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Posted: 10/3/2005 4:46:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:51:31 PM EDT

[David Kopel, October 3, 2005 at 6:20pm] 4 Trackbacks / Possibly More Trackbacks
Miers on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms: The New Republic's fine &c blog points to a 1992 article she wrote for the Texas Lawyer. In the article, she points to three infamous multiple homicides in Texas: the 1966 Texas Tower Shooting, in which a man climbed the clock tower at the University of Texas, and shot 14 people. (He was finally stopped when two policemen and a civilian rushed the building.) The second was the 1991 Killeen massacre, where a man entered a Luby's Cafeteria, and methodically slaughtered unarmed 23 people. (The incident played a major role in Texas rescinding its ban on carrying concealed handguns, and enacting a Shall Issue permit law.) The third incident in Miers' article had taken place recently; a man murdered two judges and two lawyers in a Fort Worth courthouse.

"How does a free society prevent" such crimes, she asked. She then explained:

The same liberties that ensure a free society make the innocent vulnerable to those who prevent rights and privileges and commit senseless and cruel acts. Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble, freedom of liberties, access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance. We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs.
Miers, however, rejected the notion that "precious liberties", including "the right to bear arms," should be sacrificed in the name of crime prevention. Quite obviously, she was referring to the "right to bear arms" as an individual right.

It's technically possible that she was referring only to the Texas Constitutional arms right, which clearly is individual, rather than to the Second Amendment. However, the context of the quote does not seem so constricted, and even to describe the Texas right a precious liberty says a good deal about Ms. Miers' thinking.

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:51:55 PM EDT

How does a free society prevent" such crimes, she asked. She then explained:

The same liberties that ensure a free society make the innocent vulnerable to those who prevent rights and privileges and commit senseless and cruel acts. Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble, freedom of liberties, access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance. We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs.
Miers, however, rejected the notion that "precious liberties", including "the right to bear arms," should be sacrificed in the name of crime prevention. Quite obviously, she was referring to the "right to bear arms" as an individual right.


Hmmmm, indeed.....
Maybe I judged too quick.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 4:53:32 PM EDT
looks like a good rkba stance to me
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:06:50 PM EDT
Were her comments relevant to the 2A, or was she referring to the Texas State Constitution? Either way, she sounds OK to me in light of this post.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:10:20 PM EDT
Interesting...Very Interesting.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:12:03 PM EDT
I ain't blowing her any kisses till I see her SCOTUS rulings.

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:26:21 PM EDT
Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble, freedom of liberties, access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance. We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs.


'Nuff said!

Sounds like a Pro-2nd statement, unless my reading comprehension-fu is weak.

HS1 (didn't think so)
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:29:36 PM EDT
Oh pleeeease, pretty pleeeease, let it be true!
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:32:52 PM EDT
yeah this is the first indication that we might be alright on this one. I am not holding my breath but I honestly don't give a shit about how she votes on anything else as long as she holds that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual one and that she won't punish me for the actions of criminals, miscreants and democrats.

watching this one closely...
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:37:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 5:45:36 PM EDT
Well that's sounding alittle better....now if the Supremes would just hear one
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:04:00 PM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:07:50 PM EDT
I have faith in GW's pick, he hasn't failed me yet.

Besides, anyone from Texas who attends church regularly can't lean any direction but right.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:08:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JHMC79:
I have faith in GW's pick, he hasn't failed me yet.

Besides, anyone from Texas who attends church regularly can't lean any direction but right.



Jesse Jackson is a "minister."

Church don't guarantee anything.

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:13:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:
Jesse Jackson is a "minister."




.......I'm not even a christian and I think that's funny!!!!!!!! I'll bet that left a bad taste in your mouth just joking about it.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:15:00 PM EDT
Perhaps I judged too quickly as well. I don't expect much given GWB's unabashed socialism, but perhaps this one could turn out okay.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:18:25 PM EDT
Like I said, just wait and see.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:19:54 PM EDT
After a statement like that, I'll bet Polosie, Finestien, and Boxter are fit to be tied.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:21:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/3/2005 6:22:08 PM EDT by sterling18]
Meirs, if the story is true.

You got more stones than all of the SOTUS combined.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:22:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By JHMC79:
I have faith in GW's pick, he hasn't failed me yet.

Besides, anyone from Texas who attends church regularly can't lean any direction but right.



Jesse Jackson is a "minister."

Church don't guarantee anything.




Good point, but then again Jackson isn't from Texas either.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:22:55 PM EDT
So at this point we know way more about her stance on the 2dn then we did on Roberts, yet I think Roberts is going to be a very good choice for the RKBA crowd. So is she. She's got my support on this alone. It will be interesting to see what the dems do when this comes up in the hearings. Biden and the other freedom haters should be shitting themselves silly over this.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:23:58 PM EDT
OK I feel a bit better
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:25:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By JHMC79:
I have faith in GW's pick, he hasn't failed me yet.

Besides, anyone from Texas who attends church regularly can't lean any direction but right.



Jesse Jackson is a "minister."

Church don't guarantee anything.




Don't forget Reverend Al Sharpton, or Minister Louis Farakhan...
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:31:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By StonerStudent:

Originally Posted By garandman:
Jesse Jackson is a "minister."




.......I'm not even a christian and I think that's funny!!!!!!!! I'll bet that left a bad taste in your mouth just joking about it.



Heck, no.

I'm WELL aware of what's coming out of many churches, and those who claim to be "Christians."

In fact, the MOST anti-religious anti Christian here isnt aware of HALF the crap I know of in many churches.

WHich is NO way invalidates true Christianity.

The simple fact that this nominee attends church is a moot point. Bill Clinton attended frequently and carried a personal defense sized Bible as well.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:34:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By garandman:
[Jesse Jackson is a "minister."

Church don't guarantee anything.




Don't forget Reverend Al Sharpton, or Minister Louis Farakhan...





Allow me to rephrase my first post on this matter.

Anyone who attends a real church i.e. non-political agenda pushing/non-racism mongering social club.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 6:36:40 PM EDT
Awwwwww come on guys, ain't the sky still falling here?!!!

It's just too easy to turn optomistic now!

My cup is still half empty...

(at least after I get done reading a few of these GD threads )
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