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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:24:22 AM EDT
Was out in the country this weekend to do some shooting and spent some time at the in laws. I found this behind one of the out buildings that stores hay and stuff. I have seen it before and didn't really pay attention as there are a lot of bricks, concrete, wood, and whatnot that was tossed behind the buildings over the years and it's usually pretty overgrown. I was digging through the mess to find some weathered wood for a project and saw this. In laws do not know where it is from. Property was my wife's grandfather's and they have passed. I can't quite tell what is says, but it looks like B Zarthman 1880. It looks like there is something in the upper left too. Any ideas? How can I clean off the moss without damaging the stone? It looks to be limestone that has been cut (there is a lot of it used around here).
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:26:10 AM EDT
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Property marker?
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:28:20 AM EDT
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Wet it with water and see if the letters contrast better.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:29:54 AM EDT
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Property marker? Was that a thing? It would make sense, but I haven't ever seen any others. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:31:27 AM EDT
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Was that a thing? It would make sense, but I haven't ever seen any others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Property marker? Was that a thing? It would make sense, but I haven't ever seen any others. Looky here |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:31:56 AM EDT
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Was that a thing? It would make sense, but I haven't ever seen any others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Property marker? Was that a thing? It would make sense, but I haven't ever seen any others. The farther east you go the stranger (but logical for the times) things get. Out west here things are much more modern due to late arrival of populations. The east coast has some REAL strange oddities. Kansas is kind of in the middle of all that. 
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:32:10 AM EDT
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Try a pencil rubbing. Looks a lot like various old graves I've found in the woods before. Look for a foot-stone?
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:32:14 AM EDT
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Wet it with water and see if the letters contrast better. Good first step. It's been exposed to rain water for well over 100 years and a little more wont hurt. Any online references to that last name and any nearby towns? |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:32:14 AM EDT
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Wet it with water and see if the letters contrast better. I'll try that. It would be cool if it was a property marker, but I don't want to move a headstone. Honestly, I doubt that is where it originally was. I am sure her grandfather would have tossed it in the junk pile if he found it on his property. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:37:24 AM EDT
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Property marker? Was that a thing? It would make sense, but I haven't ever seen any others. Looky here Interesting. I have seen modern markers, but none like those. I am hoping to find references to the name, but none so far. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:37:37 AM EDT
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Could be a gravestone, text sounds like it, but 1880 seems late for that sort of thing in Kansas to me.
Historical society or whatnot might give you an idea regarding the surname of Zarthman. Or a property records search at your county recorders office. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:39:28 AM EDT
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Good first step. It's been exposed to rain water for well over 100 years and a little more wont hurt. Any online references to that last name and any nearby towns? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wet it with water and see if the letters contrast better. Good first step. It's been exposed to rain water for well over 100 years and a little more wont hurt. Any online references to that last name and any nearby towns? I searched, but haven't found anything. All of the birth and death records seem to start a little later that and I can't find the family name listed anywhere in the county so far. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:40:00 AM EDT
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Start digging.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:40:40 AM EDT
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I would probably pressure wash it.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:41:08 AM EDT
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I've found several unmarked Graves in the woods
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:42:35 AM EDT
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I would probably pressure wash it. Thought about trying to get a bunch of hoses together and hauling the pressure washer out, but limestone is pretty soft and I am afraid I'll gouge the rock. That and it's quite a few hoses away from water. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:43:27 AM EDT
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More likely a barn stone.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:45:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought about trying to get a bunch of hoses together and hauling the pressure washer out, but limestone is pretty soft and I am afraid I'll gouge the rock. That and it's quite a few hoses away from water. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would probably pressure wash it. Thought about trying to get a bunch of hoses together and hauling the pressure washer out, but limestone is pretty soft and I am afraid I'll gouge the rock. That and it's quite a few hoses away from water. Bucket of water and SOS pad. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:45:50 AM EDT
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a bleach solution will kill the green stuff.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:58:37 AM EDT
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I got a pre civil war grave yard behind my house. A lot of the grave stones were broken by some assholes.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:05:23 AM EDT
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Look a bit closer. There's no H in there.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:08:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: a bleach solution will kill the green stuff. Bleach and water then scrub it with a rough cloth and you should be able to read it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:09:31 AM EDT
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Look a bit closer. There's no H in there. Yeah, I mistyped. You seeing B Zartman? |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:14:13 AM EDT
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Portal marker
All hail Our new overlords |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:14:20 AM EDT
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I've found several unmarked Graves in the woods Curious how you found them,since they were unmarked. Supposedly there are a few unmarked graves out here-mostly children that died at/soon after birth.None have any markers.A few of the old timers have talked about it. Looks like an old grave marker to me too.May have been out somewhere,and someone finally just picked it up and threw it up by the barn and farmed over the area. The pencil rubbing sounds like the easiest way. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:22:39 AM EDT
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Curious how you found them,since they were unmarked. Supposedly there are a few unmarked graves out here-mostly children that died at/soon after birth.None have any markers.A few of the old timers have talked about it. Looks like an old grave marker to me too.May have been out somewhere,and someone finally just picked it up and threw it up by the barn and farmed over the area. The pencil rubbing sounds like the easiest way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've found several unmarked Graves in the woods Curious how you found them,since they were unmarked. Supposedly there are a few unmarked graves out here-mostly children that died at/soon after birth.None have any markers.A few of the old timers have talked about it. Looks like an old grave marker to me too.May have been out somewhere,and someone finally just picked it up and threw it up by the barn and farmed over the area. The pencil rubbing sounds like the easiest way. Usually multiple sets of headstones & foot-stones close together (infant/child) unmarked and lined up. Sometimes there is a marked grave in the same area. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 11:29:06 AM EDT
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It looks like an old grave marker, but it could also be from and old stone or brick building. I've seen similar stones still attached to older structures. Usually last name of owner and date of build.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:33:37 PM EDT
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