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Posted: 5/24/2005 4:51:25 PM EDT
Thanks

CRC
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:52:34 PM EDT
Oh hell yes.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:52:49 PM EDT
I believe they made M38 Mauser carbines under contract.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:53:33 PM EDT
yes...now go do your homework.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:54:29 PM EDT
Still do don't they?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:57:56 PM EDT
Yup.....got a 30.06 bolt action that my dad bought in the mid 60's. Has a beautiful checkered bolt and the action is smoooooth.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:00:35 PM EDT
I just looked on google and appeared they stopped making guns in 1989 but they did.

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:11:23 PM EDT
They make a hell of a weed whacker

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:16:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Scott574:
Yup.....got a 30.06 bolt action that my dad bought in the mid 60's. Has a beautiful checkered bolt and the action is smoooooth.



I got to shoot one of those a friend had. Some nameless someone put a Redfield receiver sight on it, did a good job of it too, made for a nice rifle. Loads of fun to shoot.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:21:56 PM EDT
And shotguns too. Take a look at their logo...


See a shotgun anywhere?

TC

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:22:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Still do don't they?



No

www.usa.husqvarna.com/?url=%2Fnode1341%2Easp%3Fframes%3Dfalse
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:23:43 PM EDT
They make a damn fine sewing machine, in case any of you were considering sewing as a hobby.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:00:38 PM EDT
I have an 1872 Husky Rolling block.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:02:26 PM EDT
They made some NICE bolt-action hunting rifles......
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:04:42 PM EDT
I was pretty sure that the SMG I was issued in the Danish army was Husqvarna manufacture, but the more I think about it, the more I think it might have been built by Hovea.

The gun is similar to the Swedish M45B, but slightly different.

Anyone know if they ever built submachineguns?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:10:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:12:50 PM EDT
They did do a significant amount of M38 production. Though more than adequate, Husqvarna guns don't seem to have the same finish quality of Carl Gustav guns. They also produced Lahti M40 pistols, but these were inferior to the Finnish M35s (almost the same pistol). The steel Husqvarna used was only good enough for standard 9mms. When they started using SMG 9mm, the guns started to crack frames, and were withdrawn from service. They actually re-adopted the Colt 1903 (made by Husqvarna) chambered for 9mm Browning Long.

Other than the Soviets withdrawl of the SVT 40 Sniper from sniping service in favor of re-instituting the 91/30 Sniper, I'm not sure there was another retro acceptance of a prior firearm.

As far as commercial guns go, who cares?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:22:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I was pretty sure that the SMG I was issued in the Danish army was Husqvarna manufacture, but the more I think about it, the more I think it might have been built by Hovea.

The gun is similar to the Swedish M45B, but slightly different.

Anyone know if they ever built submachineguns?



According to my ref book (Small Arms Of The World) the Danish M1949 "Hovea" burpgun was developed by Husqvarna....

The Swede M1940 Lahti pistol was built by Husqvarna Vapenfabrik (acc to the same book).
IIRC the Swedish 7.5mm Nagant revolvers were made by them.
It appears Husky made some of the Swede H&K G3 rifles also.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:24:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I was pretty sure that the SMG I was issued in the Danish army was Husqvarna manufacture, but the more I think about it, the more I think it might have been built by Hovea.

The gun is similar to the Swedish M45B, but slightly different.

Anyone know if they ever built submachineguns?



According to my ref book (Small Arms Of The World) the Danish M1949 "Hovea" burpgun was developed by Husqvarna....



That's the one! Thanks.

So I guess it's kind of BOTH Hovea and Husqvarna My memory isn't so bad after all.


Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:24:44 PM EDT
Yep, have a Husky .30-06 myself. Obscenely accurate rifle ....for three rounds. Skinny barrel heats up fast.

Nick
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:28:31 PM EDT
Also made motorcycles, the moto-cross bike that Vin Diesel rode in "XXX" was a
Husqvarna.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:29:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I was pretty sure that the SMG I was issued in the Danish army was Husqvarna manufacture, but the more I think about it, the more I think it might have been built by Hovea.

The gun is similar to the Swedish M45B, but slightly different.

Anyone know if they ever built submachineguns?



According to my ref book (Small Arms Of The World) the Danish M1949 "Hovea" burpgun was developed by Husqvarna....



That's the one! Thanks.

So I guess it's kind of BOTH Hovea and Husqvarna My memory isn't so bad after all.





For the gun geek (The Hovea is a version of the Swedish K(45):

K-pist is short for "Kulsprutepistol" roughly translated as "Bullet spurting pistol". This SMG were developed by Swedish state-owned Carl Gustaf Arms company (located in Eskilstuna) in 1945 and were manufactured at a very low cost per weapon (60 SEK = $5, per gun) mostly due to modern factoring methods and by using stamped steel. The construction is based upon features taken from the Finnish "Tikkakoski "Suomi" m/31" (amongst other features - the barrel, the magazine cath and guide is taken from the "Kpist m/37-39"), the Brittish "STEN-gun" (amongst other features - the principle for the cocking mechanism) and the German "MP-40". It is still in service with some parts of the Swedish defence (as a secondary issue weapon, as a personal weapon for the crew abord the Navys ships and to some personnel within Hemvärnet ["Home Defence" = Swedish National Guard]). About 300 000 have been manufactured for the Swedish Defence (todays manufacturing cost ca: 700 SEK).
The B version was introduced in 1954. In 1955 the black oxide coating (Parkerized = manganese phosphate coated) was abounded and new weapons received a coat of green paint. When a weapon had lost more than 50% of the finish it was sent to an armoury to be repainted. After 1955 some guns were up graded to the B standard. This means that there are just a few m/45B in black matte finish, and even fewer green m/45. When the m/45 was introduced there was a shortage of the 36-round staggered-row magazine. To make the weapon compatible with the 50-round double-row magazine for the "Kpist m/37-39", the magazine well of the m/45 was detachable. To use the m/37-39 magazine one relesed the hope that held the magazine well and pulled out the magazine well it self. The 50-round magazine was then used whithout a magazine well. The disadvantage with the m/37-39 magazine was that it required a magazinefeeding device, if this device weren´t used the feeding from the magazine could cause a malfunction. As soon as the supply of 36-round magazines was sufficient, the magazine well of the m/45 was riveted to the receiver.

The M/45B appeared with fixed magazine housings, a reenforced breechhousing plate and a lighter recoil spring. The later two features were introduced to problems originating from using the "gallery ammunition" (also known as the "chamber practise round") - evidently the breechhouse plate could come loose at usage of this particular cartridge. The B-version have also holes of a smaller diamater in the barrel casing, and they are located closer to the muzzle. As a final touch the magazines were remodeled. The first type is recognised by that the bottom of the magazine is held in place by a plate spring.

M45/C is pretty much the same as the M45/B but has a bayonet lug on the barrel casing for the m/14 bayonet. The C-version was primaly used in parades, by Swedish UN-troops during the 1950-60s and by the Royal Castle Guards.

Copies of the "M45" were made under license in Egypt, known as "Port Said", and saw extensive use against the Israeli army during the conflicts between those two nations in the late sixties and early seventies. Hereby the Israeli nation also came by some of these weapons. During the 1960:s an unknown amounts of m/45B:s were sent off to Vietnam with the US. military, both in standard configuration and fitted with sound suppressing barrels. These weapons lacked id-number to avoid public opinion in Sweden (protests against Sweden as a deliverer of weaponry to conflict areas have always been a hardcore issue in Swedish politcs). The weapon proved itself and performed well in the jungle (the heavy 9mm bullet didn't diviate in the bullet trajectory as much as the lighter 5,56mm when flying through the thick vegetation. An interesting detail is that with the weapons came the same magazine pouch made of leather as the Swedish Army used. At some point, the Swedish government stopped exporting them for political reasons. As a result, and to fulfill a still evident need, Smith & Wesson developed their "model 76", which is loosely based on the m/45 (according to rumor the M76 can use the same magazine as the m/45). Later, the M76 were copied in it's turn by MK Arms of USA under the designation of "Mk760" (available in both 9x19mm Parabellum and .45 ACP). There is a similar weapon developed by Husqvarna in a competition against FFV, the "Kpist fm/44". It was later sold to Denmark who adopted it as the "Maskinpistol 9 mm - m/49", commonly known as the "Hovea" ("Hovea" is the Danish way of pronouncing "HVA" which means "Husqvarnas Vapenfabriks AB").

The suppresed versions were also by rumor used in Sweden by Kustjägarna (Coastal Rangers), the Attack Divers and most likely the Fallskärmsjägarna (Paratroopers) although this have been denied by the Swedish government at several occations since at that time it wouldn´t have been political correct for the swedish soldier to carry such a weapon.

The m/45 is a HIGHLY reliable weapon and will operate under extreme conditions such as arctic cold and desert heat. Much of it's reliability is due to the design of the magazines, and it's been reported to have kept firing thought it had dirt and mudd in the operating mechanism. (According to an oral legend amongst soldiers that have served in the Swedish Defence Forces, You can soak your m/45 in mudd - clean it by rincing it a pudle of water - then keep firing).
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:37:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 6:42:22 PM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I was pretty sure that the SMG I was issued in the Danish army was Husqvarna manufacture, but the more I think about it, the more I think it might have been built by Hovea.

The gun is similar to the Swedish M45B, but slightly different.

Anyone know if they ever built submachineguns?



According to my ref book (Small Arms Of The World) the Danish M1949 "Hovea" burpgun was developed by Husqvarna....



That's the one! Thanks.

So I guess it's kind of BOTH Hovea and Husqvarna My memory isn't so bad after all.





For the gun geek (The Hovea is a version of the Swedish K(45):

K-pist is short for "Kulsprutepistol" roughly translated as "Bullet spurting pistol". This SMG were developed by Swedish state-owned Carl Gustaf Arms company (located in Eskilstuna) in 1945 and were manufactured at a very low cost per weapon (60 SEK = $5, per gun) mostly due to modern factoring methods and by using stamped steel. The construction is based upon features taken from the Finnish "Tikkakoski "Suomi" m/31" (amongst other features - the barrel, the magazine cath and guide is taken from the "Kpist m/37-39"), the Brittish "STEN-gun" (amongst other features - the principle for the cocking mechanism) and the German "MP-40". It is still in service with some parts of the Swedish defence (as a secondary issue weapon, as a personal weapon for the crew abord the Navys ships and to some personnel within Hemvärnet ["Home Defence" = Swedish National Guard]). About 300 000 have been manufactured for the Swedish Defence (todays manufacturing cost ca: 700 SEK).
The B version was introduced in 1954. In 1955 the black oxide coating (Parkerized = manganese phosphate coated) was abounded and new weapons received a coat of green paint. When a weapon had lost more than 50% of the finish it was sent to an armoury to be repainted. After 1955 some guns were up graded to the B standard. This means that there are just a few m/45B in black matte finish, and even fewer green m/45. When the m/45 was introduced there was a shortage of the 36-round staggered-row magazine. To make the weapon compatible with the 50-round double-row magazine for the "Kpist m/37-39", the magazine well of the m/45 was detachable. To use the m/37-39 magazine one relesed the hope that held the magazine well and pulled out the magazine well it self. The 50-round magazine was then used whithout a magazine well. The disadvantage with the m/37-39 magazine was that it required a magazinefeeding device, if this device weren´t used the feeding from the magazine could cause a malfunction. As soon as the supply of 36-round magazines was sufficient, the magazine well of the m/45 was riveted to the receiver.

The M/45B appeared with fixed magazine housings, a reenforced breechhousing plate and a lighter recoil spring. The later two features were introduced to problems originating from using the "gallery ammunition" (also known as the "chamber practise round") - evidently the breechhouse plate could come loose at usage of this particular cartridge. The B-version have also holes of a smaller diamater in the barrel casing, and they are located closer to the muzzle. As a final touch the magazines were remodeled. The first type is recognised by that the bottom of the magazine is held in place by a plate spring.

M45/C is pretty much the same as the M45/B but has a bayonet lug on the barrel casing for the m/14 bayonet. The C-version was primaly used in parades, by Swedish UN-troops during the 1950-60s and by the Royal Castle Guards.

Copies of the "M45" were made under license in Egypt, known as "Port Said", and saw extensive use against the Israeli army during the conflicts between those two nations in the late sixties and early seventies. Hereby the Israeli nation also came by some of these weapons. During the 1960:s an unknown amounts of m/45B:s were sent off to Vietnam with the US. military, both in standard configuration and fitted with sound suppressing barrels. These weapons lacked id-number to avoid public opinion in Sweden (protests against Sweden as a deliverer of weaponry to conflict areas have always been a hardcore issue in Swedish politcs). The weapon proved itself and performed well in the jungle (the heavy 9mm bullet didn't diviate in the bullet trajectory as much as the lighter 5,56mm when flying through the thick vegetation. An interesting detail is that with the weapons came the same magazine pouch made of leather as the Swedish Army used. At some point, the Swedish government stopped exporting them for political reasons. As a result, and to fulfill a still evident need, Smith & Wesson developed their "model 76", which is loosely based on the m/45 (according to rumor the M76 can use the same magazine as the m/45). Later, the M76 were copied in it's turn by MK Arms of USA under the designation of "Mk760" (available in both 9x19mm Parabellum and .45 ACP). There is a similar weapon developed by Husqvarna in a competition against FFV, the "Kpist fm/44". It was later sold to Denmark who adopted it as the "Maskinpistol 9 mm - m/49", commonly known as the "Hovea" ("Hovea" is the Danish way of pronouncing "HVA" which means "Husqvarnas Vapenfabriks AB").

The suppresed versions were also by rumor used in Sweden by Kustjägarna (Coastal Rangers), the Attack Divers and most likely the Fallskärmsjägarna (Paratroopers) although this have been denied by the Swedish government at several occations since at that time it wouldn´t have been political correct for the swedish soldier to carry such a weapon.

The m/45 is a HIGHLY reliable weapon and will operate under extreme conditions such as arctic cold and desert heat. Much of it's reliability is due to the design of the magazines, and it's been reported to have kept firing thought it had dirt and mudd in the operating mechanism. (According to an oral legend amongst soldiers that have served in the Swedish Defence Forces, You can soak your m/45 in mudd - clean it by rincing it a pudle of water - then keep firing).



There's a pic of an M45B over at guns.ru:

world.guns.ru/smg/smg48-e.htm

It really is a sweet gun. A friend of mine in Sweden owned two (illegally), and they were a blast!

The Hovea (m49) version that was used in Denmark is VERY similar, but with one or two minor cosmetic differences. I guess the differences are just the Husqvarna version of the Carl Gustav. (ironically, the Danes developed their own SMG - the Madsen, but didn't adopt it). I cannot find a picture of the Hovea. Either the intenet has failed, or my Google-Fu is weak.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:42:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
The Hovea (m49) version that was used in Denmark is VERY similar, but with one or two minor cosmetic differences. (ironically, the Danes developed their own SMG - the Madsen, but didn't adopt it). I cannot find a picture of the Hovea. Either the intenet has failed, or my Google-Fu is weak.



click on the M49 in the history section.

www.bellum.nu/armoury/CGm45.html
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:47:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 6:48:07 PM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
The Hovea (m49) version that was used in Denmark is VERY similar, but with one or two minor cosmetic differences. (ironically, the Danes developed their own SMG - the Madsen, but didn't adopt it). I cannot find a picture of the Hovea. Either the intenet has failed, or my Google-Fu is weak.



click on the M49 in the history section.

www.bellum.nu/armoury/CGm45.html




SWEET. There it is! I wish I could have kept that, instead of the boots and unifrom.

That gun would run like a raped ape if you doubled up the recoil springs, or -even better - put an MG-42/59 recoil spring in it!! I estimate around 1000 rpm, easy.

Good times.




Thanks - you are a master at the internet!
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:48:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
There's a pic of an M45B over at guns.ru:

world.guns.ru/smg/smg48-e.htm

It really is a sweet gun. A friend of mine in Sweden owned two (illegally), and they were a blast!

The Hovea (m49) version that was used in Denmark is VERY similar, but with one or two minor cosmetic differences. (ironically, the Danes developed their own SMG - the Madsen, but didn't adopt it). I cannot find a picture of the Hovea. Either the intenet has failed, or my Google-Fu is weak.



I wonder why they went with a Swede design over the homebrewed clamshell Madsen?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:50:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 6:50:54 PM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
There's a pic of an M45B over at guns.ru:

world.guns.ru/smg/smg48-e.htm

It really is a sweet gun. A friend of mine in Sweden owned two (illegally), and they were a blast!

The Hovea (m49) version that was used in Denmark is VERY similar, but with one or two minor cosmetic differences. (ironically, the Danes developed their own SMG - the Madsen, but didn't adopt it). I cannot find a picture of the Hovea. Either the intenet has failed, or my Google-Fu is weak.



I wonder why they went with a Swede design over the homebrewed clamshell Madsen?




Considering our pathological and rabid hatred for the Swedes, I am very surprised by that myself.

I think the Hovea design was just a lot better than the Madsen. I get the impression that the Madsen might have been good for police work, but maybe not quite rugged enough for rough military application. The Hovea was completely indestructible and super-reliable. (That said, I've never fired, or even held, a Madsen)
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:50:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Thanks - you are a master at the internet!



I'd rather be lucky than good any day. All I did was google "Hovea" and after reading the history, noticed the photo link.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:50:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SP1Grrl:
They make a damn fine sewing machine, in case any of you were considering sewing as a hobby.



Yes, yes they do.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:59:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
Thanks

CRC



Yep. Here's one. A 1943 Husqvarna M38 Cavalry Carbine. (for sale btw)



Link Posted: 5/24/2005 8:00:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 8:04:46 PM EDT by DK-Prof]
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Link Posted: 5/25/2005 12:27:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
There's a pic of an M45B over at guns.ru:

world.guns.ru/smg/smg48-e.htm

It really is a sweet gun. A friend of mine in Sweden owned two (illegally), and they were a blast!

The Hovea (m49) version that was used in Denmark is VERY similar, but with one or two minor cosmetic differences. (ironically, the Danes developed their own SMG - the Madsen, but didn't adopt it). I cannot find a picture of the Hovea. Either the intenet has failed, or my Google-Fu is weak.



I wonder why they went with a Swede design over the homebrewed clamshell Madsen?




Considering our pathological and rabid hatred for the Swedes, I am very surprised by that myself.

I think the Hovea design was just a lot better than the Madsen. I get the impression that the Madsen might have been good for police work, but maybe not quite rugged enough for rough military application. The Hovea was completely indestructible and super-reliable. (That said, I've never fired, or even held, a Madsen)



It was good enuff for the Gorilla Army........ The burpguns used in the original Planet Of The Apes movies were Madsens in a funky fiberglass shell. Also used in the "Our Man Flint" spy movies with James Coburn.
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