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Posted: 8/26/2022 3:17:07 PM EDT
read below i guess :( don't buy any solvent trap or components get rid of it all or the boat thing..
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Not sure what you mean by this? I have a family am a father and it was coop or 40+ years. View Quote |
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Quoted: Nick Logan here Convicted Customer Service Rep for DM. I was convicted of Conspiracy to Manufacturer Firearms and Deal in Firearms without a license. Two things: ATF and DOJ AUSA'S consider solvent traps silencers based on my testimony. View Quote So it was cool working for a company that was trying to sell a legal product in accordance with the law that poked the bear but once the man came at you you became their snitch? Thanks for your service to our ATF overlords I guess. I can't explain until limitations expire on how that came to be please read between the lines.. 5 years.. I almost fell on my own sword for our cause but I had the forethought to see if I did it would have been for nothing. I also about killed myself too this has been a really hard road. They are willing to break all the rules/law and not play by them to win. Two: ATF lead agent told me" At least we didn't shoot your dog". I have a family am a father and it was coop or 40+ years. No one at my company knew or thought this was illegal but according to "them" it is. There was no need for an armed SWAT team in the highest level body armor they have to enter my home like they did. I took the remote job a part-time job. I'm IT. 3 years probation with an 18-month sentence so if I'm violated I get 5 years. I'm a family man I have children and a wife. We are normal people! I'm on probation and have to be careful what I say so I hope you all understand. Solvent Traps, FRT triggers ect anyone who owns them and they have DOCUMENTED evidence that you do via credit card,money orders ect they will come after you. Please don't have them at your house like I did thinking they were legal... #Extortion View Quote |
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I’m genuinely sorry for what happened to you. Hopefully I’m in before the people who think you deserved it. |
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What is this? Some kind of scare tactic?
Let them come. I hope they send family men. |
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I feel like this post is probably just going to make your life more difficult, but thanks for taking the time to share your side of the story and for giving a warning to others. Sorry you had to go through all that.
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I almost posted something more harsh, but didn't. "May your chains rest lightly..." is one thing, except your testimony dumped chains on the rest of us too. Which is quite detailed and enthusiastic testimony for a stay-at-home CSR that never touched the product. Hopefully better legal minds than you or I can use the Bruen ruling to attack the 2A side of this, and the EPA ruling to attack the administrative side of this.
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Here's how the system worked for me. Couldn't afford a real attorney besides my father who is one but not federal and out of state and on his advice got a Federal public defender who on my first contact call with him told me I'm guilty.. Agreed to all that ASUS wanted.. I was on pretrial probation release. with my house as collateral $10000 bond. Your basicly on probation without being on probation they won't call it that but you gotta report. I didn't know this until I had to do it such BS basically convicted before being convicted.. Outcome 50% reduction in sentence for cooperation no prison time and can move on with my life if I complete my probation with no violations(which can be made hard if you have someone who may want you to fail)
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Quoted: I feel like this post is probably just going to make your life more difficult, but thanks for taking the time to share your side of the story and for giving a warning to others. Sorry you had to go through all that. View Quote If he's already sentenced talking about it won't hurt unless there is some specific gag order.... That being said everyone here now hates him. Wish he could have got a real lawyer so he didn't get railroaded so hard. |
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"Highest level body armor they have."
The only thing I read between the lines is you gave up hundreds of thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens to cut a deal. |
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Quoted: Two things: ATF and DOJ AUSA'S consider solvent traps silencers based on my testimony. View Quote |
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"ATF and DOJ AUSA'S consider solvent traps silencers based on my testimony. "
They can "consider" all they want but it it the legislation that matters. Has any owner of a solvent trap ( un-modified ) been convicted of possession of a silencer ? Regarding your testimony - if you admitted INTENT to commit an offense relating to silencers - I cannot help you. But your intent does nothing to show the intent of anybody else in possession of a solvent trap. |
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I don't care how I look anymore. If I did I sure wouldn't post on it. I don't like what happened at all. nuff said I guess I could go on and on but without being able to tell my whole story everyone will always think I'm benedict arnold
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Quoted: Nick Logan here Convicted Customer Service Rep for DM. I was convicted of Conspiracy to Manufacturer Firearms and Deal in Firearms without a license. Two things: ATF and DOJ AUSA'S consider solvent traps silencers based on my testimony. I can't explain until limitations expire on how that came to be please read between the lines.. 5 years.. I almost fell on my own sword for our cause but I had the forethought to see if I did it would have been for nothing. I also about killed myself too this has been a really hard road. They are willing to break all the rules/law and not play by them to win. Two: ATF lead agent told me" At least we didn't shoot your dog". I have a family am a father and it was coop or 40+ years. No one at my company knew or thought this was illegal but according to "them" it is. There was no need for an armed SWAT team in the highest level body armor they have to enter my home like they did. I took the remote job a part-time job. I'm IT. 3 years probation with an 18-month sentence so if I'm violated I get 5 years. I'm a family man I have children and a wife. We are normal people! I'm on probation and have to be careful what I say so I hope you all understand. Solvent Traps, FRT triggers ect anyone who owns them and they have DOCUMENTED evidence that you do via credit card,money orders ect they will come after you. Please don't have them at your house like I did thinking they were legal... I ONLY WORKED FOR DM FOR 3 MONTHS in 2019.. They were open since 2017 with website. My raid took place May of 2021 #Extortion View Quote |
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This was just posted in the other thread about DM..
BREAKING: ATF caught on video harassing innocent American |
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Youre gunna get a lot of hate based on the way you worded the above
That said I remember when it was unfolding and you were posting in the Diversified thread Seems like you got shafted pretty good over it all. Hate that for you man |
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Quoted: I don't care how I look anymore. If I did I sure wouldn't post on it. I don't like what happened at all. nuff said I guess I could go on and on but without being able to tell my whole story everyone will always think I'm benedict arnold View Quote How many people were convicted? How many people took a deal? |
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Yes I typed something up in reply to that also. I wanted to be clear to help people NOT get into the situation I got into. We sold over 5000 of them. 1.2 million worth
Quoted: This was just posted in the other thread about DM.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr40Rj-9epI View Quote |
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Nick,
Sorry the federal government thugs put you through this shit. It could have been any of us and I think in the near future it will be a lot more of us. I’m sure if we saw and heard everything you said or did regarding this event most would point out things you shouldn’t have done or done differently. But we weren’t the ones actually there facing the actual real threat, with actual real consequences. It’s a lot easier reading this on your couch. |
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Pete this is TOTALLY it.. I Was with the crowd before..
Quoted: Nick, Sorry the federal government thugs put you through this shit. It could have been any of us and I think in the near future it will be a lot more of us. I’m sure if we saw and heard everything you said or did regarding this event most would point out things you shouldn’t have done or done differently. But we weren’t the ones actually there facing the actual real threat, with actual real consequences. It’s a lot easier reading this on your couch. View Quote |
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Fellow codefendant Nick Logan served as Diversified Machine’s customer support, receiving emails from customers, the document states. Ridenour and Logan referred to their kits as “solvent traps” to hopefully avoid law enforcement’s detection, the document states. “Diversified Machine business was an online business only; Ridenour shipped silencer kits and parts to customers nationwide,” the agreement states. View Quote https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2022/05/michigan-man-pleads-to-federal-crime-of-selling-1-million-in-illegal-gun-silencers-online.html |
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I'm sorry to hear this.
But not sure what Electroconvulsive Therapy has to do with it? You mentioned it a couple times. |
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Ok so good lucky with the rest of the thread and feel free to flame me.. I know I DID for a long time standing up on a bucket with a noose around my own neck in my garage.
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I thought there was something about oil filters being considered "silencers". What makes a solvent trap so dangerous compared to an oil filter?
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Eventually the ATF is going to fuck around again with the wrong person, and find out. Like Waco. Except they might not be facing religious fanatics with no training composed mostly of women and children.
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"Two things: ATF and DOJ AUSA'S consider solvent traps silencers based on my testimony"
So you're the one to blame for the ATF's BS with form 1s? |
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