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Posted: 8/13/2011 8:39:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2011 11:05:52 AM EDT by NAKED-GUNMAN]
I don't think so and when Mr. Perry announces in about a half an hour, wearing a dark suit and red tie "I am guessing", he will ask you and the rest of the nation the same thing.

What good has happened to the middle class? Is (sic) our chillren learning? How is your 401k? Does unemployment bother you? Do you think the President has lived up to his promises from almost 3 years ago? Do you think the current President is working effectively with congress? The unemployment rate is almost 10% and climbing, do you think the policies of President Obama are bringing that number down or is it going up?

The price of oil and gas have steadily risen since 2008, do you think the President has addressed this issue properly?

Are we a nation more divided or more unified since 2008?

Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?



Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:41:08 AM EDT
Actually I am. No thanks to obummer.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:43:11 AM EDT
Fuck no!
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:45:32 AM EDT
Personally, I am...directly as a result of the choices I've made and the actions I have taken.

That said...I'd imagine that if you put up a national poll, and people were genuinely honest, the overwhelming response would be that they were either the same or worse off than they were four years ago.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:45:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cptx123:
Actually I am. No thanks to obummer.


I might need to preface the statement as saying as a nation..not just individually, hence the "more divided" sentence.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:45:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2011 8:47:30 AM EDT by Strider47]
No. I make less, work more, my health insurance is more expensive and I get less coverage, everything is more expensive and as result I have less to give others - financially and emotionally.

Edit - as a nation? Do you even need to ask?
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:46:16 AM EDT
I'm tons better......but a whole year of my income over the last 4 was because a client had to cancel every major project they had planned, except the one I did for them. In a better economy, they might have skipped over my project.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:47:21 AM EDT
No. It takes alot more of my take home just to maintain my life style, and it is far from extravagant.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:47:24 AM EDT
The nation is worse off, but in a strange coincidence, I'm actually better off as an individual.

n=1
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:50:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Subnet:
The nation is worse off, but in a strange coincidence, I'm actually better off as an individual.

n=1


This is me as well.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:50:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
I'm tons better......but a whole year of my income over the last 4 was because a client had to cancel every major project they had planned, except the one I did for them. In a better economy, they might have skipped over my project.


As a nation...does that change for you? Are you confident that in the future, such fortune will fall in your lap?
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:51:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:
The nation is worse off, but in a strange coincidence, I'm actually better off as an individual.

n=1

I noticed you seem a bit nicer over the last year or so.

As a nation..I think we all know whats up.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:53:07 AM EDT
I'm better off in spite of Obama, not because of him.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:54:06 AM EDT
i make the same amount and it doesn't go as far

but i've got more guns than a year ago, so i've got that going for me...
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:54:42 AM EDT
Aside from my son being born into this world and owning a motorcycle finally, no actually. I'm worse off than four years ago.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 8:59:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:01:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cptx123:
Actually I am. No thanks to obummer.

This
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:03:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
I'm better off in spite of Obama, not because of him.

Yep, it pays to go against the grain!
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:04:35 AM EDT
Nope. Four years ago I was doing way better, as were the companies around me.

I've been unemployed for the last 6 weeks and while there are no shortage of companies and agencies interested in me, despite their workload and how much they could use a guy like me, their higher-ups will not approve opening the reqs.

So, I'm getting stuff done around the house.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:05:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cptx123:
Actually I am. No thanks to obummer.


Exactly. I'm doing far better than I ever have. I can attribute it to personal choices made with advice from a financial adviser. If Obama wasn't in office, I'd be doing even better.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:07:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
Nope. Four years ago I was doing way better, as were the companies around me.

I've been unemployed for the last 6 weeks and while there are no shortage of companies and agencies interested in me, despite their workload and how much they could use a guy like me, their higher-ups will not approve opening the reqs.

So, I'm getting stuff done around the house.

I didn't know this. I'm sorry, man.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:13:33 AM EDT
I am not better off. I just took a pay cut but at least still have a job. Inflation is grinding me and I have a huge sense of overall unease with the international, national, and to some extent local situation. It is my prayer O will be turned out of office, his health take over will be overturned, and that will signal the beginning of things getting better for everyone.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:15:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cptx123:
Actually I am. No thanks to obummer.


Same here.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:16:23 AM EDT
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:16:39 AM EDT
I would say I am better off than I was 4 years ago.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:17:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:19:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.


Yeah, but I don't see anyone better.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:21:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.

I'm sitting here watching it, and I noticed the same thing. Interesting.

His public speaking skills are a little better, though. A little.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:21:50 AM EDT
I am definitely worse off, through no actions of my own.
But, I do have a much better gun collection now.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:22:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.

I'm sitting here watching it, and I noticed the same thing. Interesting.

His public speaking skills are a little better, though. A little.


farty percent.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:22:55 AM EDT
Are you fucking kidding me?

The Ultimate Rhetorical question.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:24:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.


I understand him..but remember he is in Carolina.

I think his aww shucks persona will fair well with those who have been ignored the last few years. I hope he will take a better command of king's english. His down home appeal will help..his pro-American stance as well.

It's a year and half out...he will have to go from state to state to win people based on his ability to communicate.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:24:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By redfish86:
Are you fucking kidding me?

The Ultimate Rhetorical question.


Most of the people here have said yes. Though we sure as hell don't represent the average.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:26:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.

I'm sitting here watching it, and I noticed the same thing. Interesting.

His public speaking skills are a little better, though. A little.


I agree with that..it seems he is pretty smart and savvy on who he talks to. Almost like Clinton, squinting his eyes and with a southern drawl..."I feel your pain and if elected."
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:27:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redfish86:
Are you fucking kidding me?

The Ultimate Rhetorical question.

Yes it is..and Ronaldus Magnus made it a part of our lexicon. I think it is a legit question to ask ourselves as a nation today.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:28:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2011 9:29:11 AM EDT by webtaz99]
NVM.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:28:46 AM EDT
He is doing well imo...he just hit Obamacare. Nice.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:29:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.


I understand him..but remember he is in Carolina.

I think his aww shucks persona will fair well with those who have been ignored the last few years. I hope he will take a better command of king's english. His down home appeal will help..his pro-American stance as well.

It's a year and half out...he will have to go from state to state to win people based on his ability to communicate.
His diction is actually similar to that of a mega-church pastor, during a sermon - things like softening your tone and trailing your voice off at the end of a sentence, and raising it about mid way.

I'm kind of a geek, when it comes to language.

Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:29:43 AM EDT
Declared he wants to repeal Obamacare. That is what I want to hear. He is saying everything I want to hear.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:30:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2011 9:32:01 AM EDT by Mauritius]
Because I got fucked in the ass by Katrina in 05 I would have to say yes. It took me years to recover.

Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:30:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
Mr. Perry is announcing...and we're off!

God it's amazing how much he sounds like W, accent-wise.


I understand him..but remember he is in Carolina.

I think his aww shucks persona will fair well with those who have been ignored the last few years. I hope he will take a better command of king's english. His down home appeal will help..his pro-American stance as well.

It's a year and half out...he will have to go from state to state to win people based on his ability to communicate.
His diction is actually similar to that of a mega-church pastor, during a sermon - things like softening your tone and trailing your voice off at the end of a sentence, and raising it about mid way.

I'm kind of a geek, when it comes to language.



Then you would enjoy my sunday morning sermons..maybe. A couple of other members tell me I talk that way on sundays.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:31:36 AM EDT
Personally I'm doing a lot better. Better pay, better benefits, better house. Gun collection is moving along steadily and we still have money for vacations, eating out, etc. I'm sure I'd be even more prosperous had Ron Paul won the last election.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:31:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
Declared he wants to repeal Obamacare. That is what I want to hear. He is saying everything I want to hear.


Soundbite heaven for the meat eaters..he did'nt yell or bash Obama, he just slowly showed him the pink slip.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:32:22 AM EDT
I'm better off personally, but not financially. Obama has nothing to do with the former, but a smidge to do with the latter.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:33:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MikeEIB:
Personally I'm doing a lot better. Better pay, better benefits, better house. Gun collection is moving along steadily and we still have money for vacations, eating out, etc. I'm sure I'd be even more prosperous had Ron Paul won the last election.


Quite crapping in my...nevermind, I see what you did there. Do you like Perry's announcement?
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:34:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:35:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
I am older, and my back hurts more, and I am maybe a bit fatter - so yeah, I think I'm worse off now than I was four years ago.

I am not sure how any of that is Obama's fault, but I am willing to give Perry the chance to improve these things!!!


I heard him promise duck entitlements for those who want them!
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:35:33 AM EDT
I happen to be better off, but my kids' future looks a hell of a lot darker.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:35:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:
The nation is worse off, but in a strange coincidence, I'm actually better off as an individual.

n=1

A lot of mu friends are better off as well. When the economy goes to shit I think a lot of companies weeded out the weak and the strong benefited.
Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:36:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy223:
HELL NO

Between Major cuts to my health benefits, and a steady stream of health issues.....Im pretty fucked. I have already sold off most of my guns just trying to keep my head above water.
I am I the same boat
got royally raped in 2005 never did fully recover financially or healthwise

Link Posted: 8/13/2011 9:37:48 AM EDT
I am glad he's running.
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