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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:11:15 PM EDT
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I've been thinking about transferring there. Some people I've talked to said they would scoff at a degree from LU because they teach creationism and were founded by Jerry Falwell. Thoughts? I wouldn't.... oh wait I don't take you seriously anyways... or anybody else in GD! 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:14:56 PM EDT
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Is this a new version of U of Phx?
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:16:54 PM EDT
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I think as more and more folks start showing up with on line degrees, they're going to have to take them seriously because they will eventually be way more common than traditional degrees.
For me, it was just about checking a box. Bellevue online here. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:19:01 PM EDT
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Is this a new version of U of Phx? It's an actual school in Lynchburg, Virginia. They also offer online coursework. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:19:43 PM EDT
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It's probably not the best university for some things.. But it depends on what degree you get..
Teaching you will get hired.. Lawyer or dr (they are starting a med school)- not as well respected and hard to find a job.. Imho and based on conversations with other ppl |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:19:47 PM EDT
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I dated a chic from Liberty a while back. She is well respected, earns 150K and shoots better than you
While I would not go to Liberty, I would not scoff at anyone that did. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:20:58 PM EDT
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Isn't Liberty a Christian college? An online program from a brick in mortar school is different than a mass online school.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:20:58 PM EDT
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I think as more and more folks start showing up with on line degrees, they're going to have to take them seriously because they will eventually be way more common than traditional degrees. For me, it was just about checking a box. Bellevue online here. 
I also attended Bellevue University online. I am also enrolled at Liberty, awaiting my first classes to start in January. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:22:19 PM EDT
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My friends 4 kids have gone or are going to Liberty.
The oldest 2 (girl and boy) got job offers before graduation; Nursing and Federal Law Enforcement. The next one to graduate was hired in her field after about 4 months of looking/waiting: Criminal Justice. There are people hiring in all fields that will take a Faith based education as a sign of moral conviction while others look at it as a negative. In the end, it may only get you the interview, you have to close the deal. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:22:26 PM EDT
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My wife got her 4 year from their online program and finished up her masters last December from a local school.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:23:08 PM EDT
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Both sisters went there. Had no trouble finding jobs in marketing. Fully accredited with 1000s of on campus students growing like crazy.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:23:21 PM EDT
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Some employers just want "paper."
Example: The Fed Govt. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:24:54 PM EDT
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That probably depends on the employer.
How do they teach chemistry with a "biblical view"? That might be an issue, maybe not. http://www.liberty.edu/academics/healthsciences/biology-chemistry/index.cfm?PID=28122 |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:25:23 PM EDT
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My friends 4 kids have gone or are going to Liberty. The oldest 2 (girl and boy) got job offers before graduation; Nursing and Federal Law Enforcement. The next one to graduate was hired in her field after about 4 months of looking/waiting: Criminal Justice. There are people hiring in all fields that will take a Faith based education as a sign of moral conviction while others look at it as a negative. In the end, it may only get you the interview, you have to close the deal. Awesome I probably wouldn't want to work for somebody that would view that as a negative anyway. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:26:48 PM EDT
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Liberty University is fully accredited, why wouldn't an employer take a degree from Liberty as seriously as one from Catholic University, or Yeshiva University, or any other school affiliated with a mainstream church?
They have a large number of additional accredited programs, like the law school, which is fully ABA accredited, etc. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:27:12 PM EDT
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I've been thinking about transferring there. Some people I've talked to said they would scoff at a degree from LU because they teach creationism and it was founded by Jerry Falwell. Thoughts? University of LaVerne is the bottom of the shit pile. Then next up, but not by much, is University of Phoenix. The rest start from there. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:31:56 PM EDT
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Look at the catalog from any university, half of the class offerings are a joke.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:35:22 PM EDT
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Liberty University is fully accredited, why wouldn't an employer take a degree from Liberty as seriously as one from Catholic University, or Yeshiva University, or any other school affiliated with a mainstream church? They have a large number of additional accredited programs, like the law school, which is fully ABA accredited, etc. Fully accredited doesn't mean a good education.. I was on an interview panel at work and the quality of the ppl was a huge surprise between schools. Compared to other state universities the liberty grads were not impressive at all.. Your mileage may vary |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:38:13 PM EDT
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Don't know anything about Liberty University, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and assume it's not an unaccredited christian taliban indoctrination camp like Pensacola Christian College.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:38:22 PM EDT
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University of LaVerne is the bottom of the shit pile. Then next up, but not by much, is University of Phoenix. The rest start from there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been thinking about transferring there. Some people I've talked to said they would scoff at a degree from LU because they teach creationism and it was founded by Jerry Falwell. Thoughts? University of LaVerne is the bottom of the shit pile. Then next up, but not by much, is University of Phoenix. The rest start from there. I knew a few folks in the Navy who graduated from LaVerne. Two went to OCS afterward. They all struggled to write at a junior high level. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:38:46 PM EDT
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I've been thinking about transferring there. Some people I've talked to said they would scoff at a degree from LU because they teach creationism and it was founded by Jerry Falwell. Thoughts? As a creationist....meh. What do you want to major in? Is LU's program in that area well-known and well-respected? Judge the program you're interested in on its own merits. Don't look at universities; look at colleges and schools you are interested in within the university. And as a Christian, frankly, I'd just as soon send my kids to a pagan university where they expect to see paganism than to send them to a 'Christian' university where the paganism will be just as prevalent, but disguised. YMMV. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:43:46 PM EDT
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Honestly... no many employers would not consider a degree from Liberty to be at the top of the pile in my opinion. But then again I would be more interested in experience, attitude and motivation.
But having lived in Roanoke for a good number of years I don't think anybody even in the area took Liberty seriously. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:52:31 PM EDT
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My wife has her masters in counseling from there.
$140 an hour. Very nice. One interview. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:54:42 PM EDT
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It's fully accredited. It should be fine.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:55:02 PM EDT
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i imagine that would be degree-dependent. a science degree would be laughable. but other degrees would not be compromised at all--business/accounting, literature, IT, and so forth.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:57:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:59:06 PM EDT
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My wife got her 4 year from their online program and finished up her masters last December from a local school. Serious question: Is she now employed and in a rewarding career associated with her major? |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:59:51 PM EDT
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i imagine that would be degree-dependent. a science degree would be laughable. but other degrees would not be compromised at all--business/accounting, literature, IT, and so forth. That's how I see it. Liberty is not an online diploma mill. They're a serious school but some of the positions they take would make me skeptical of certain programs (if they even offer them). Like Sirensong said-hard sciences or maybe engineering, no. Other programs, sure, I'd consider them. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:00:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:03:05 PM EDT
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I live in the area and can say that LU is a serious school with people literally coming from all over the globe to attend and get a degree.
They pump every cent they earn back into the school. Their campus is growing like mad. There is construction taking place all over the area. They have bought land all around the city and are building on just about every lot or have plans to build on it. They are the real deal. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:04:00 PM EDT
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If I were hiring for scientific position, a Liberty grad would be at the bottom of my list.
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Fully accredited doesn't mean a good education.. I was on an interview panel at work and the quality of the ppl was a huge surprise between schools. Compared to other state universities the liberty grads were not impressive at all.. Your mileage may vary You're right on the dot. For a private school tuition, I'm not sure what a degree from Liberty gets one. It's no academic powerhouse. If your kid can't even get into Radford, there's Liberty. I knew a few families that sent their kids to Liberty... not really high achievers. I had two grads cross my path at a former company. They certainly didn't impress. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:04:09 PM EDT
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Honestly... no many employers would not consider a degree from Liberty to be at the top of the pile in my opinion. But then again I would be more interested in experience, attitude and motivation. But having lived in Roanoke for a good number of years I don't think anybody even in the area took Liberty seriously. Liberty is located in Lynchburg, not Roanoke. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:06:25 PM EDT
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Yes it is respected. Are you doing it online or are you planning on moving down here?
Keep in mind, it's different. I spent a week there for Boys State. Although if was over 20 years ago, not much has changed. I sure couldn't survive there but it's better than Connecticut.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:08:34 PM EDT
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Liberty is located in Lynchburg, not Roanoke. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly... no many employers would not consider a degree from Liberty to be at the top of the pile in my opinion. But then again I would be more interested in experience, attitude and motivation. But having lived in Roanoke for a good number of years I don't think anybody even in the area took Liberty seriously. Liberty is located in Lynchburg, not Roanoke. Yes all of 35-40 minutes away. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:09:25 PM EDT
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Is this a new version of U of Phx? No it is a actual brick and mortar school |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:10:24 PM EDT
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One of the things Liberty does well is aviation. I also know that their business program is solid- not great but better than other places.
If you went to Radford, you'll be in my neck of the woods
my wife will graduate from there with an MBA. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:10:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's fully accredited. It should be fine. I noticed that they don't offer an Anthropology degree... |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:11:02 PM EDT
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You have got to be kidding.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:12:10 PM EDT
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Yes it is respected. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but in what circles is it respected? I assume that Liberty has its own form of networking value within the evangelical community. I get that. But as far as employers in general taking it seriously, it's not great. A Liberty degree is seen as a stamp reading, "Too Dumb for Radford." |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:13:07 PM EDT
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Yes it is respected. Are you doing it online or are you planning on moving down here? Keep in mind, it's different. I spent a week there for Boys State. Although if was over 20 years ago, not much has changed. I sure couldn't survive there but it's better than Connecticut. I'm open to both, but I'm thinking of doing the online program so I can spend more time working. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:13:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the things Liberty does well is aviation. that's actually a scientific field that i don't think would be harmed by the creationism thing. applied science like that carries on fairly independently of the other stuff.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:14:53 PM EDT
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Look at the program and see if they'll be teaching you what you want to learn. Your value is determined by your attitude, experience and skill.
That said, I have a number of friends who have attended there, and I'm impressed with what I've heard. Like others have said, they are growing like crazy. For fields that require an accreditation, that (accreditation) is often the benchmark by which programs are measured. Example: if your engineering school has an ABET accreditation, unless you went to MIT or something similar, it doesn't really matter where you went to school so much as it does whether or not you're worth your salt. Even if you went to MIT, you need to be able to perform. After your first professional job, people won't care where you went to school. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:14:58 PM EDT
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Liberty University degrees are very respected.
On-line degrees, in any way, shape or form, not so much. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm open to both, but I'm thinking of doing the online program so I can spend more time working. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes it is respected. Are you doing it online or are you planning on moving down here? Keep in mind, it's different. I spent a week there for Boys State. Although if was over 20 years ago, not much has changed. I sure couldn't survive there but it's better than Connecticut. I'm open to both, but I'm thinking of doing the online program so I can spend more time working. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:15:55 PM EDT
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What is the best university that has an online degree than? I know it all depends upon the degree you choose, but there has to be a university that stands about the rest in regards to quality education and respectability.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:16:13 PM EDT
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I've been thinking about transferring there. Some people I've talked to said they would scoff at a degree from LU because they teach creationism and it was founded by Jerry Falwell. Thoughts? they would never get an interview with me. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:17:06 PM EDT
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that's actually a scientific field that i don't think would be harmed by the creationism thing. applied science like that carries on fairly independently of the other stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One of the things Liberty does well is aviation. that's actually a scientific field that i don't think would be harmed by the creationism thing. applied science like that carries on fairly independently of the other stuff. What is jet fuel made out of? Where do we obtain most of our hyrdocarbons? And what was the process of their formation?
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:18:00 PM EDT
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they would never get an interview with me. What career field, and why not? |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:19:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: they would never get an interview with me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've been thinking about transferring there. Some people I've talked to said they would scoff at a degree from LU because they teach creationism and it was founded by Jerry Falwell. Thoughts? they would never get an interview with me. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:20:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What career field, and why not? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: they would never get an interview with me. What career field, and why not? Why not? He's a liberal. Who hangs around here for some reason.
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