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Posted: 5/5/2004 4:13:08 AM EDT
What is the definition of a pistol vs. a rifle? How is the Bushmaster Type 97 pistol classified as a pistol but a AR with a 9" barrel is not? If the AWB is not renewed then will the rules be effected any?
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 4:32:42 AM EDT
Main Entry: pis·tol
Pronunciation: 'pis-t&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French pistole, from German, from Middle High German pischulle, from Czech píst'ala, literally, pipe, fife; akin to Czech pistet to squeak
: a handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel; broadly :


14 entries found for rifle. The first 10 are listed below.
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rifle[1,verb]rifle[2,transitive verb]rifle[3,noun]rifle[4,transitive verb]air rifleassault rifleBrowning automatic rifleEnfield rifleGarand rifleKentucky rifle

Main Entry: 3rifle
Function: noun
1 a : a shoulder weapon with a rifled bore b : a rifled artillery piece


This is what Merriam-Webster says.

Link Posted: 5/5/2004 4:55:52 AM EDT
Ok let me re-word that. How is something classified as a pistol vs. being classified as a rifle?
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 4:58:30 AM EDT
A rifle barrel must be 16 inches or longer, unless it is registered as a short barreled rifle. This has nothing to do with the '94 ban. Do a search for class II and III on google.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 5:15:28 AM EDT
It's a thing that shoots bullets and such.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 5:21:39 AM EDT
A pistol is designed to be shot reasonably well with one hand.

A rifle cannot be shot well with only one hand.

Thus, the AR-15 pistol (which I must say is a VERY cool looking firearm...)


(not mine - i forget whose it is)
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 5:47:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2004 5:58:11 AM EDT by ANGST]
27 CFR sec. 179.11 - "pistol. A weapon originally
designed, made and intended to fire a projectile
(bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one
hand, and having: a) a chamber(s) as an integral
part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s);
and b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand
at an angle to and extending below the line of the
bore(s)."



Rifle. A weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended
to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or
remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire
only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of
the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily
restored to fire a fixed cartridge.



Link Posted: 5/5/2004 7:32:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Brisk322:
A pistol is designed to be shot reasonably well with one hand.

A rifle cannot be shot well with only one hand.

Thus, the AR-15 pistol (which I must say is a VERY cool looking firearm...)

img51.photobucket.com/albums/v157/brisk322/ar15pistol.jpg
(not mine - i forget whose it is)



So if a stock was put on this gun it would be a SBR instead of a pistol? If so then this rises the question what is classified as a stock?
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:09:04 AM EDT
Pistol:

NO shoulder stock

NO forward grip(s) (detatchable magazine does not count as a 'grip') unless registerd as a NFA item

NO barrel length rules

MUST weigh less than 50 oz, not have handguards, threads, or a mag outside the grip untill 9/14/04 if it's semiauto.

CANNOT be chambered for shotgun shells unless registered under the NFA (if it has more than an 18" bbl, this does not apply, as it is a shotgun not a pistol). .410GA is a slight 'loophole', as a 'long' .45LC chamber just happens to accomidate .410 shells in some designs.

Rifle:

CAN have a stock

CAN have forward grip(s)

NO weight limit

MUST have a 16" or longer barrel, or be registered as a NFA item


Shotgun:

Same as rifle, except 18" bbl, and smooth bore.

NO detatchable magazine & pistol grip, or mag capacity over 5rds on a semi-auto untill 9/14/04
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:10:53 AM EDT
Why are you asking all of these questions.

I'll hold off from asking ignorant questions for now.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:11:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By star2323:

Originally Posted By Brisk322:
A pistol is designed to be shot reasonably well with one hand.

A rifle cannot be shot well with only one hand.

Thus, the AR-15 pistol (which I must say is a VERY cool looking firearm...)

img51.photobucket.com/albums/v157/brisk322/ar15pistol.jpg
(not mine - i forget whose it is)



So if a stock was put on this gun it would be a SBR instead of a pistol? If so then this rises the question what is classified as a stock?



Well, the CFR might define it - my guess (not having a good link to the CFR) is that a stock would be anything which would allow the gun to be braced against the shoulder (or other large body part, like the belly).

And I will defer to ANGST's quote from the CFR, as it's a better defintion of pistol vs. rifle; i.e. the shoulder-fire design.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:31:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
Why are you asking all of these questions.

I'll hold off from asking ignorant questions for now.



I just picked up my new V-53 last night from the FFL dealer (sweet gun) and I said something about how it would be nice if I could make it into a SBR (being in Iowa makes this very hard) and he said something about after the AWB ban sunsets I should be able to and also something about having it classified as a pistol. I didn't think the AWB had anything to do with the 16" barrel limit. So I'm just trying to figure out what my options are. Remember I'm in Iowa.

Thanks
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