type using correct spelling and grammar than without.  Why? Because I'd actually have to think about it.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:40:27 PM EDT
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There seems to be a consensus for some reason that either history is not taught or some contorted view of it is taught in high school.
I actually read through the course history books and none that I can remember skewed what actually happened in any way. It's the simple fact that most kids don't study it, or study enough to pass the test and do not retain anything they learned. I specifically remember having problems in history class with jocks or burn outs asking me to give them answers on a test or to be the one to write up a report for group projects. The majority don't care, and will do whatever it takes to pass with a passing grade. They retain nothing, and the ones that make it to college then try to do the same, or they take history, get involved with politics and shape what they learned the best way they can to fit their new found agenda.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:45:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age. they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that That's a facepalm if I've ever seen one. Seriously, you've thrown every excuse in the book at your "problem" except actually doing the work. "No, no, it isn't MY fault I don't know anything!"BASIC MATH WITHOUT A CALCULATOR? HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO HARD! What will you do when your calculus exams in college don't allow calculators?8 pints to a gallon, 16oz to a pint. Pretty sure I memorized that in the 4th grade. And you're having problems with it in college? I think I just lost all faith in humanity. again, I remember being taught the equivalence and measurement charts in grade school. Kids are not retaining most of what they learned in school, for whatever reasons. I believe those reasons are what can be debated. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:48:55 PM EDT
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im in college rite now. U say we dont know the basics it part its because they throw so much at us. you mean, like, 3rd grade level writing ability? look at wat ur kids are learning and at wat age, and then look at wat u learn at that age.I have no idea what you just said they are flying through the basic to get to the "bigger and better" stuff.how slow do you want them to go? Alabama public schools have two paces for 9th grade algebra, for example. One goes in a semester, one goes in two semesters. I actually have legitimate issues with basic math skills and I made a B in the faster paced edition. There are students who are literally what would have once been clinically refered to as "retarded" that complete the half speed edition with a C or better. It has more to do with effort than anything else. like basic math without a caculator, how many ounces are in a pint gallon and so forth. dont blame the kids or the teachers, its the goverment by tell them how wat and when to learn. Plus if they taught american history correctly. There would be no libs, and we cant have that http://www.gymidiots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/son-i-am-disappoint.gif Another No Child Left Behind success story.
PS: Nothing I said is a personal attack, it is simply a commentary on the epic FAIL of NCLB, which Farmraised89 presented himself as an exquisite case study for. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 12:54:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Early U.S. History is largely covered in primary school where it is very basic. Modern U.S. History in most schools concentrates on the Civil Rights Movement and doesn't start until High School. College and Universities typically have very loose requirements for history that allows for an individual to know very little before they graduate. Most High Schools have a Government class, but not all high schools require a full year of government. So, what you end up with is a population of voters that have very little knowledge of history and even less knowledge of how our Constitutional Republic operates. I find most women have zero to no interest whatsoever in history ever in life. So you're also talking about 50 to 60% of Voters with absolutely no desire to learn history. I mean look at the history channel and notice most the commercials are geared toward men including the programing. There is a reason for that. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 1:01:27 PM EDT
[#49]
History is the teaching of lies and half truths.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 1:01:52 PM EDT
[#50]
did i not just say "im not sayin that my generation shouldnt take responsablitiy" ????? not sayin its all ur gens fault but part of it is. when u where a kid and in school did u do ur "very very best like a good little boy?" or did u like to goof around. When kids are not taught by there parent/teachers to stop goofing around. will they????? and when parents stick us in front of a T.V. Xbox instead of being an actual parent is that our fault.(not my parents i worked) Again not saying its all ur gens fault but sometime it is. a lot of people my age(21) where not raised like u gen was.
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