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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:59:58 AM EDT
So, with the official R candidate gone, and the Conservative Hoffman dead even with the Democrat, is it too early to say "we told you so"?
Looks like Newt backed the wrong horse. |
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In the words of Han Solo, "Don't get cocky kid."
I thin Hoffman will probably pull this one out. But that doesn't mean we should run third party challenges to ever "R" What it does mean is that party bosses need to fucking stop it with the RINOs. And if they put forth a true RINO that is as bad as this one was, then we need to prepare to lose the seat rather than to hold it only in illusion. Elections are individual first downs in a football game. You need people who are going to vote with you when the shit's on the line to actually score. The Republican party needs to figure that shit out. |
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Quoted: What it does mean is that party bosses need to fucking stop it with the RINOs. And if they put forth a true RINO that is as bad as this one was, then we need to prepare to lose the seat rather than to hold it only in illusion. The Republican party needs to figure that shit out. Don't hold your breath. |
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Yes! If a conservative can win in New York..it is a good sign indeed.
Lets run the RINO's out one by one! |
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Republican state Assemblywoman Dierdre Scozzafava has suspended her campaign for upstate New York's 23rd Congressional seat, leaving Democratic nominee Bill Owens and Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman in the race that will conclude Tuesday. The move comes on the heels of a new poll that showed Scozzafava had fallen behind her two competitors in a race too close. The Siena College poll has Owens picking up 36 percent of the vote, while Hoffman has 35 percent. Scozzafava has 20 percent, with nine percent of voters undecided. It's a turnaround from the first Siena poll on the race in September, which had Scozzafava leading, followed by Owens and Hoffman. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/31/republican-scozzafava-suspends-new-york-congressional-campaign/ |
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Newt can pound sand and take all his RINO's with him! This |
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Hoffman should pick up 75% of her vote now. Game on, barak!
If Christie pulls it out in NJ, barak is docked. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Newt can pound sand and take all his RINO's with him! This That. |
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Wait for Newt to respond. He is trying to get up to speed, possibly for 2012.
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White House: So what? These elections mean nothing. NOTHING! Just this week administration officials were saying that THIS race would be a referendum on Obama. Now that it looks like the dems have a good shot at losing the election, I expect that they will view it as meaningless. ...and nobody in the press will hold them accountable for that. "So what you're saying is that only elections where the end result is favorable to the democrats should be viewed as a referendum on Obama while the races they lose are meaningless in the national scene, correct?" Hopefully this race sends a big fuckin' message to the Republican party: Stop nominating RINOs. We have enough democrats in office. We don't need any more. |
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Another nail in the coffin for The Old Republican Guard*. *that means you Newt. |
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Hoffman should pick up 75% of her vote now. Game on, barak! If Christie pulls it out in NJ, barak is docked. Unfortunately, I don't think that's a given. She was more liberal than the Dim in some cases. It should be very interesting. |
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Newt can pound sand and take all his RINO's with him! This That. Those |
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Thats what I dislike about the RINO them idiots would back Satan himself if he declared himself a RINO....no wonder the Rep. party is swirling in the toilet bowl...........FUCKING IDIOTS..
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There was no way she way gonna win. Dead last in polling. Staying in only risked having the Dem win, despite being a fairly conservative district.
Now it looks like a Hoffman win. Big victory for the good guys, and for Palin in particular. Hope we see this repeated all over the US in 2010; run a conservative, or we'll run one for you. |
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So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed.
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I've never understood why Newt is considered "brilliant". His books aren't amazingly breathtaking IMHO. Sure, he gathered the winning coalition in '94....but it went to his head in '98. It doesn't help that he kept divorcing and remarrying... he's on what, wife #3? He's a new Catholic....but he still thinks in the WASP mode.... a GOOD Catholic wouldn't have gone with Dede no matter how much 'support' she'd originally garnered.
You need boots on the ground, volunteers willing to donate lots of time to these campaigns and would someone point to me the legions of 'moderate' republicans who've EVER shown up for the ground game???? |
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Quoted: So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed. We'll see. This is great news for us here in NY, but the election is on Tuesday and we'll find out what happens then. |
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So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed. You would think that should be true, but this is NY. |
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Quoted: NY23 has been a REPUBLICAN district. This is hands down a CONSERVATIVE VICTORY. Both dems and repubs have seen the total shift.Quoted: Hoffman should pick up 75% of her vote now. Game on, barak! If Christie pulls it out in NJ, barak is docked. Unfortunately, I don't think that's a given. She was more liberal than the Dim in some cases. It should be very interesting. |
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Quoted: Newt can go suck cock on horseback. He SHOULD learn the only thing in the middle of the road are stripes and roadkill. |
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So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed. You would think that should be true, but this is NY. I think she really viewed herself as an Arlen Spector or Snowe in the making. She has refused to ask her supporters to support hoffman. Her statement says she's "releasing her supporters to the other candidates." Fucking bitch really was going to be a trojon horse for the lefties, and if anyone can't admit that now they need glasses. LInk: "She's releasing her support to the other two candidates..." |
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I have been getting calls from Newt G. at my house. I politely told the woman on the phone to take me off their list.
No Newt in my house.... |
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NY23 has been a REPUBLICAN district. This is hands down a CONSERVATIVE VICTORY. Both dems and repubs have seen the total shift.
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Hoffman should pick up 75% of her vote now. Game on, barak! If Christie pulls it out in NJ, barak is docked. Unfortunately, I don't think that's a given. She was more liberal than the Dim in some cases. It should be very interesting. I hope you're right, but you have to wonder about any of the supposed conservatives that were backing the Republican RINO. Just how conservative are they? I hope it's just a case of them feeling a little reluctant to vote 3rd party and now they can with a clear conscience. This would be an awesome precedent to set leading into 2010. I'm sure BHO will be looking for an upgraded teleprompter soon. His old one quit working. |
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Quoted: Geez I was going to give her credit for bailingQuoted: Quoted: So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed. You would think that should be true, but this is NY. I think she really viewed herself as an Arlen Spector or Snowe in the making. She has refused to ask her supporters to support hoffman. Her statement says she's "releasing her supporters to the other candidates." Fucking bitch really was going to be a trojon horse for the lefties, and if anyone can't admit that now they need glasses. LInk: "She's releasing her support to the other two candidates..." I was getting calls from her up to maybe Wed or Thursday, although I suppose that stuff is paid for ahead of time? |
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I'll take good news wherever it is offered, this is good news.
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In the words of Han Solo, "Don't get cocky kid." I thin Hoffman will probably pull this one out. But that doesn't mean we should run third party challenges to ever "R" What it does mean is that party bosses need to fucking stop it with the RINOs. And if they put forth a true RINO that is as bad as this one was, then we need to prepare to lose the seat rather than to hold it only in illusion. Elections are individual first downs in a football game. You need people who are going to vote with you when the shit's on the line to actually score. The Republican party needs to figure that shit out. Agreed. Obviously I hope that Hoffman wins, but the conservative party has fucked us here in NY by allowing the Republican loser in the primary to run in a 3 way race, splitting the vote. We lost a key state senate seat that way a couple years back. |
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Well I'm in the 23rd district and I'm a bit shocked.
Now I'm wondering what her motive is? -Did the right thing for the party by avoiding the split even though she had the party backing? -Scared to be the little fish jumping to the big pond? -Got nervous about the RINO hate she was receiving? It really is a topic of conversation up here that she's a lib rino. -She was riding under the radar with her liberal voting record and now it's front page news and she didn't like the attention. Who knows/Cares. Go Hoffman! |
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Yes! If a conservative can win in New York..it is a good sign indeed. Lets run the RINO's out one by one! Upstate NY is generally pretty conservative, especially when you get out of the cities. Hell, my congressional district (which includes Syracuse) had an NRA rated A congressman for over 20 years until 2008. |
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I still don't change my low opinion of the Conservative Party.
Course Hoffman better run like the wind to the Republican Party. After the next census he'll be # 1 on the list of people to get rid of in redistricting if he stays independent. |
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Geez I was going to give her credit for bailing
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So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed. You would think that should be true, but this is NY. I think she really viewed herself as an Arlen Spector or Snowe in the making. She has refused to ask her supporters to support hoffman. Her statement says she's "releasing her supporters to the other candidates." Fucking bitch really was going to be a trojon horse for the lefties, and if anyone can't admit that now they need glasses. LInk: "She's releasing her support to the other two candidates..." I was getting calls from her up to maybe Wed or Thursday, although I suppose that stuff is paid for ahead of time? She has now thrown her support to Hoffman: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/scozzafava_suspends_campaign_t.html |
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Quoted: Well I'm in the 23rd district and I'm a bit shocked. Now I'm wondering what her motive is? -Did the right thing for the party by avoiding the split even though she had the party backing? -Scared to be the little fish jumping to the big pond? -Got nervous about the RINO hate she was receiving? It really is a topic of conversation up here that she's a lib rino. -She was riding under the radar with her liberal voting record and now it's front page news and she didn't like the attention. Who knows/Cares. Go Hoffman! I would guess some of the national R talked to the local guys and told them to tell her to call it a day. |
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Geez I was going to give her credit for bailing
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So if the RINO had 20%, and Hoffman had 35%, and the RINO is now out... does that mean that Hoffman now has 55% of the vote now? Or at least something approaching that? I'd love to see a new poll on this now that things have changed. You would think that should be true, but this is NY. I think she really viewed herself as an Arlen Spector or Snowe in the making. She has refused to ask her supporters to support hoffman. Her statement says she's "releasing her supporters to the other candidates." Fucking bitch really was going to be a trojon horse for the lefties, and if anyone can't admit that now they need glasses. LInk: "She's releasing her support to the other two candidates..." I was getting calls from her up to maybe Wed or Thursday, although I suppose that stuff is paid for ahead of time? She has now thrown her support to Hoffman: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/scozzafava_suspends_campaign_t.html I see only a single news report saying she's throwing support to hoffman. Her camp's actual statement, which I linked, says she's releasing to "two other candidates." It would be nice to see the news article's factual support for their assertion. It may be that a reporter just assumed that. |
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I sent Hoffman $20. You should to. Since my incumbants are not going anywhere I am supporting in my small way out state conservatives that can win.
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I see a small break in the clouds. This country may survive afterall.
Micheal Steel should quit and Newt should stfu. The people have spoken and obviously don't want RINOs. |
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Quoted: Quoted: She has now thrown her support to Hoffman: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/scozzafava_suspends_campaign_t.html I see only a single news report saying she's throwing support to hoffman. Her camp's actual statement, which I linked, says she's releasing to "two other candidates." It would be nice to see the news article's factual support for their assertion. It may be that a reporter just assumed that. her campaign manager told the paper that (or that's what the article says) |
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In the words of Han Solo, "Don't get cocky kid." I thin Hoffman will probably pull this one out. But that doesn't mean we should run third party challenges to ever "R" What it does mean is that party bosses need to fucking stop it with the RINOs. And if they put forth a true RINO that is as bad as this one was, then we need to prepare to lose the seat rather than to hold it only in illusion. Elections are individual first downs in a football game. You need people who are going to vote with you when the shit's on the line to actually score. The Republican party needs to figure that shit out. I think this would be a completely different story if Scozzafava had actually been elected to the seat rather than appointed. I don't consider it a third party challenge. |
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She has now thrown her support to Hoffman: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/scozzafava_suspends_campaign_t.html I see only a single news report saying she's throwing support to hoffman. Her camp's actual statement, which I linked, says she's releasing to "two other candidates." It would be nice to see the news article's factual support for their assertion. It may be that a reporter just assumed that. her campaign manager told the paper that (or that's what the article says) I'm clicking around to try to get to the bottom of this. The National Republican Committee has for sure switched ITS support at least to Hoffman. (Welcome to the party boys, but you're a little late.) But HER website still contains her statement in which she does not come out for Hoffman, and says those who have supported her can transfer their support as they see fit. http://www.dedeforcongress.com/news/read.aspx?id=73 |
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Newt can pound sand and take all his RINO's with him! |
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Newt can pound sand and take all his RINO's with him! Yep. I instantly lose respect for anyone that supports Newt. |
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