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Posted: 6/22/2016 10:49:46 AM EDT
Years ago when people called him a Muslim, or at the very least a muslim sympathizer, they were often shouted down as 'crazy' with a follow up of, "He's a Christian!!!!"


Personally, I know he's not due to an interview from when he was a Senator (which is probably impossible to find now) he did with a newspaper (I think it was a campus newspaper) asking him about his "faith". In the interview he stated that Christ is "not the only way to Heaven" and said He was a "good man" but wasn't "God". Yeah, that's the exact opposite of what a Christian believes.

Anyhoo......do even the most ardent of libs even believe he's still a "Christian"?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 10:52:00 AM EDT
LOL - not a chance in hades he is.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 10:57:54 AM EDT
He is a narcissist. He puts his own self worth above even God.

He has the most to prove to the muslims of the world seeking their favor and admiration because the 'Dreams of his Father' didn't really include him.

He hates America and all we represent because America stands in the way of him gaining that what he craves.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 10:58:25 AM EDT
A lot of people believe he is.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 10:59:05 AM EDT
I agree, he would elevate himself to 'god status' if he could.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:01:45 AM EDT
Look at how he protect muslims....brings them in when they are not an asset to America...and does not destroy ISIS.

Obama is a muslim.

The muslim ideology hates America.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:02:33 AM EDT
I don't think anyone knows the nitty gritty details of his religious beliefs, including himself.

If he claims to be a Christian, he's a lousy one. If he claims to be a Muslim, he's a lousy one. If he claims to have no belief in a deity at all, he's not even good at that.

He's a politician. Any public statement regarding his faith is suspect by default. Everything that comes out of a politician's mouth is a lie until proven otherwise. You're never going to get his true beliefs. You're only going to hear what he thinks will benefit him politically, or at the very least will not harm him politically.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:03:34 AM EDT
Well, he says he is a Christian, and that is good enough for me. He would never lie, I mean it is not like he was raised in a culture, a society, in which it is acceptable to obfuscate, lie, and shield ones true intentions.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:03:40 AM EDT
Black liberation theologist with Islamic roots.

basically America is bad and needs to be punished. Islam is doing bad things because of America.

White people are the debil and all the problems in minority communities are directly the fault of whitey. The same for why ISIS is angry.

read it, learn it, understand dear leader.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:03:42 AM EDT
Believe has nothing to do with it.

They will say it when it is politically expedient.

They will not say it when it is not politically expedient.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:04:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RANGER_556:
I agree, he would elevate himself to 'god status' if he could.
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Caligula did it, so there is a precedent.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:04:39 AM EDT
Politicians religious views are fluid. They only believe in power.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:05:29 AM EDT
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I love to watch that fucker squirm as i shoved some thick cut bacon into his cum-dumpster.

Ill watch to see if he spits or swallows...THEN ill make my decision.

BACON= Muslim litmus paper
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
A lot of people believe he is.
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I find that slightly shocking. You really have to intentionally look the other way at so many things to hold that position.

I guess you have to have been raised with zero knowledge of Christianity. Even those raised in the Church who left have to have at least enough knowledge to see through him.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:08:08 AM EDT
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If he were what he claims, wouldnt there have been a bit of fuss because muslims dont like apostates?




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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:10:19 AM EDT
FBHO
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:11:37 AM EDT
still?

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:12:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Look at how he protect muslims....brings them in when they are not an asset to America...and does not destroy ISIS.

Obama is a muslim.

The muslim ideology hates America.
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he's not a muslim. he's a godless communist.

any favoring muslims he does is because he thinks doing so will damage the current order and speed along it's replacement with his commie wet dream
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:16:39 AM EDT
No, he's either

A) a practicing Muslim

or

B) an Atheist Dhimmi




I personally think he thinks he is a god, Narcisism is a mental disease, and he only dabbles in religion when it suits his agenda or makes him look good on tv.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:18:14 AM EDT
He is a Burger King Christian.............he likes it his way.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:18:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
I don't think anyone knows the nitty gritty details of his religious beliefs, including himself.

If he claims to be a Christian, he's a lousy one. If he claims to be a Muslim, he's a lousy one. If he claims to have no belief in a deity at all, he's not even good at that.

He's a politician. Any public statement regarding his faith is suspect by default. Everything that comes out of a politician's mouth is a lie until proven otherwise. You're never going to get his true beliefs. You're only going to hear what he thinks will benefit him politically, or at the very least will not harm him politically.
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I think that is pretty accurate.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:22:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
I don't think anyone knows the nitty gritty details of his religious beliefs, including himself.

If he claims to be a Christian, he's a lousy one. If he claims to be a Muslim, he's a lousy one. If he claims to have no belief in a deity at all, he's not even good at that.

He's a politician. Any public statement regarding his faith is suspect by default. Everything that comes out of a politician's mouth is a lie until proven otherwise. You're never going to get his true beliefs. You're only going to hear what he thinks will benefit him politically, or at the very least will not harm him politically.
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he had been attending a Black Liberation Theology Church for more than 20 years. Their view of Christianity is skewed - to be polite. The Reverend Wright, is supposedly a Christian minister. I doubt much of what he preached could be found in a normal Bible.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:24:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
A lot of people believe he is.
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It doesn't matter what people believe. Ultimately, it's between him and God.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:27:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ceddie:
He is a narcissist. He puts his own self worth above even God.

He has the most to prove to the muslims of the world seeking their favor and admiration because the 'Dreams of his Father' didn't really include him.

He hates America and all we represent because America stands in the way of him gaining that what he craves.
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and that would be a world Caliphate.
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Originally Posted By dorobuta:



he had been attending a Black Liberation Theology Church for more than 20 years. Their view of Christianity is skewed - to be polite. The Reverend Wright, is supposedly a Christian minister. I doubt much of what he preached could be found in a normal Bible.
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Originally Posted By dorobuta:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
I don't think anyone knows the nitty gritty details of his religious beliefs, including himself.

If he claims to be a Christian, he's a lousy one. If he claims to be a Muslim, he's a lousy one. If he claims to have no belief in a deity at all, he's not even good at that.

He's a politician. Any public statement regarding his faith is suspect by default. Everything that comes out of a politician's mouth is a lie until proven otherwise. You're never going to get his true beliefs. You're only going to hear what he thinks will benefit him politically, or at the very least will not harm him politically.



he had been attending a Black Liberation Theology Church for more than 20 years. Their view of Christianity is skewed - to be polite. The Reverend Wright, is supposedly a Christian minister. I doubt much of what he preached could be found in a normal Bible.

And I'm saying that until it's proven otherwise, he only attended that church for more than 20 years for calculated political reasons. I'm serious - it would not surprise me the least bit to learn that he doesn't truly believe the teachings of a church he attended for 20 years.

I'm telling you, none of us really knows. I'm not even sure he knows. I doubt he gives it much thought, outside of what it does (or did) for him politically to get him to where he is today.

And yeah, I'm that cynical.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:31:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
A lot of people believe he is.
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They would be real fucking stupid
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:34:09 AM EDT
It doesn't matter to me. Plenty of atheists know the difference between right and wrong and plenty of religious people do not. The fact that the Heer trooped all over Europe and Africa wearing belt buckles that said God was with them did not make it so.
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:



he's not a muslim. he's a godless communist.

any favoring muslims he does is because he thinks doing so will damage the current order and speed along it's replacement with his commie wet dream
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:
Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Look at how he protect muslims....brings them in when they are not an asset to America...and does not destroy ISIS.

Obama is a muslim.

The muslim ideology hates America.



he's not a muslim. he's a godless communist.

any favoring muslims he does is because he thinks doing so will damage the current order and speed along it's replacement with his commie wet dream


bingo !

we have a winner .
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:38:46 AM EDT
He went to that hate-whitey megachurch for a long time.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:40:29 AM EDT
he's as christian as alot on this site.He is most definitely an atheist his love of islam is a cultural fascination, mulatto guilt, comfort, ignorance, and reverse racism.

I grew up in the south we learn to love the individual and dislike a group. Obama uses everything for his own gain . individuals groups, religion, miracles, and tragedy.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:46:44 AM EDT
His Dad Frank Marshall Davis was a huge commie and commies are atheists. They are flooding Western Society with muzzies because they need workers and
don't really care what country they are from. Abortion has killed too many people to replace the baby boomers. There's a now hiring sign on every block around here.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:50:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
No, he's either

A) a practicing Muslim

or

B) an Atheist Dhimmi

I personally think he thinks he is a god, Narcisism is a mental disease, and he only dabbles in religion when it suits his agenda or makes him look good on tv.
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You left out the possibility that he is a practicing Muslim employing Taqiyya, the Muslim practice of lying and even breaking Sharia law to act against an enemy of Islam.

From Wikipedia:
"There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being Taqiyya. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them."
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:50:52 AM EDT
FPNI
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:51:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dorobuta:
Black liberation theologist with Islamic roots.

basically America is bad and needs to be punished. Islam is doing bad things because of America.

White people are the debil and all the problems in minority communities are directly the fault of whitey. The same for why ISIS is angry.

read it, learn it, understand dear leader.
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I agree completely.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:52:19 AM EDT
I can only view him through the lens of his own works. And that view is fairly unflattering if one professes to be Christian. He's seemingly openly hostile to the Church most of the time. When he does engage the Church it's always on the topic of some secular concern that he's trying to mobilize believers to support.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:58:57 AM EDT
He was born by Muslims.

He was bred by Muslims.

He has been supported by Muslims.

He has supported Muslims.

I've been assured by a number of folks here, that he is somehow, not a Muslim.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:03:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pavlovwolf:
He was born by Muslims.

He was bred by Muslims.

He has been supported by Muslims.

He has supported Muslims.

I've been assured by a number of folks here, that he is somehow, not a Muslim.
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I was born by Christians
I was bred by Christians
I was raised by Christians
I have been (and continue to be) supported by Christians
I have (and continue to) support Christians.

Rest assured however, that I am emphatically not a Christian.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:05:31 PM EDT
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I agree completely.
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Originally Posted By dorobuta:
Black liberation theologist with Islamic roots.

basically America is bad and needs to be punished. Islam is doing bad things because of America.

White people are the debil and all the problems in minority communities are directly the fault of whitey. The same for why ISIS is angry.

read it, learn it, understand dear leader.


I agree completely.


I mostly agree, but would add that a large part of what he worships and appreciates is himself.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:06:28 PM EDT
Precisely......... He is the ultimate opportunist, with allegiance to none but himself....... Why his acolytes can't see this is beyond me


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Originally Posted By Ceddie:
He is a narcissist. He puts his own self worth above even God.

He has the most to prove to the muslims of the world seeking their favor and admiration because the 'Dreams of his Father' didn't really include him.

He hates America and all we represent because America stands in the way of him gaining that what he craves.
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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:08:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
I don't think anyone knows the nitty gritty details of his religious beliefs, including himself.

If he claims to be a Christian, he's a lousy one. If he claims to be a Muslim, he's a lousy one. If he claims to have no belief in a deity at all, he's not even good at that.

He's a politician. Any public statement regarding his faith is suspect by default. Everything that comes out of a politician's mouth is a lie until proven otherwise. You're never going to get his true beliefs. You're only going to hear what he thinks will benefit him politically, or at the very least will not harm him politically.
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That's about as good a summation as it gets really.

I was thinking he's not a Muslim but carries deep sympathy for them because of his father.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:09:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:



he's not a muslim. he's a godless communist.

any favoring muslims he does is because he thinks doing so will damage the current order and speed along it's replacement with his commie wet dream
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:
Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Look at how he protect muslims....brings them in when they are not an asset to America...and does not destroy ISIS.

Obama is a muslim.

The muslim ideology hates America.



he's not a muslim. he's a godless communist.

any favoring muslims he does is because he thinks doing so will damage the current order and speed along it's replacement with his commie wet dream


Don't make the mistake of thinking there are no Godless Communists. There are some. Islamic, Jewish, Hindu and Christian. Communism comes in different flavors of Bull Shit.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:10:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hunterkiller4u:
I love to watch that fucker squirm as i shoved some thick cut bacon into his cum-dumpster.

Ill watch to see if he spits or swallows...THEN ill make my decision.

BACON= Muslim litmus paper
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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:11:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NRA2:
He is a Burger King Christian.............he likes it his way.
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LOL


Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:12:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dorobuta:
Black liberation theologist with Islamic roots.

basically America is bad and needs to be punished. Islam is doing bad things because of America.

White people are the debil and all the problems in minority communities are directly the fault of whitey. The same for why ISIS is angry.

read it, learn it, understand dear leader.
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This.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:12:11 PM EDT
The "church" he went to for 20 years with the racist pastor is not Christian.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:17:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Look at how he protect muslims....brings them in when they are not an asset to America...and does not destroy ISIS.

Obama is a RADICAL muslim.

The muslim ideology hates America.
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FIFY
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:20:41 PM EDT
Still......... I never have.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:21:18 PM EDT
I do not believe he's a Christian.
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