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Posted: 6/18/2014 2:12:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 2:15:54 AM EST by MSC]
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/man-gets-traffic-ticket-for-running-stop-sign-when-video-shows-he-clearly-stopped-203436653.html

Motorist gets ticket for running stop sign...

"Mr. Kratofil happened to have a dashboard camera recording as he was driving through Jefferson Hills. In the video, you can see that he comes to a complete stop."

And of course the Chief defends his officers.

Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:15:41 AM EST
technically…the law says you stop at the stop sign, you move forward, stop again, until you can see that the intersection is clear and then you go.
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Perhaps a nit-picky ticket, but still, OP, your title is a little dramatic.


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Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:17:01 AM EST
FINALLY, Someone found the ONE bad cop out there!
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:18:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tc2k11:

Perhaps a nit-picky ticket, but still, OP, your title is a little dramatic.

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Originally Posted By tc2k11:
technically…the law says you stop at the stop sign, you move forward, stop again, until you can see that the intersection is clear and then you go.

Perhaps a nit-picky ticket, but still, OP, your title is a little dramatic.

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If I wanted to be dramatic, I could have called him something other than a liar.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:21:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 2:41:29 AM EST by fxntime]
Originally Posted By MSC:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/man-gets-traffic-ticket-for-running-stop-sign-when-video-shows-he-clearly-stopped-203436653.html

Motorist gets ticket for running stop sign...

"Mr. Kratofil happened to have a dashboard camera recording as he was driving through Jefferson Hills. In the video, you can see that he comes to a complete stop."

And of course the Chief defends his officers.

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Chief is as big an asshole as the ticket writing cop is. One only stops and moves forward to stop again if the intersection can't be seen clearly from the white line or the stop sign position.

But traffic tickets are certainly not revenue enhancement..........no way, no how. This isn't even a close call as far as did he stop or not.

I'd put the ticket writer and his partner on bicycles for a few months as parking mama's.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:22:00 AM EST
Isolated incident.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:38:39 AM EST
Cop should've had him pick up some cans.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:47:56 AM EST
That town is markedly free of stray cans.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:57:23 AM EST
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:58:39 AM EST
The STOP sign is the only octagon-shaped (8-sided) sign you see on the highway. At an intersection with a STOP sign, you must stop completely, check for pedestrians and cross traffic to clear the intersection before you go again. Slowing down without coming to a full stop is illegal.
When you see a crosswalk or a stop line, stop before the front of your vehicle reaches the first painted line. If you cannot see traffic, yield to any pedestrians and then carefully pull forward past the line until you can see clearly. Check for traffic and pedestrians and then go ahead when the intersection is clear.
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From the PA Driver's Manual. I don't see anything about stopping twice.

Sounds like there's a few liars in that department.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:03:01 AM EST
bad cop?

unpossible
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:03:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bafordman:


From the PA Driver's Manual. I don't see anything about stopping twice.

Sounds like there's a few liars in that department.
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Originally Posted By bafordman:
The STOP sign is the only octagon-shaped (8-sided) sign you see on the highway. At an intersection with a STOP sign, you must stop completely, check for pedestrians and cross traffic to clear the intersection before you go again. Slowing down without coming to a full stop is illegal.
When you see a crosswalk or a stop line, stop before the front of your vehicle reaches the first painted line. If you cannot see traffic, yield to any pedestrians and then carefully pull forward past the line until you can see clearly. Check for traffic and pedestrians and then go ahead when the intersection is clear.


From the PA Driver's Manual. I don't see anything about stopping twice.

Sounds like there's a few liars in that department.


Sure are...not to mention that it is a 3-way stop. He could clearly see that there wasn't anyone at the left side stop sign to compete with in the intersection.
Chicken shit police dept as usual.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:07:39 AM EST
I really need to get a dash cam. Been saying that for over a year. Haven't bought one yet.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:08:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?
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That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:12:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
I really need to get a dash cam. Been saying that for over a year. Haven't bought one yet.
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Police officers nightmare. Can you imagine. Shucks there is a very long list of police who have been fired, sued, and jailed because of their behavior in front of their own dash cams.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:15:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?
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Originally Posted By MSC:


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.
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Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:23:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?
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Officer?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:24:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tc2k11:

Perhaps a nit-picky ticket, but still, OP, your title is a little dramatic.

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Originally Posted By tc2k11:
technically…the law says you stop at the stop sign, you move forward, stop again, until you can see that the intersection is clear and then you go.

Perhaps a nit-picky ticket, but still, OP, your title is a little dramatic.

http://buzzingbride.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/drama-llama.jpg
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no he is correct. That cop is a liar.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:25:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 3:27:09 AM EST by Disintegr8or]
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.


Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.


Show some respect.


Get over yourself.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:25:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.




Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:26:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 3:28:07 AM EST by MSC]
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.


If anyone wants to be stupid enough to attack the messenger, well you know.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:28:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 3:43:23 AM EST by mototard]
That's a screwed up intersection. I didn't see any stop bars. Also that stop sign is positioned to far away from the intersection.

Good withdrawal, he clearly stopped. I wonder if the cop was positioned so he could see the intersection and not the sign?
Still shouldn't be writing citations your not 110% sure it happened.

Bad cop, no donut.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:32:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 3:33:17 AM EST by triburst1]
Cop is clearly a liar.

If he would lie to write a traffic ticket, what else would he lie about?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 3:41:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.


Dude, what are you talking about? Who is due respect that he isn't giving it to? The lying police officers and police chief?
Not sure where you're coming from and not sure where you're going with this, but... WAT?.....
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.


I would figure by age 60, one would have learned proper spelling use of the correct words.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:01:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:

Show some respect.
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Respect is earned. Unless you are a power hungry/corrupt cop then you demand people "respect your authority". hmmm
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:03:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Bullshit ticket.
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Show some respect.




Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:08:08 AM EST
Asshole cop aside, why is the stop sign so far back from the intersection?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:09:45 AM EST
dafuq is going on in this thread?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:10:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GrandfatherCoyote:


Show some respect.

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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Bullshit ticket.


Show some respect.

Watch out. He may respect the hell out of you.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:11:11 AM EST
SHOW DICK SOME RESPECT !!!!
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Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:16:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


Chief is as big an asshole as the ticket writing cop is. One only stops and moves forward to stop again if the intersection can't be seen clearly from the white line or the stop sign position.

But traffic tickets are certainly not revenue enhancement..........no way, no how. This isn't even a close call as far as did he stop or not.

I'd put the ticket writer and his partner on bicycles for a few months as parking mama's.
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By MSC:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/man-gets-traffic-ticket-for-running-stop-sign-when-video-shows-he-clearly-stopped-203436653.html

Motorist gets ticket for running stop sign...

"Mr. Kratofil happened to have a dashboard camera recording as he was driving through Jefferson Hills. In the video, you can see that he comes to a complete stop."

And of course the Chief defends his officers.



Chief is as big an asshole as the ticket writing cop is. One only stops and moves forward to stop again if the intersection can't be seen clearly from the white line or the stop sign position.

But traffic tickets are certainly not revenue enhancement..........no way, no how. This isn't even a close call as far as did he stop or not.

I'd put the ticket writer and his partner on bicycles for a few months as parking mama's.


Instead of going to the media he should have went to court, let the cop commit perjury and then gone to the media and civil court if the cop wasn't at least fired. Civil court wouldn't get any money for such a minor thing but it would create a court record of his actions. If I ever win the lotto I'd create a not for profit who's sole goal was to take cases like these that just aren't worth it monetarily but are worth it to create a record of abuses.

A cop that will lie just for a traffic ticket will certainly lie when the stakes are higher.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:16:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
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Cop says guy ran a stop sign.
Guy has video proof he didn't.
Police chief throws out the ticket but defends lying officer anyways.
OP apparently needs to respect someone, though it isn't clear who he should respect or what they've done to earn it.
Everyone is confused by the "show some respect" comment.
Site staff is told to show respect.
Bama grabs the ban hammer, a 6-pack, and starts heading towards the thread. Pretty sure he's got wood.
Gotguns summarizes thread.


Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:20:02 AM EST
best $350 I ever spent.
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OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.


Sarcasm?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:22:27 AM EST


Hahaha Jefferson Hills
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Bullshit ticket.
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Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:32:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By MSC:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/man-gets-traffic-ticket-for-running-stop-sign-when-video-shows-he-clearly-stopped-203436653.html

Motorist gets ticket for running stop sign...

"Mr. Kratofil happened to have a dashboard camera recording as he was driving through Jefferson Hills. In the video, you can see that he comes to a complete stop."

And of course the Chief defends his officers.

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I have dash cams in both of my vehicles. They both have inferred and motion detection for when you are parked. I got them on Amazon for $145.00 each. Well worth it.
Road Mate Dash Cam
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:34:32 AM EST
This is a weird thread. What the hell are people angry at the OP for?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:35:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2014 5:20:10 AM EST by Admiral_Crunch]
Well, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a G1W. Gets good reviews, and for $45, it's worth trying out.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:37:43 AM EST
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Asshole cop aside, why is the stop sign so far back from the intersection?
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I was wondering the same thing. There is a lot of stop signs like that in my area.
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It's also twisted sideways. Makes it look like a stop sign for a side road coming in.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:39:21 AM EST
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Nice cam. Where did you get it?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:39:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.
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Originally Posted By Sdsquad1:
Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By MONGO45:
So OP..... by how many pushups did you fail the pre-qual...?


That's really funny.

Actually I'm retired now, but for a career, I went for money instead of being a cop.

But at 56 years of age, I am in much better shape than many police officers I see that are much younger than me.



OP your a tad defensive so I see some issues you are having. At 60 I'm in better shape then many cops as well. Like I said before, you have issues.

Show some respect.


Show some respect? Are you being serious or are you just a really shitty comedian?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:41:56 AM EST
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This is a weird thread. What the hell are people angry at the OP for?
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Wednesday isn't the regular day for outing bad cops. Butthurt is in abundance.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:43:13 AM EST
I saw a complete stop.............Cop is wrong, his boss is wrong
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