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Posted: 5/4/2004 6:51:36 AM EDT
At dinner last night I noticed that my 14 year old daughter was wearing my Bushmaster shirt. She leaves for school usually right before I wake up. Now I asked her about this and she said she liked the shirt and looks good in black. Apparently people were pointing out to teachers all day long that she had a gun on the back of her shirt, even the principle. Noone said anything to her about it. Apparently we have the school now trained that any time they harras our kids over petty things they will get an inordinate amount of crap from us in return. Last time was when they sent her home for wearing a sleevless blouse, very tasteful. I sent the note back to the principle with my lawyers business card should he have anything further to say about the matter. We heard nothing more about it. See, even liberal teachers can learn and be taught.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 6:55:01 AM EDT
when the clothing Nazis were out in school, I would always wear stuff to piss em off. I went to an ultra liberal highschool so it wasnt hard. I loved wearing my tasty animals t-shirt on "Animal rights day," my "Nuke the World" shirt on earth day, or my "Celebrate Diversity" (u know the one I am talking about ) on the "Columbine rememberance day.

PC aint for me
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:02:23 AM EDT
The mere mention of lawyers, lawsuit, aclu, etc makes even the most ardent clothes nazi to fall apart like a cheap suit.

Schools hate publicity, and vampire fanged lawyers worse.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:03:30 AM EDT
I wore an AR15.com shirt to the Texas Capitol last year
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:17:28 AM EDT
With every gun show I attend, I gotta buy the Mrs. a new gun t-shirt. Well my eldest daughter takes notice and now, the next one I attend I'll be forced to buy two shirts. While she hasn't started school yet (she begins this fall), I figure i'll start her and the school system off right from the get-go.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:19:20 AM EDT
This from "Law and Order" Shotar?

You've got to be kidding.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:28:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew:
The mere mention of lawyers, lawsuit, aclu, etc makes even the most ardent clothes nazi to fall apart like a cheap suit.

Schools hate publicity, and vampire fanged lawyers worse.



www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel200401080929.asp

Newsom Wins One
A First and Second victory.



First Amendment rights and Second Amendment values won a big victory, and political correctness suffered a harsh defeat, last month in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. In the case of Newsom v. Albermarle County School Board the Fourth Circuit ruled 3-0 in favor of a public-school student's First Amendment right to wear a shirt from an NRA shooting-sports camp. The unanimous panel rejected the school's preposterous argument that banning the shirt was necessary for school safety...
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:47:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
This from "Law and Order" Shotar?

You've got to be kidding.



My bushmaster is all about law and order, and there is no law that orders her not to wear a Tshirt without offensive slogans, foul language, or nudity. Nowhere is there a law that prevents her from wearing an image of sporting goods and rattle snakes.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 7:50:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/4/2004 7:51:46 AM EDT by Thunderbolt]
I never wear any t-shirts with gun related pictures or words for the same reason I dont put any firearms related bumper stickers on my car, I dont want to draw attention or get harrassed or searched.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:10:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/4/2004 8:10:20 AM EDT by DoubleFeed]

Originally Posted By shotar:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
This from "Law and Order" Shotar?

You've got to be kidding.



My bushmaster is all about law and order, and there is no law that orders her not to wear a Tshirt without offensive slogans, foul language, or nudity. Nowhere is there a law that prevents her from wearing an image of sporting goods and rattle snakesnature scenes.

Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:12:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:
My bushmaster is all about law and order, and there is no law that orders her not to wear a Tshirt without offensive slogans, foul language, or nudity. Nowhere is there a law that prevents her from wearing an image of sporting goods and rattle snakes.


You might scare the kiddies, though. As you know, it's all about "The Children."
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:14:25 AM EDT
She should have been expelled for not wearing a COLT shirt!
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:18:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:
Apparently people were pointing out to teachers all day long that she had a gun on the back of her shirt, even the principle. Noone said anything to her about it.



Is this our local public school district? I'm surprised that no one called the SWAT Team.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:26:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SWS:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Apparently people were pointing out to teachers all day long that she had a gun on the back of her shirt, even the principle. Noone said anything to her about it.



Is this our local public school district? I'm surprised that no one called the SWAT Team.



The very same one. Hey we got a gunshop in the city now, our retail stores don't put no CCW signs, while those in surrounding communities do. We are becoming a small island of reason in a sea of liberalism.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:28:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SWS:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Apparently people were pointing out to teachers all day long that she had a gun on the back of her shirt, even the principle. Noone said anything to her about it.



Is this our local public school district? I'm surprised that no one called the SWAT Team. hinking.gif



You got that right!
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:40:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
She should have been expelled for not wearing a COLT shirt!



Why? He wouldn't want the shirt coming apart during the day.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:41:32 AM EDT
i wonder if it would have been the same if a boy had worn it?
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:45:20 AM EDT
Good for you pal.

Here I'm afraid the no tolerance rule would have had my son sent home if not suspended. They're not even allowed to draw a gun on a piece of paper.

Tj
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:50:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By markm:
She should have been expelled for not wearing a COLT shirt!



Why? He wouldn't want the shirt coming apart during the day.



The print on the shirt would be in spec and aligned, however.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 8:52:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TomJefferson:
Good for you pal.

Here I'm afraid the no tolerance rule would have had my son sent home if not suspended. They're not even allowed to draw a gun on a piece of paper.


You have got to be kidding.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 9:23:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/4/2004 9:26:37 AM EDT by jimb100]

Originally Posted By shotar:
At dinner last night I noticed that my 14 year old daughter was wearing my Bushmaster shirt. She leaves for school usually right before I wake up. Now I asked her about this and she said she liked the shirt and looks good in black. Apparently people were pointing out to teachers all day long that she had a gun on the back of her shirt, even the principle. Noone said anything to her about it. Apparently we have the school now trained that any time they harras our kids over petty things they will get an inordinate amount of crap from us in return. Last time was when they sent her home for wearing a sleevless blouse, very tasteful. I sent the note back to the principle with my lawyers business card should he have anything further to say about the matter. We heard nothing more about it. See, even liberal teachers can learn and be taught.



Not for nothing, but this is what you said in the thread about the kid who got kicked out of the Bush rally for his clothes.

"I have a different take on this. I fully support your son's right to dress however he wants. That said, being in the presence of the President is an honor. When one is sharing this honor, it is customary to go a little beyond if possible in ones appearence. In general, if you dress like a rag bag, you will be treated like a rag bag. That is the way things are. If you want to blame anyone, blame yourself at least a little for not teaching him that people that dress like ghetto trash, will be treated like ghetto trash. I see it every day. Fact is I do not support your son's appearence in this instance. We recently went through this with my wifes youngest brother. I told him in no uncertain terms that he looked like a retard and if he expected to get a job he needed to dress like a human. An earlier poster is correct, you are judged by how you present yourself and I honestly don't blame the Secret Service one bit. Their job is to reduce potential threats and they did. While appearences certainly can be deceiving on occaision, they usually are not. I would think at least business casual would be appropriate to see the President. Last time, I wore a suit. "

So being in a 10,000 person group at a Bush rally and dressing like a high school kid is out of line but wearing gun t-shirts to school is appropriate. I'd would like to hear how you reconcile the two positions.

Also, would it be ok to wear a gun t-shirt to a Bush rally? Do you think you'd get thrown out for wearing it? But its ok to wear to school?

Link Posted: 5/4/2004 9:35:51 AM EDT
If you realize the deplorable state of the public school system, and that it has become a liberal indoctrination machine, my question is why are you not home schooling your daughter? If you would not let your daughter hangout with drug dealers for 5 hours a day, then why are you letting other people, with other agendas, fill her mind with their version of knowledge? If you think, “my daughter is different” I think you are fooling yourself.

Too many other priorities?
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 9:36:50 AM EDT
Because the President of the United States was not speaking at the Junior high school. Second, because its damned funny, and third because there is no specific rule against it, and the one that they recently had to debate was tabled because of the afformentioned court descision. Fourth because it frosts the left wing liberal social studies teacher who had to approve her history project studying the gattling gun and machine guns. Now how is it different, well they are differnt venues. The young men in question may well have been just fine in school, but not to see the President. All things in their own place. BTW what do you have against guns, do you think children should not be exposed to firearms information in school? Should it be hidden from them? Now if they were meeting the President for a day of hunting on his crawford ranch, then it might be appropriate to wear clothing for the occaision. See, all things in their own place.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:02:14 AM EDT
Just out of curiosity, do you respect the office of the president in general, or just the actual president in office?
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:06:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Thunderbolt:
I never wear any t-shirts with gun related pictures or words for the same reason I dont put any firearms related bumper stickers on my car, I dont want to draw attention or get harrassed or searched.



And I thought I was a Milquetoast man, I hope you are kidding.

The shirts I wear and bumperstickers are the ones that only fellow gunowners know about, like H&K shirts.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:08:39 AM EDT
The office in general and this President in particular, but my feelings would be the same regardless of who was in that office. If it is important enough to go, its important enough to dress for the occaision. Now, if these kids want to be pimpin around their friends, thats fine with me, but one should always dress for the occaision and the venue.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:09:37 AM EDT
The office in general and this President in particular, but my feelings would be the same regardless of who was in that office. If it is important enough to go, its important enough to dress for the occaision. Now, if these kids want to be pimpin around their friends, thats fine with me, but one should always dress for the occaision and the venue. A Tshirt and jeans are not out of place at school. They most certainly would be out of place at our country club. As would low rider pants that allow a clear view of the plumber effect.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:10:10 AM EDT
I liked wearing un-PC shirts to high school.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:12:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MadProfessor:
I liked wearing un-PC shirts to high school.



And that was my point. One shirt was being UNpc in an everyday situation, the other is being disrespectful in a different situation. By the same token I would view my daughters choice of shirts as inappropriate in many settings, but not this one.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:15:23 AM EDT
I wish I was back in HS, with my current imporved asshole attitude.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:51:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 10:56:13 AM EDT
Send her a cavarms shirt and she'll wear it, but its gotta have sleeves. They are not allowed to wear sleevless tops in school. That would be inappropriate.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 12:32:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/4/2004 12:34:48 PM EDT by Rip_Roarin_Wacko]

Originally Posted By Thunderbolt:
I never wear any t-shirts with gun related pictures or words for the same reason I dont put any firearms related bumper stickers on my car, I dont want to draw attention or get harrassed or searched.



What a pussy. They have you right where they want you. In the corner whimpering "Please don't hurt me."
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 12:40:36 PM EDT
I've got an 11"x14.5" NRA Life Member sticker on my rear window. That's about as subtle as I get.
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 12:41:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By TomJefferson:
Good for you pal.

Here I'm afraid the no tolerance rule would have had my son sent home if not suspended. They're not even allowed to draw a gun on a piece of paper.


You have got to be kidding.



I wish I was pal. BTK can't even wear his Gunstock or Bushmaster shirts to school. Here it's more paranoidism than liberalism I think.

Too many kids here actually own firearms. They're not complaigning about that yet.

Tj
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 2:01:11 PM EDT
Jeez, GarryOwen!!! She's not even color coodinated! Get her some urban gray handguards, too. You can't let her run around in an unmatched outfit. What kinda Dad are you???
Link Posted: 5/4/2004 2:02:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:
At dinner last night I noticed that my 14 year old daughter was wearing my Bushmaster shirt. She leaves for school usually right before I wake up. Now I asked her about this and she said she liked the shirt and looks good in black. Apparently people were pointing out to teachers all day long that she had a gun on the back of her shirt, even the principle. Noone said anything to her about it. Apparently we have the school now trained that any time they harras our kids over petty things they will get an inordinate amount of crap from us in return. Last time was when they sent her home for wearing a sleevless blouse, very tasteful. I sent the note back to the principle with my lawyers business card should he have anything further to say about the matter. We heard nothing more about it. See, even liberal teachers can learn and be taught.



WHAT A BLACK T SHIRT WITH A GUN TO SCHOOL!!??? SHE MUST BE A GANGSTER!!

(see thread about someones son being kicked out of bush rally for wearing a hoody)
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